Macross Big West non-canon mecha and technology thread

[RedWolf]

This thread is for the discussion of exclusive Macross II timeline non-Studio Nue mecha and technology. Meaning from Do You Remember Love up to Macross II Lovers Again.

As you can see some of them still needs to have names on them.

Anyway I need sleep I'll add what I can tomorrow. Zzzzzzz~

Zentradi/Meltrandi

Meltrandi

Queadluun-Nona

Ships

Laplamiz Class Mobile Fortress

Zentradi

Queadluun-Quiltra

Queadluun-Shignomyulu

Ex-Glaug, Giloza-Fle, Shellcair Gar, Rogran-Rau

Manzanip Laa

Ships

Gorg Bodolzaa Class Mobile Fortress

Glo-Vaiza

Okti-Granduura

Nupetiet-Vergnitzs-Class Fleet Command Battleship

UN SPACY

Ships

Daedalus II

Prometheus II

Gloria

Heracles

Corvette

Frigate

Rescue Ship

SDF-1 Macross

Macross Cannon

Valkyries

VF-1 Valkyrie

VE-1 ELINT Seeker

VT-1 Super Ostrich

VF-1 Kai (Custom)

fighter mode

gerwalk mode

VF-1AR

VF-1JR

VF-1SR

VF-X-4 Siren

VF-XX Zentradian

VF-2SS Valkyrie II

VF-2JA Icarus

VA-1SS

(Demonstration version: Metal Siren Replica)

VA-1SS Metal Siren (Armed version)

Destroids etc

AGA-1JF

Defender EX

Giant Monster

Phalanx Custom

Tomahawk II

Civilian

VC-079 Civilian Valkyrie (SNN Valkyrie)

Mardook

Ships

Mardook Fleet Carrier Mothership

Mardook Fleet Flagship

Mardook Grabber (battleship)

Mardook Large Battleship

Medium-sized Battleship

Mardook Scout Ship

mecha

Mardook Zentradi Battle Pod

Mardook Zentradi Commander Type Battle Pod

Mardook Meltrandi Power Suit

Mardook Zentradi Power Suit

Mardook Variable Fighter/Powered Armor

Gigamesh

Soldier Type

Feff Custom

Edited May 7, 2009 by RedWolf

[edwin3060]

For some reason the VF-2SS just doesn't look like a plausible aircraft to me-- and doesn't fit together with canon VFs for that reason. It works ok as a standalone mecha though

[Ginrai]

Does Scrambled Valkyrie count in the DYRL -> Macross II timeline?

[RedWolf]

Does Scrambled Valkyrie count in the DYRL -> Macross II timeline?

As far I know no. That goes the same for the famisoft games. The ones with the Stampede and Star Crusader.

2036 and ELS were released around the same time as Macross II and according to some materials directly related to Macross II.

So the timeline is DYRL-2036-ELS-II Lovers Again.

Not to mention there is a game shout out in OVA with the arcade.

[TheLoneWolf]

Does Scrambled Valkyrie count in the DYRL -> Macross II timeline?

I don't think so. IIRC, the storyline in the game's booklet only referenced DYRL. But honestly, the booklet's story was so lacking in details that it was obviously just an attempt to cash in on the Macross name, whoever came up with it wasn't trying to contribute any new plot points to the timeline, so I consider SV to be in its own isolated timeline.

Edited May 6, 2009 by TheLoneWolf

[Seto Kaiba]

Does Scrambled Valkyrie count in the DYRL -> Macross II timeline?

No. It doesn't.

The core of the Macross alternate universe timeline consists of...

Macross: Do You Remember Love?

Macross 2036: the Neld Fleet Incident (VG)

Macross: Eternal Love Song (VG)

Macross II: Lovers Again

The various cinematics (particularly the opening) from the DYRL videogame is also applicable to the continuity, as are the five Macross II novels, and occasionally the manga adaptation, though not the unofficial side story "The Micron Conspiracy".

RedWolf, just one naming correction for the moment...

When the OVA first came out, the Metal Siren didn't have an official designation. The artbooks just refer to it as "Metal Siren" and the moon festival version as "Metal Siren Replica" (well, the engrish actually says "Metal Siren Leplica"). It was Palladium Books who came up with "VF-1MS" as a designation for it, and then proceeded to mix that up with a few various typos like "VF-MS" in their books.

A while back, the official Macross website (Macross.co.jp) gave the Metal Siren a designation... "VA-1SS". That designation has since been repeatedly confirmed in the pages of Macross Chronicle.

Edited May 6, 2009 by Seto Kaiba

[RedWolf]

I'll edit it now. Anything else I need to change?

[Nexx Stalker]

I'll edit it now. Anything else I need to change?

Macross II mecha should be by Studio Nue, just not designed by Kawamori.

Edited May 6, 2009 by Nexx Stalker

[anime52k8]

Macross II mecha should be by Studio Nue, just not designed by Kawamori.

MacII wasn't done by Studio Nue. It was done by AIC and ONIRO

[Nexx Stalker]

MacII wasn't done by Studio Nue. It was done by AIC and ONIRO

Shame on me! I always thought Studio nue was involved ('must have dreamed seeing their classic sign on some lineart).

[boinger]

Is there any way to confirm the Macross 2036 Zentradi mecha names?

I was reading through Yoshi's Macross 2036 history and the MAHQ website.

MAHQ looks likey they have misnamed some of the mecha.

Queadluun-Quiltra or Queadluun-Shignomyulu or Shigunomyu

(Snakes on shoulders mecha or queadluun-rau like mecha?)

Rogran-Rau or Shellcair Gar?

(queadluun-rau with shoulder antennae)

Shellcair Gar or Shrugeru Gau or Rogran-Rau or Fugrom-Tau

(looks like a nousjadeul-ger with shoulder cannons)

Migg-Pit = Manzanip Laa ?

I'm updating a Macross Picture collection for iMacross4.

It's a happy coincidence that so many people are looking into Macross 2036, too.

Thanks!

[Seto Kaiba]

Is there any way to confirm the Macross 2036 Zentradi mecha names?

I was reading through Yoshi's Macross 2036 history and the MAHQ website.

MAHQ looks likey they have misnamed some of the mecha.

Yeah, there is... there's a lot of corrections yet to be made. I've got the game manuals for Macross 2036 and Eternal Love Song on hand, they're being translated as part of my website project (a Compendium for the alternate universe).

[Vifam7]

Would this game count?

[boinger]

I think that game is Macross: Remember me.

In the pictures I have of the manual, there is the SDF DYRL ship, different characters and 4 new mecha.

I wonder if it's a continuation of DYRL as well?

Characters:

Mecha:

QF-91E Starfighter

SDP-1 Stampede Valkyrie

SDR-04 Mk-XV Maverick

VF-3VF-X3 Star Crusader

[Seto Kaiba]

Would this game count?

Nope, not part of the alternate continuity... just one of the double handful of DYRL-based non-canon side stories.

[Macross007]

Nope, not part of the alternate continuity... just one of the double handful of DYRL-based non-canon side stories.

What a waste of beautiful mecha designs if you ask me.

[RedWolf]

What a waste of beautiful mecha designs if you ask me.

Well even VO is an AU.

If I remember right Love Stories, Skull Leader and Remember Me trilogy are galge (dating sims) with normal playing.

[boinger]

From looking at the few picures I have of the game manuals; Love Stories, Skull Leader and Remember Me look like they even use the same characters.

[HannouHeiki]

thanks for these tech themed threads redwolf. I may not have a lot to say but I love lurking the thread and looking at all the pretty pictures....

[Seto Kaiba]

From looking at the few picures I have of the game manuals; Love Stories, Skull Leader and Remember Me look like they even use the same characters.

Well, most of those games did have character designs by Haruhiko Mikimoto... so it's not surprising that they look similar.

Haruhiko Mikimoto snuck a few Macross II-isms into Macross 7 Trash too... the "Historical District" of City-7 has a lot of the monuments from Culture Park, and the U.N. Spacy flightsuit is virtually identical to the version used in the alternate universe PC Engine games,just with the metal forearm and shin guards removed.

I kinda think this tech-themed thread might be a little premature, since there's very little information available for the mecha of the alternate universe... a problem I'm working to solve... but since I appear to be the only one left who's working on this particular corner of the Macross universe, it's kind of slow going. T_T

Edited May 7, 2009 by Seto Kaiba

[TheLoneWolf]

That's ok Seto Kaiba, it's only a matter of time before this thread devolves into a mess over how much Macross II sucks and how Macross II should be imbedded into the Kawamori timeline.

[boinger]

Before that happens, I'll post up some game screen pictures of mecha from the Banpresto Macross II arcade game.

[Gubaba]

Before that happens, I'll post up some game screen pictures of mecha from the Banpresto Macross II arcade game.

Well, that's great and all, but has anyone noticed that Macross II sucks?

And I think they should incorporate it into the Kawamori timelime. That would totally rock, and I don't think anyone's mentioned it before.

[Mr March]

I kinda think this tech-themed thread might be a little premature, since there's very little information available for the mecha of the alternate universe... a problem I'm working to solve... but since I appear to be the only one left who's working on this particular corner of the Macross universe, it's kind of slow going. T_T

Do what you can. That's all anyone can ask of our volunteer work for the Macross fandom. And know that we do appreciate your efforts.

[Zinjo]

This thread is for the discussion of exclusive Macross II timeline non-Studio Nue mecha and technology. Meaning from Do You Remember Love up to Macross II Lovers Again.

As you can see some of them still needs to have names on them.

Anyway I need sleep I'll add what I can tomorrow. Zzzzzzz~

Zentradi

Ex-Glaug, Giloza-Fle, Shellcair Gar, Rogran-Rau

What book is this line art from?

[RedWolf]

What book is this line art from?

ELS game booklet I believe.

Got most of the scans and game screens here.

http://archive-scans.blogspot.com/2009/05/...cross-post.html

Just over the 2036 Neld Fleet Incident and Eternal Love Song.

[Seto Kaiba]

What book is this line art from?

The first and third images are from the Macross: Eternal Love Song game manual. The second image is from the Macross 2036: the Neld Fleet Incident game manual. They're the new models of power armor used by the Burado and Neld fleets respectively. There's precious little art in the game manuals... which is why I'm waiting to hear back from the developers on my request for production art from the games.

Edited May 8, 2009 by Seto Kaiba