honkhet Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 i hope for a standalone vf-11B also, but it seems highly unlikely Quote
kanedaestes Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Man it isn't that big of a deal just don't display it with the boosters and FPs. Yamato has gotten wise and trys to package their figures now with all the bells and whistles, which really helps especially during these times. Quote
SuperHobo Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 I hope those fast packs can stay on solidly. Please be super magnets. Quote
Vifam7 Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 Man it isn't that big of a deal just don't display it with the boosters and FPs. Yamato has gotten wise and trys to package their figures now with all the bells and whistles, which really helps especially during these times. That depends on how some wish to save money. I believe there are some who want standalone VF-11s is because they don't want to pay extra for what they don't want (the fast packs). Or would rather pay for later. Quote
schmungbeen Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 I hope those fast packs can stay on solidly. Please be super magnets. You could always display it in the feezer in an attempt to improve the magnetic force Quote
kanedaestes Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 That depends on how some wish to save money. I believe there are some who want standalone VF-11s is because they don't want to pay extra for what they don't want (the fast packs). Or would rather pay for later. That's understandable. I just feel though that while that may be the case for some most usually want all the bells and wistles because while it may be more expensive now it winds up being cheaper because if you did just have a standalone figure then wanted to upgrade you wind up paying for the upgrades and the shipping on those. Hence why I am not really going to buy any of the upgrade stuff for my Alto DX, but just by Michel's so I can have a figure with a fast pack. But then I am known for eating my own words so I may end up buying those upgrades too. Quote
rick dieck Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 As myself, i dont like the vf11 fast packs, but if yamato never release a stand alone i probably will display my 11 with the fast packs on the floor at the sides of the bird like the displayed the yf19 sometime. Quote
edwin3060 Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 I don't think the price will be much less even without the FAST pack parts, as the parts are very simple in this case. I also hope for magnets that are stronger than the VF-0 ones! Quote
VT 1010 Posted March 13, 2009 Posted March 13, 2009 If the kites are fixed, the VF-11B now has my seal of approval. Quote
Renato Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 Well, I'm really happy that Yamato listened to Graham, yet again. I remember when the original 1/72 VF-11 was in the prototype stage and Graham told them to change the Fast Packs because they were wrong. Which kind of bothers me... I thought Kawamori checked the development of the toys every so often? I guess Bandai have him right now, so he cannot go over to Yamato and give them input. It also bothers me that if they heard about this first from Graham, then it means that no Japanese industry person nor consumer has complained once about it. That paints an interesting picture. When Yamato says something like "Well... no Japanese consumers have complained about X/Y/Z..." does it mean that Japanese consumers don't really give feedback? It was certainly my image that they didn't, but now I think we have a little more proof. Quote
505thAirborne Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 Sadly big companies look at their profit margins and not the detail that should be applied. (Just look at Hollywood when they "Historical films") Luckily Macross fans and people with inside connections like Graham are able to save the day!! This VF-11 is gonna be great especially with the Fast packs, personally, I like the design. the gunpod with bayonet is even better!! Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 (edited) I guess Bandai have him right now, so he cannot go over to Yamato and give them input. Even before when he wasn't working with Bandai on Frontier stuff, Kawamori has been hard to track down. Edited March 14, 2009 by Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Quote
SuperHobo Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 One thing that kind of has me worried is how well the cockpit area will lock in as the chest for battloid mode. Quote
edwin3060 Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 One thing that kind of has me worried is how well the cockpit area will lock in as the chest for battloid mode. I guess it will be like the YF-21? (i.e. it wont lock down, but just rely on the friction from the hinge) Renato: Well, no one mentioned the wrongly coloured Macross logo on the GN-U DOU VF-11B--- although that may just be because not many people bought it in the first place Quote
MacrossJunkie Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 I guess it will be like the YF-21? (i.e. it wont lock down, but just rely on the friction from the hinge) Renato: Well, no one mentioned the wrongly coloured Macross logo on the GN-U DOU VF-11B--- although that may just be because not many people bought it in the first place Actually, the YF-21 does lock down, but not because of anything to do with the hinge (which itself does nothing to stop or slow any movement of the chest). There are blue plastic nubs on the inner side of each intake. When in battroid mode, the bottom half of the chest which is split from the top half can be pushed down so it gets caught behind the nubs effectively locking it in place. It's not very strong, but wouldn't budge if you were just shaking it around vigorously. Unfortunately there's nothing like that for the VF-11 to rely on. Ideally, it would have a similar locking mechanism to sv-51 where a peg like thing can be folded up to lock into a hole or similar to how the crotch piece on the vf-25 dx locks in, but I so far haven't seen any pics that reveal anything like that. Perhaps it might just rely on friction after all or worst case, nothing at all (which I doubt). Quote
edwin3060 Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 Actually, the YF-21 does lock down, but not because of anything to do with the hinge (which itself does nothing to stop or slow any movement of the chest). There are blue plastic nubs on the inner side of each intake. When in battroid mode, the bottom half of the chest which is split from the top half can be pushed down so it gets caught behind the nubs effectively locking it in place. It's not very strong, but wouldn't budge if you were just shaking it around vigorously. My bad-- I was going off the Collection DX review and they didn't seem to find a locking mechanism. Anyway, there doesn't look to be a peg for locking down the nose. Quote
MacrossJunkie Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 Yeah, that collection DX review was very bad. The guy seemed to have spent like 20 minutes fiddling with the toy before making the review as he missed so many basic things and did very many things poorly which put the toy in a bad light when it really is so much better than that. In contrast, MW member Jenius, takes his time and spends days with a toy before doing a review and makes the effort to get his facts straight. Might not always agree with his assessments, but you can't ever fault him for rushing to a conclusion. I agree with you that there doesn't appear to be any visible locking mechanism on the vf-11. I think that Yamato may still have something that isn't readily apparent to lock it down though. I'm sure enough people complained about the 19 being so floppy that they made sure the 21 could lock down and will also make sure the 11 will stay in place also. Even with the 19, you could at least say it stays in place with gravity as long as you don't flip it upside down, but with the 11, even a little forward tilt without something to hold it in place would make the nose part move away from the fuselage. Quote
logos Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 Ack! I just watched the YF-21 review. Props for doing it but I usually expect allot better from Collection dx. Granted the fast packs are hard to put on and take off but if you spend sometime with it and look at the pics you'll figure it out. Severely disappointed, but maybe I've been spoiled by the great reviews wizatar and some others usually give. Quote
anime52k8 Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 Actually, the YF-21 does lock down, but not because of anything to do with the hinge (which itself does nothing to stop or slow any movement of the chest). There are blue plastic nubs on the inner side of each intake. When in battroid mode, the bottom half of the chest which is split from the top half can be pushed down so it gets caught behind the nubs effectively locking it in place. It's not very strong, but wouldn't budge if you were just shaking it around vigorously. Unfortunately there's nothing like that for the VF-11 to rely on. Ideally, it would have a similar locking mechanism to sv-51 where a peg like thing can be folded up to lock into a hole or similar to how the crotch piece on the vf-25 dx locks in, but I so far haven't seen any pics that reveal anything like that. Perhaps it might just rely on friction after all or worst case, nothing at all (which I doubt). I've had my YF-21 for a while now and I can say that while the blue plastic nubs exist they do NOTHING. they are positioned such that the back part of the nose easily slides past them, and sits way behind them in battroid mode, if they had an indent in the side of the upper half of the nose it would do something but it doesn't. the closest thing to a lock are little bulges on the metal swing bars that move the intakes into position. they serve the purpose you described, but don't do it well at all. Quote
sharky Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 Am I in the wrong thread? I thought this was a VF-11B discussion? Quote
eriku Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 I thought this was a VF-11B discussion? It is. People are talking about the YF-21 in terms of comparison to the upcoming 11 and weather or not the 11 will have a locking mechanism for the chest in battroid mode. The YF-21 was the most recent M+ toy after all. Quote
logos Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 (edited) Where have you seen the VF-11B for sale online? So far the only one I can find (I admit I haven't looked to hard) is: Overdrive: - $187.99 http://www.over-drive-inc.com/store/produc...roducts_id=1132 Thinking I will break down and by one but considering shipping from OD is going to be like $40 want to see if I can find somewhere cheaper. I would like to pay less than the $175US (+$40US shipping) I paid for my YF-21 at Angolz. A grand spanking total of $288.21 CAD is a bit steep for me right now. If I could get it for around $250/240 CAD or $200 US with shipping I think I could work it. Edited March 17, 2009 by logos Quote
edwin3060 Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Where have you seen the VF-11B for sale online? So far the only one I can find (I admit I haven't looked to hard) is: Overdrive: - $187.99 http://www.over-drive-inc.com/store/produc...roducts_id=1132 Thinking I will break down and by one but considering shipping from OD is going to be like $40 want to see if I can find somewhere cheaper. I would like to pay less than the $175US (+$40US shipping) I paid for my YF-21 at Angolz. A grand spanking total of $288.21 CAD is a bit steep for me right now. If I could get it for around $250/240 CAD or $200 US with shipping I think I could work it. Well, HLJ probably, and Angolz will stock it once it is out. Quote
logos Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Yeah I found it on HLJ for 18,800yen/$191US. http://www.hlj.com/product/YMT00114 Not using EMS shipping I think I could get for around $260/$270 CAD. Quote
MacrossJunkie Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 The store that was mentioned in the 1/60 DX thread, Anime-Export, also has it up for pre-order. They list it for 16920 Yen but will ask for payment upfront like Overdrive does. http://safe.anime-export.com/u_productpage...rodotti_id=4892 Quote
sharky Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) Yeah I found it on HLJ for 18,800yen/$191US. http://www.hlj.com/product/YMT00114 Not using EMS shipping I think I could get for around $260/$270 CAD. I think HLJ forces EMS shipping on items over a certain dollar value. Probably for the traceability factor. I could be wrong on that, but that's what happened to me. edit: from HLJ website "Some physically larger items and valuable orders (15,000 yen or more) may be shipped by EMS even if you request SAL shipping, depending on where you live. While this costs you slightly more, the far better handling and trackability of EMS, we believe, is justified when shipping very valuable items." Edited March 20, 2009 by sharky Quote
Arthurius Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 Logos, i think HLJ is not a good option for us canadians. The will mark actual value, and you would be charged both taxes and duties, and that can be simply too much at that point. Quote
logos Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 Yeah I know I have run into that before with them. Makes me real hesitant to order anything from them. I know when my Q-Rau I just ordered comes in I am going to be taking it in the butt but I had to have it. So far from all the places I have ordered I haven't had to pay duty from Overdrive and Angloz. I haven't had to pay from tisinc99.com but their service is spotty at best. Quote
ff95gj Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) Great cockpit design. Edited March 25, 2009 by ff95gj Quote
edwin3060 Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) Thanks for the scans! It looks amazing! Edited March 25, 2009 by edwin3060 Quote
505thAirborne Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 I hope the QC on this one is really good as this is a definite purchase!!! Quote
Kicker773 Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Just go my notices for the my *VF11 orders* can't wait to get them in!! Quote
Kicker773 Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 A quick questions to the guru's...can the Foldildo be also attached to the VF11? I'd like to recreate the scene where the Thunderbolts and Isamu chase Guld and his YF21 Quote
eriku Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 Didn't the 11 have a different and more antquated booster system, like one on the top and one on the bottom? Maybe I'm thinking of a different scene. Quote
logos Posted March 25, 2009 Posted March 25, 2009 The VF-11 had rocket boosters top and bottom. It doesn't look there are attachment points for the fold booster. Besides I don't think it will fit between those FAST packs. The rocket boosters would be cool though. I would take those over the fast packs. Quote
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