Chronocidal Posted June 14, 2009 Posted June 14, 2009 Yeah, there's a lot of moving parts. I made an F-14 for MS Flight Sim, and animating the main landing gear was a nightmare. Quote
Fatalist Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) I'm hearing that the JSI F-14 is being displayed at the SDCC. So where are the pics?!?! Get to it people! Edited July 24, 2009 by Fatalist Quote
sharky Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 (edited) I'm hearing that the JSI F-14 is being displayed at the SDCC. So where are the pics?!?! Get to it people! http://www.fighting118th.com/2009/07/23/sd...118-scale-f-14/ Edit: Never mind. I just noticed that you had the same link in your post. If you already had a good link to pics why are you asking? Edited July 24, 2009 by sharky Quote
Fatalist Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Why ask why? Sit back, enjoy. With a bunch of MW members actually being at SDCC, I figured there would be more and better pics. Quote
pcsguy88 Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 (edited) Why ask why? Sit back, enjoy. With a bunch of MW members actually being at SDCC, I figured there would be more and better pics. We are talking with Merit and seeing if we can play with the F-14 more. They like the response we are getting on our website and might let us open the wings, etc for more pics. Stay tuned, NSA is networking as much as possible. Thanks Fatalist and Sharky for linking our site. It shows us we are doing something correctly. Ron Edited July 25, 2009 by pcsguy88 Quote
pcsguy88 Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 NSA went back for more: http://www.fighting118th.com/2009/07/24/sd...national-booth/ Quote
David Hingtgen Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 Gah, I might be too late, but just in case: Ask if the lower speedbrakes open too! Having just the upper one open is wrong---it'd be like having just the nosegear retractable, and not ALL the landing gear. F-14s have 3 speedbrakes, not 1--and the pilot can't pick which to deploy---they all go or none do. Also please point out that physically, it's a 1995+ F-14A, and wholly unsuitable for any 1970's or 1980's paint scheme. Quote
pcsguy88 Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 (edited) Gah, I might be too late, but just in case: Ask if the lower speedbrakes open too! Having just the upper one open is wrong---it'd be like having just the nosegear retractable, and not ALL the landing gear. F-14s have 3 speedbrakes, not 1--and the pilot can't pick which to deploy---they all go or none do. Also please point out that physically, it's a 1995+ F-14A, and wholly unsuitable for any 1970's or 1980's paint scheme. NSA plans on stroking JSI and Merit some more tomorrow. I really hope he gets to handle it and see how well the wings work. I know they have been protective over it since the landing gear collapsed at Toyfair. I passed your question on to him. Edited July 25, 2009 by pcsguy88 Quote
one_klump Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 I may be wrong, but I was under the assumption that the retractable canards were removed in the production version of the F-14A? Quote
David Hingtgen Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 They were disabled on the A model, not removed. And it was years after service entry when it happened. Only later versions physically lack them. Still, it is pointless for them to be on this model, as they were permanently locked shut by the era this mold depicts. They should be nothing more than an engraved line, not a separate part (which leads to gaps and seams). Quote
David Hingtgen Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 Just got an answer to my lower airbrake question: http://www.fighting118th.com/wp-content/up...7/newf14-10.jpg Still, I'm most curious about the paint scheme, as all the popular/famous ones will not work on this mold, honestly. (I'd snag the Black Knights' anniversary scheme maybe, but that's about it for a late-era A model) Quote
pcsguy88 Posted July 27, 2009 Posted July 27, 2009 Just got an answer to my lower airbrake question: http://www.fighting118th.com/wp-content/up...7/newf14-10.jpg Still, I'm most curious about the paint scheme, as all the popular/famous ones will not work on this mold, honestly. (I'd snag the Black Knights' anniversary scheme maybe, but that's about it for a late-era A model) Sorry I wasn't around to post the pics of the lower airbrakes, but you guys found them. Merit is giving us review samples of JSI's products since they liked our review style and our man NSA is a hell of a networker. Hopefully we will have a completed F-14 before they hit retail to help those of you contemplating this $230 bird make an educated decision. Keep checking back, we will be sending someone to Chicago in August to get pics of the painted version if Merit has it by then. Jolly Rogers is still the speculated scheme of the first bird, but nobody knows if it will be high or low visibility. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted July 27, 2009 Posted July 27, 2009 That model is incorrect for *any* Jolly Rogers scheme. Though which scheme could determine "totally wrong" vs "slightly wrong". (For $230, I'd demand either "perfect" or "only very, very, slightly wrong") Quote
Agent-GHQ Posted July 27, 2009 Posted July 27, 2009 Saw this beast at the SDCC. I'm very impressed with the details and its 1/18 scale. Glad they are using real rubber tires! Quote
Fatalist Posted August 7, 2009 Posted August 7, 2009 BadCat and a few other online retailers are now taking pre-orders for the F-14. Average price is $219 w/ $30 (roughly) shipping in October. Hasn't been solidly confirmed yet whether it will be the low vis or high vis Jolly Rogers scheme. Regardless, I think I can safely say....... FINALLY!!!!!!!!!! Quote
EXO Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 http://www.poeghostal.com/2009/08/pauls-pe...s-is-a-jet.html Quote
Valkyrie addict Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Ok, I'm sold with this, what's a good store to pre-order this? Quote
Knight26 Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 I'm holding out for the Su-30, but I love the look of that toy. Though if we are moving next year I might hold off, see what the job front holds. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 Oh yeah, BTW, with the most recent announcements of what scheme they'll do, the mold is "totally wrong" for the scheme, as opposed to "slightly wrong" or "sorta wrong". I'll be waiting/hoping for a 90's scheme or something. Quote
Chronocidal Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 *gets his files and putty ready to fix the fail* I just hope the thing is styrene plastic. At least if they release it with the TCS chin pod, the lower sensor is still reasonably close to the original early A sensor pod. Really saddened by this actually... You'd think for all the work they put into the thing on little details, they'd at least get them right. It's like if Ferrari engineers designed the best car ever made.. but decided that they'd only sell it in 3 colors: throw-up puce, baby mustard yellow, and sunburn pink. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted August 20, 2009 Posted August 20, 2009 If anyone's wondering, I've thought up a Macross equivalent for the errors: It'd be a Milia VF-1J----if they gave it a DYRL-style cockpit, DYRL-style armor (which can't be removed), and twin strike cannons (which can't be removed), and a male pilot wearing an Ex-Gear. Yeah, it's the right type of VF-1, a J model, but every other physical/molded detail which could be wrong, is, and it messes with the timeline. Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted August 27, 2009 Author Posted August 27, 2009 Confirmed high viz for this bird, specifically the one seen from Final Countdown. Quote
David Hingtgen Posted August 27, 2009 Posted August 27, 2009 Oh, a hybrid transitionary scheme while they were doing partial repaints at sea, on the wrong mold. Even better. (if you look close, you'll note that almost no two planes in that movie are painted the same--because they were changing over from high-vis to low-vis while it was being filmed, so nearly every plane is a Frankenstein of parts/schemes, with some variations never seen before nor since) That's the basic problem with using that movie as a reference---it's NOT the high-vis scheme. It's "bits of high-vis leftover since they didn't finish getting them into low-vis yet". I would bet they actually paint it how they looked "the year before", when they were fully painted in a proper scheme, and NOT specifically how they looked in The Final Countdown. Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted August 27, 2009 Author Posted August 27, 2009 I would bet they actually paint it how they looked "the year before", when they were fully painted in a proper scheme, and NOT specifically how they looked in The Final Countdown.Pics? Quote
Mog Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 So which one of you crazy bastards is gonna say, "Screw it!" and make a custom Skystriker out of this puppy? Quote
Steve68 Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 I wonder if they might offer it as a kit, much like 21st Century did with a few of their 1/32 WWII fighters, (Zero, Corsair, Bf109F, etc.). They were the same plastic that came in the pre-painted kits just un-assembled, no paint and with a sheet of decals. They also had a crazy cheap price ($10 at Wal-Mart). Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted August 28, 2009 Author Posted August 28, 2009 Pics of what?VF-84 F-14A a year before Final Countdown Quote
David Hingtgen Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 Most of my pics of that era are in books or "a website that's currently down". But here's what I can show: Key notes: First pic---see the separation between white and grey on the nacelles? It's very wavy, not straight. Second pic---see the stabilators and flaps? They're white. The above 2 notes are true for all the early high-vis Tomcats, it is the factory/delivery scheme for them all. But as the Jolly Rogers moved into low-vis, they "straightened out" (and lowered slightly) the grey/white separation line, painted the stabs grey, the flaps grey, the wing undersides grey, and finally the entire belly grey---in approximately that order. But any plane could be at any stage of repainting, and sometimes went "out of order". You'll often find that the nosecone is missing the black area at the top, abruptly "cutting off" the glareshield painted ahead of the canopy. Century Wing's well-regarded Jolly Rogers models actually don't exactly match any scheme---they're mostly delivery, yet they have the "straightened" white separation line. Never happened from what I can tell--stabs always went grey first. Their AJ201 release fixed that though, it has a wavy line. (I don't really know any other squadron that did the "straight line" thing---every other squadron went directly from wavy white to pure grey bellies) The "wavy white line with white stabs" is THE standard F-14 scheme and it had no variations, from the very first plane of VF-1, to just before VF-111. (The Sundowners were the first squadron to be delivered in low-vis camo) There was no interim scheme---some just ended up that way due to being at sea at the change---including VF-84 and VF-41. The short version is that any scheme variation that is not pure delivery or pure low-vis camo, is a temporary hybrid scheme that was not "intended" but merely how they "ended up for a short time while awaiting full repainting". (I hate hybrid schemes of all sorts on all planes) Quote
David Hingtgen Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 This is a "Final Countdown" plane: http://www.anft.net/f-14/f14-photo-vf084-01xl.jpg Note the "cut off" black area at the nosecone, the grey stabs, and grey flaps. But still has a white belly. Quote
Fatalist Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 Possible pics of a painted sample can be seen HERE. If these are indeed real, I think its beautiful. REGARDLESS OF ANY ERRORS (Looking at you DH) Quote
altermodes Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 Possible pics of a painted sample can be seen HERE. If these are indeed real, I think its beautiful. REGARDLESS OF ANY ERRORS (Looking at you DH) :o i so wish, i can get one .. Quote
derex3592 Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 (edited) OMG!!! How did I miss this thread?!?!?!? OK, so ALL I want to know is when and if they are going to make a Raptor in 1:18??? SOLD!!!! Or an SR-71??? OMG!!!! Edited September 26, 2009 by derex3592 Quote
hutch Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 Beautiful plane...the Tomcat, and especially the Jolly Rogers scheme was my absolute favorite plane growing up in the 80's... I'd love to have this model, but have nowhere near the skill required to make it look good, or room to display it... Additionally, I'd like to say I'm continually impressed with the level of real world aircraft knowledge that exists around here at MW... Quote
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