RedWolf Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K246hR_5ZYo Giant alien bugs I can take but like Moaramia I went WTF!? on this enemy. Whatever happened to just plain variable fighters? Quote
boinger Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 He's also put together video footage of PSX1 Macross Plus and PSX2 Macross DYRL! Quote
RedWolf Posted March 14, 2009 Author Posted March 14, 2009 Say anybody know what that mech is called? Quote
RedWolf Posted March 14, 2009 Author Posted March 14, 2009 Saishuuheiki or Ultimate Weapon as a name is pretty vague. Quote
REbirth Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 I think it's called the Getter Valkyrie. Didn't SK himself create a mecha based on that idea? I mean, the Aquarion? Quote
RedWolf Posted March 14, 2009 Author Posted March 14, 2009 Oh frak I did forget SK made Aquarion. If he designed this one then he has a super robot fetish for Macross. Macross 7 and Sound Boosters were pretty super robot-ish for Macross. Quote
Morpheus Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 In SK design work there are concept of two valkyrie performing gattai, IIRC the name are valkyrie alpha & valkyrie beta. Quote
Graham Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 I've longed for some line art of this mecha, ever since M3 was released. I think only one peice of line art has ever been published so far. IIRC, it was for a very rare promotional poster. Possibly Nanashi may have it, or I may be remembering completely incorrectly. Graham Quote
RedWolf Posted March 15, 2009 Author Posted March 15, 2009 So guys think this thing is piloted or like a ghost? Quote
Morpheus Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 So guys think this thing is piloted or like a ghost? Piloted by Ghost Quote
blacklotus Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) In SK design work there are concept of two valkyrie performing gattai, IIRC the name are valkyrie alpha & valkyrie beta. Is that pre or post dating the Alpha and Beta/Theta from Mospeada? Thanks Edited March 15, 2009 by blacklotus Quote
RedWolf Posted March 15, 2009 Author Posted March 15, 2009 Is that pre or post dating the Alpha and Beta/Theta from Mospeada? Thanks Not that Alpha and Beta. http://www.scribd.com/doc/2460325/Macross-Design-Works-PDF Turn to page 8 Quote
edwin3060 Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 There certainly looks to be some design similarities, with the Alpha being smaller and more fighter-like and the Beta being more B-2/ Bomber-like. Quote
Gubaba Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 There certainly looks to be some design similarities, with the Alpha being smaller and more fighter-like and the Beta being more B-2/ Bomber-like. Well, yeah...but there are only so many ways to do a combination mecha without it becoming rather ridiculous. I think it's more a case of practicality than plagiarism. Quote
Gubaba Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 Yep... I'm not alleging plagiarism here. Sorry, I was speaking figuratively and with alliteration...I wasn't accusing anyone of accusing anyone of plagiarism. I should've been clearer. Quote
Graham Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 I may be remembering wrongly, but IIRC, I think that combining mecha was designed by Miyatake, not Kawaori. Graham Quote
RedWolf Posted March 16, 2009 Author Posted March 16, 2009 I may be remembering wrongly, but IIRC, I think that combining mecha was designed by Miyatake, not Kawaori. Graham Interesting if it is. I'm getting the vibe that Shaishuuheiki are elements of reimagined Zentradi mecha. Upper fighter- Glaug Booster Middle fighter - Gnerl Fighter Pod Lower legs fighter - Reguld Its combined form to me is a looks like a Nousjadeul-Ger. If so this mecha must be at least as big as Konig Monster in battroid mode. Quote
sketchley Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 Interesting if it is. I'm getting the vibe that Shaishuuheiki are elements of reimagined Zentradi mecha. (...) "Saishūheiki" (Saishuuheiki 最終兵器 The Latest (Last) Weapon/Arm(mament) The component elements parts looks spot on. Quote
RedWolf Posted March 16, 2009 Author Posted March 16, 2009 "Saishūheiki" (Saishuuheiki 最終兵器 The Latest (Last) Weapon/Arm(mament) The component elements parts looks spot on. Indeed this guy is the most unique enemy in Macross that it is an almagam of Zentradi mechs. But I hope we got a more formal name than latest/ultimate weapon. I'm more inclined to think this thing is automated than piloted. Quote
Zinjo Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 Is that pre or post dating the Alpha and Beta/Theta from Mospeada? Thanks That is post Legioss/Tread from Mospeada, but hardly a new idea.... Quote
RedWolf Posted October 13, 2009 Author Posted October 13, 2009 I've longed for some line art of this mecha, ever since M3 was released. I think only one peice of line art has ever been published so far. IIRC, it was for a very rare promotional poster. Possibly Nanashi may have it, or I may be remembering completely incorrectly. Graham Actually you're right. Those arm beam cannons resemble Macross Quarter's guns. Missile rack at the back ala Queadluun. And one gun in the middle like the Nousjadeul-Ger. Quote
anime52k8 Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 Actually you're right. Those arm beam cannons resemble Macross Quarter's guns. Missile rack at the back ala Queadluun. And one gun in the middle like the Nousjadeul-Ger. ok, that is officialy the coolest thing ever Quote
RedWolf Posted October 14, 2009 Author Posted October 14, 2009 I was just checking the old Compendium about the cast. (I was looking for bridge bunny names) When I came across this. http://macross.anime.net/production/software/index.html Macross M3 Features Regult, Glaug, Tomahawk, Defender, Phalanx, Gnerl, four new variable craft (VF-9, VF-14, VF-3000, Variable Graug) and entirely new concept mecha (U.N. insectoid bioweapons developed from Protoculture genetic technology and Zentradi final weapon with two different combining mecha modes depending on ending) Two additional mecha for Free Mission mode available via password from Get! Valkyrie Quiz Campaign using network feature (quiz available after episode 8-2b ending) Wait there is two different combining mecha modes?! Am I interpreting this wrong? Quote
sketchley Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Wait there is two different combining mecha modes?! Am I interpreting this wrong? It's extremely badly parsed. So it could mean that the combined mecha has two different modes depending on the ending, or that two different mecha combine into one and you only get to see it in one of the (2?) different endings. Quote
Vepariga Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 (edited) I think its a major design flaw to have a unit in three seprate parts,i dont see the practablity in it,one part gets blown away there goes a whole combat mech. And i doubt they each have the weapons or manuverabilty to evade attacks before getting assembled. the finished product looks nice,but if it comes together like a mega-zord or voltron i think id rather send a sqd of regulds or quad's instead. Edited October 15, 2009 by Vepariga Quote
VF5SS Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Man I'd hate to see you guys criticize the bosses of the other Macross shoot em ups. Quote
the white drew carey Posted October 16, 2009 Posted October 16, 2009 Man I'd hate to see you guys criticize the bosses of the other Macross shoot em ups. LOL! Agreed. This thing is tame by comparison. Quote
nanoplasm Posted October 25, 2009 Posted October 25, 2009 LOL! Agreed. This thing is tame by comparison. Isn't Ghost (forgot what model) the final boss of VF-X2? It was pretty standard VF vs. Ghost-AI deal. Quote
RedWolf Posted October 26, 2009 Author Posted October 26, 2009 Isn't Ghost (forgot what model) the final boss of VF-X2? It was pretty standard VF vs. Ghost-AI deal. AIF9B, formerly known as the X-9. Basicallly what Battle Galaxy did. You'll have to fight them and Syun Tohma to attack Battle 13. In Macross VF-X the enemy is a Feios Valkyrie. Which also was an enemy valkyrie in VF-X2. While in Macross Plus you'll have to fight the Sharon Apple controlled Neo Glaug. In Macross M3 the Zentradi Variable Glaug is an enemy. A Valkyrie buit for giant Zentradi to pilot. Too bad you'll never see these guys as an enemy in a Macross TV series or film. They along along with the Zentradi Final Weapon have a mono-eye as a common characteristic. Quote
VF5SS Posted October 26, 2009 Posted October 26, 2009 I was speaking more of the vertical and side scrolling videos games with their bizarre stage bosses. Quote
sketchley Posted October 26, 2009 Posted October 26, 2009 Isn't Ghost (forgot what model) the final boss of VF-X2? It was pretty standard VF vs. Ghost-AI deal. It's one of the final bosses of the "Macross Plus Game Edition", the other being the Neo-Glaug. Quote
nanoplasm Posted October 26, 2009 Posted October 26, 2009 I was speaking more of the vertical and side scrolling videos games with their bizarre stage bosses. You mean like the giant embryo that turned into a green goblin as the final boss for Scrambled Valkyrie? Is it really more bizarre than space whale or Vajra? Quote
RedWolf Posted November 1, 2009 Author Posted November 1, 2009 http://macross.anime.net/wiki/2030 April # M3 Episode 8 Dancing Skull * [interception] Battle Over Susia o The Dancing Skull special forces team intercept two aerial attacks on the U.N. headquarters on the planet Susia, including one by three unidentified Zentradi combining units. o After the completion of the operation, the two [Jeniuses] are granted special leave. Given what is written on the old site and this I guess you'll either face one or the other of the units then it would later combine. Quote
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