Letigre Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 It's been quiet with announcements by Yamato lately? True, but including the 22 Gamlin they have more that a half dozen things coming down the pipe. They might just be interested in getting thsoe out before annoucing anything else. Dunno, the 22's would probably be limited run then? I can see the run up on those already if they would be limited, but on the other hand I'm sure Yamato knows they'll p[robably sell every one of those they make. Gamlin is arguably a bigger risk than M&M.
Cent Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) At first glance the transformable kit there does look better, but you start to notice a lot of places where it falls short: 1. No tabs at the end of the wings to lock into the legs in fighter. You see a gap between the wings and the legs in the first pic. 2. chest isn't wide enough. This helps reduce the carved out upper thighs problem the Yammie has, but the whole chest in battroid looks pretty squashed, and is not properly cupping around the nosecone. 3. Hands dont seem to fold into arms when in fighter. Not anime accurate. 4. Crotch area is completely different to lineart and anime in battroid mode. 5. Backpack looks a little big. Bigger than the yammie even. I think its cause of that arm assembly in the back there (look at pic 9) 6. Yamato did the collapsing leg compartment (to make way for the bulge in the stowed forearms) much better than this model kit. Page 19, right picture shows the huge gaps in the structure of the inner lower leg. Its because they tried to make the entire inner leg panel angle inwards, rather than have a single slot collapse. Still seems like the design suffered here since the lower forearms look pretty small. 7. The vertical stabilizers on the rear of the legs don't fold and lock upwards like the Yammies, and as a result, they are nearly dragging on the ground in gerwalk and battroid. I think the Yammie design is far superior to this actually. What they need to do is to improve the joint looseness, have a locking chest, loosen the neck locking mechanism, and given the thrusters some more mobility and angle. The only thing Yamato could learn from this kit is the much better and sleeker looking neck curtain they have in fighter mode. Edited June 25, 2009 by Cent
PsYcHoDyNaMiX Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) Look closely (even though the angles are horrible) and you will notice that the fan made transforming Hasegawa YF-19 kit's gullet isn't as sleek as the original (it was altered from the original kit). It hangs/bulges out a bit just like Yamato's. ***EDIT*** And I'm not referring to the crotch piece. Edited June 25, 2009 by PsYcHoDyNaMiX
Cent Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 yea, the gullet is thicker, and I can't quite understand whats going on, but the whole swappable landing gear section is never attached properly in any of the pictures. At first I thought it was the bay doors, but its not; that's further below. You'll see what i mean in the first 2 fighter pics.
Kicker773 Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) It can be done if they chose to do it! Just disappoints me that they haven't yet... Edited June 25, 2009 by Kicker773
m0n5t3r Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 It can be done if they chose to do it! Just disappoints me that they haven't yet... nice! isn't there anything that you don't have in your collection? ... just wow...
anime52k8 Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 I think the Yammie design is far superior to this actually. What they need to do is to improve the joint looseness, have a locking chest, loosen the neck locking mechanism, and given the thrusters some more mobility and angle. The only thing Yamato could learn from this kit is the much better and sleeker looking neck curtain they have in fighter mode. Well first it proves that you can take a hase kit and make it transform. Also I think it does a better job of balancing fighter and battroid than the yamato does. neither the yamato nor the hase custom are line art accurate, but I like the compromises that the Hase custom made better than the yamato. Also I prefer the collapsing leg part on the Hase custom to the yamato design.The execution on the yamato is better but yamato had the benefit of a full design team with CAD software and a fat R&D budget. The Hase was cobbled together in a workshop by a couple model builders. the articulated panel on the hase is cleaner, it uses existing panel lines instead of cutting a big chunk out of the leg. You could make the panel line up perfectly if you had the time and resources.
miriya Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 Yeah Kicker773, You never fail to impress. That is hot.
mr.chogokin Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 That custom Supernova yf19 is really awesome Kicker773!
logos Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 FYI for all of you that pre-ordered the VF-22. Overdrive announced today that Yamato announced the VF-22 would be released July 1st.
Kicker773 Posted June 26, 2009 Posted June 26, 2009 Ghostkiller made one as well that looked awesome!
Letigre Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 FYI for all of you that pre-ordered the VF-22. Overdrive announced today that Yamato announced the VF-22 would be released July 1st. Link? (Hobby Search and HLJ still list the release as Jun..although it just as well could be the 30th at this point. )
Slammer Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) dunno about Logos but I read it in the newsletter...and it`s good news for me, I`ve got Gamlin on preorder and I`m jonesing for a new valk. Edited June 27, 2009 by Slammer
IHATEYOU Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 It's also listed as July 1st on the item page at yamato's site http://www.yamato-toys.com/items/detail.php?gid=1351
eugimon Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Too bad I won't get mind until the VE comes out... I ordered mine together.
Arthurius Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 damn it, comon yamato, hurry up and get this vf-22s version out fast and done with, so that you can finnaly get max or millia color scheme... i cant wait to get at vf-21 or vf-22s!!! I dont like this new scheme that much, and the original yf-21 is fine, just that if i buy only 1, i want to have another scheme. Now unfortunately, the best scheme ever is the one by moq, the black-jack, and it is hopeless for me to think that yamato would do a nice scheme like that. This is obviously the best scheme for a yf-21 / vf-22 http://www.macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?...10&hl=yf-21
Mog Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) Damn, Kicker!! Ya' got any more cool customs hiding out in that massive air wing of yours? Edited June 27, 2009 by Mog
Ghostkiller Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) now that the Yf-19 will be produced in white too makes the supernova sheme quite easy to make.... as yamato will never do it ( come on yamato !! ) When I did mine it was really time consuming to get it white a red version could be nice ! Edited June 27, 2009 by Ghostkiller
Letigre Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Too bad I won't get mind until the VE comes out... I ordered mine together. Yikes..I just cannot conjure that sort of patience.
Kicker773 Posted June 27, 2009 Posted June 27, 2009 Damn, Kicker!! Ya' got any more cool customs hiding out in that massive air wing of yours? Yes a few more. Ghost - give me time and it shall be done.
Letigre Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 WOOHOO! I just got email notice that the VF-22S is in stock at Hobby Search! YES!
jenius Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Too bad I won't get mind until the VE comes out... I ordered mine together. Looks like i'm in for a long haul too, i ordered mine with the VT-1 which just got delayed 2 months
Ivan Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Saw the VF-22 in Hong Kong today. Going price is HK$1119 (c.US$143). It says limited to 500 pieces (not sure what that means). The box is pretty compact and similar in size to that of the VF-11 (kudos to Yamato for learning) but it has no stand. Still, I think it looks awesome!
BlueMax Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 great! Hm... sometimes I can't help but wonder if Hong Kong actually gets toys faster than Japan itself... haha.... probably not surprising considering the relative proximity of production facilities.
nightmareB4macross Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 I just love the color of the production toy. It's no where near as dark as the promo pics. Great job, Yamato!!
thankheaven Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 My Ebay seller just told me that mine would be shipping in 2 days. Woohoo! Finally Gamlin is coming....that is if he doesn't get sidetracked looking for Basara.......again
logos Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) What really sucks is that the stand attachment pieces that they included are for the YF-21 stand!!!! Check pics here at Hobby Search: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10090119 If your not going to include a stand please do not include stand attachments for a stand that is proprietary to the YF-21/SV-51! I was going to put this on my silver Yamato stand or possibly one of the new cheap Yamato stands that I fixed up. Good luck with that happening now! @$#@$@#$@%@%$^()$&_($^&@$_^(&^&@_^$&$_^&_$@^@&_$@&^_&^_($&^_@$!!!!!!!! :angry: :angry: All that money I spent on Yamato stands and they do this........... I see they have gone purple nurple on the box art again. Oh well as long as the box is small that's all that really matters to me anyway. I suppose I will have to shift things around now and free up a flexi. Edited June 30, 2009 by logos
thankheaven Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 What really sucks is that the stand attachment pieces that they included are for the YF-21 stand!!!! Check pics here at Hobby Search: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10090119 If your not going to include a stand please do not include stand attachments for a stand that is proprietary to the YF-21/SV-51! I was going to put this on my silver Yamato stand or possibly one of the new cheap Yamato stands that I fixed up. Good luck with that happening now! @$#@$@#$@%@%$^()$&_($^&@$_^(&^&@_^$&$_^&_$@^@&_$@&^_&^_($&^_@$!!!!!!!! :angry: :angry: All that money I spent on Yamato stands and they do this........... I suppose I will have to shift things around now and free up a flexi. That sucks, they should have included an attachment for the standard stand too, since none is included.
VF5SS Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Man sucks to be you, I already own a Sv-51 so it ain't no thang.
logos Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Well I have a YF-21 but I use the stand for it it. If I had an Sv-51 I would be using the included stand for it. It's just dumb couldn't they make 2 extra plasitc pieces (considering the price) so that I would work with Yamato stands? Just Fu**'n DUMB!
CF18 Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Well the fighter/gerwalk mode adapter from the YF-21 works with the other stands too, so only Battroid mode have this problem.
logos Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 OK now I feel a little dumb. I never noticed that nub on the adapter I use for my YF-21.................sorry I ranted somewhat. I'll have to figure out a way to use it in battroid then.
Slammer Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) sweeet....now file Gamlin`s flightplan to amsterdam already Overdrive! Edited June 30, 2009 by Slammer
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