RedWolf Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Hours ago I was helping some Anon create his chronology chart. In appreciation of his trial and error approach I present it here. He had to go through several revisions before he can get it right. First Try Second Try Third Try Quote
Gubaba Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Hours ago I was helping some Anon create his chronology chart. In appreciation of his trial and error approach I present it here. He had to go through several revisions before he can get it right. First Try Second Try Third Try I wouldn't call it "Flashback 2014," since that's not the title, but that's just me. DYRL is supposed to be set in 2009, not 2010, but I guess a lot depends on exactly how long Hikaru and Misa were on earth...if it was more than a year, then there you go. Otherwise, Minmay says it's been, what, eight months since the Macross launched, and the Peace Agreement happens on September 11. Other than that, it looks good. Although I think there should be a little better indication that Mac7 Encore happens DURING the TV series, not after it. Quote
Seto Kaiba Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Date for Macross II is wrong in those timelines too... B-Club #79's timeline and the OST books establish that the OVA is set in 2092. Quote
SchizophrenicMC Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 I wouldn't call it "Flashback 2014," since that's not the title, but that's just me. DYRL is supposed to be set in 2009, not 2010, but I guess a lot depends on exactly how long Hikaru and Misa were on earth...if it was more than a year, then there you go. Otherwise, Minmay says it's been, what, eight months since the Macross launched, and the Peace Agreement happens on September 11. Other than that, it looks good. Although I think there should be a little better indication that Mac7 Encore happens DURING the TV series, not after it. Actually, Minmay says five months. So, 5 months at the start places it in September, 2009. Then, we add what could be 2-4 months of Hikaru and Misa stranded on Earth, and we get November 09 or January 10. Either one works. Point stands: The chart is still wrong... Quote
Valkyrie addict Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 flashback 2014? Macross 2036 and ELS?? in Macross II universe?? what are this? Quote
anime52k8 Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Date for Macross II is wrong in those timelines too... B-Club #79's timeline and the OST books establish that the OVA is set in 2092. but the timeline included in macross ace says 2090 Quote
Gubaba Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 Actually, Minmay says five months. So, 5 months at the start places it in September, 2009. Then, we add what could be 2-4 months of Hikaru and Misa stranded on Earth, and we get November 09 or January 10. Either one works. Point stands: The chart is still wrong... It was only five months? Hmm. Can you tell it's been a while since I sat down and watched DYRL? I even had a brain fart and forgot that the Spetember 11 speech happens AFTER Misa and Hikaru come back, i.e. right before the big, big battle. So yeah, it HAS to be 2009. Quote
Ganbare Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) What is Macross ELS ? it's OVA or a game? Man, curiosity kill the cat. Edited February 21, 2009 by Ganbare Quote
anime52k8 Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 What is Macross ELS ? it's OVA or a game? Man, curiosity kill the cat. old NES game Quote
Gubaba Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 flashback 2014? Macross 2036 and ELS?? in Macross II universe?? what are this? Flashback 2014 is just Flashback 2012. The official Macross II timeline sets in, oddly enough in 2014 (See, redwolf? It just creates confusion). 2036 and ELS (Eternal Love Song) are games. Not sure what console they were for, though... but the timeline included in macross ace says 2090 That page isn't the most reliable. As Seto said, the Macross II OST2 booklet lists it as 2092, which at least passes the "circumstantial evidence" test (i.e. Macross II came out in 1992, so they just pushed forward 100 years). Seto seems quite set on that date, and can back it up with at least two sources. Me, I'm betting he's right, but I'm still waiting for Macross Chronicle to cover it before I get all "set in stone" about it. Quote
anime52k8 Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 That page isn't the most reliable. As Seto said, the Macross II OST2 booklet lists it as 2092, which at least passes the "circumstantial evidence" test (i.e. Macross II came out in 1992, so they just pushed forward 100 years). Seto seems quite set on that date, and can back it up with at least two sources. Me, I'm betting he's right, but I'm still waiting for Macross Chronicle to cover it before I get all "set in stone" about it. just saying you can argue a case for both years. until a date shows up in chronicle though, either one is up to speculation. Quote
Sketch Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) Also that timeline directly contradicts Kawamori's claim that the in-universe DYRL is not the same as Macross: DYRL. It also ignores everything written here; http://macross.anime.net/story/encyclopedi...ar_i/index.html I was watching that thread, and that anonymous eventually did one more revision that and took into account the ambiguity of space war I canon. Also Macross: 2036 and Eternal Love Song are for the NEC PCEngine Super CD. Both are awesome, and cheap to pick up on Ebay. Edited February 21, 2009 by Sketch Quote
azrael Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 In any case, it's wrong. Really wrong. Quote
Ganbare Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) old NES game As suspected. Thank's man. Edited February 21, 2009 by Ganbare Quote
JB0 Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 As suspected. Thank's man. The NES game was just Macross, and it was the final battle of Space War 1(well, probably). ELS is a PCEngine game. Also a strategy game, I think. Quote
yellowlightman Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 ELS is a PCEngine game. Also a strategy game, I think. Correct. Was an alright one from what I remember, but it's been years since I played it. Quote
REbirth Posted February 21, 2009 Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) So the difference between the chart and our board varies from one to two years (DYRL movie setting is 2009, not 2010, Macross II sets in 2092, not 2090 like in Macross Ace timeline) so I don't think it would matter much. In any case, it's wrong. Really wrong. Can you explain what's wrong? If there are mistakes, we can fix them. Edit: Err...can I even post torrent here? Anyway, back in the "Macross Launch Day" (Feb 7), a guy in /m/ uploaded both Macross PC Engine Games to Nyaatorrents. So if anyone having trouble finding/buying them, you can go there. Edited February 21, 2009 by REbirth Quote
RedWolf Posted February 21, 2009 Author Posted February 21, 2009 His latest attempt to make it perfect. Thus I will sing this song... *plays Try Again* * tatta ikkyoku no rokkunrooru ashita he hibiiteku asayake no kagata he omae wo saegiru mono wa nani mo nai tatakai tsuzukeru sora ni oorora wa oritekuru uchi hishigareta yoru omae wa hitoribotchi ja nai itsudatte tatta hitotsu no kotoba de mirai wa kimaru no sa oretachi no biito wa kagayaku daiyamondo hontou no sora he hontou no sora he inochi kagayaku sora he FLY AWAY-FLY AWAY nobotte yukou TRY AGAIN-TRY AGAIN kinou ni te wo futte FLY AWAY-FLY AWAY shinjiru kagiri TRY AGAIN-TRY AGAIN ashita wo aiseru sa tatta hitotsu no mayoi ga chansu wo dame ni suru arashi no naka datte hitomi sorasanai saa nando demo saa nando demo yarinaoseru sa kitto FLY AWAY-FLY AWAY nobotte yukou TRY AGAIN-TRY AGAIN akiramenaide FLY AWAY-FLY AWAY shinjiru kagiri TRY AGAIN-TRY AGAIN hi wa mata noboru darou * refrain Quote
REbirth Posted February 22, 2009 Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) ^ Bravo, nice work, sometimes, 4chan /m/ is a great place to stay!!! Edit: 'Kay, they changed Macross DYRL seeting to be 2009-2010 (due to alternative universes), Macross II to 2092 and adding lot of side stories/manga contents...Wait, "Macross English Anticipation"? I never heard of that, it sets around Macross 7 time, so I guess it has something to do with the Fire Bomber gang right? Edited February 22, 2009 by REbirth Quote
Morpheus Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Hmm, did he missed Macross VO on purpose? Since there are two freakin SDF class there beating each other. Quote
RedWolf Posted February 23, 2009 Author Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) Macross DYRL belongs in 2031. It is take a closer look. He is taking account from what SK said that Space War 1 was somewhere between TV and DYRL. TV events with some DYRL visuals is my take on that. Macross Frontier showed both Zentradi uniforms on Galia 4. Macross 7 showed us their own DYRL footage with Max and Milia space fight and in Macross 7 Encore with a DYRL-esque wedding of Max and Millia. DYRL movie in the Macross universe is different and probably more historically accurate than than the DYRL movie we know. Macross DYRL that we know and watched is the origin of the Macross II timeline. Hmm, did he missed Macross VO on purpose? Since there are two freakin SDF class there beating each other. Macross VO and VOXP doesn't seem to fit either timeline simply because of visualization. Not to mention it came after Macross II. Check this site and look at the mecha and story sections. http://www.angelfire.com/mac/mvo/ Megaroad-02 is a Macross Class DYRL version. Now as far I know the SDF-02 Megaroad-01 in both timelines is a Megaroad Class. The footage in Macross Flashback 2012 was supposedly the ending of DYRL that got cut. In the Macross II timeline as far as we know the SDF-1 Macross was still unique. Only the Macross Cannons were its successors. Edited February 23, 2009 by RedWolf Quote
Mr March Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 Nice idea. I wanted to do something similar a while back using the graphic logos from each show. Sadly, good high-res scans of those logos are very hard to come by Quote
taksraven Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 It was only five months? Hmm. Can you tell it's been a while since I sat down and watched DYRL? I even had a brain fart and forgot that the Spetember 11 speech happens AFTER Misa and Hikaru come back, i.e. right before the big, big battle. So yeah, it HAS to be 2009. Is Spetember like Smarch? Taksraven Quote
Gubaba Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Is Spetember like Smarch? Taksraven No, it's like Febuary and Novmeber; don't you know ANYTHING? Quote
taksraven Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 No, it's like Febuary and Novmeber; don't you know ANYTHING? You mean the same sort of thing like the country I live in, you know, Austrayeee-ya. Taksraven Quote
d3v Posted March 4, 2009 Posted March 4, 2009 His latest attempt to make it perfect. Thus I will sing this song... *plays Try Again* * tatta ikkyoku no rokkunrooru ashita he hibiiteku asayake no kagata he omae wo saegiru mono wa nani mo nai tatakai tsuzukeru sora ni oorora wa oritekuru uchi hishigareta yoru omae wa hitoribotchi ja nai itsudatte tatta hitotsu no kotoba de mirai wa kimaru no sa oretachi no biito wa kagayaku daiyamondo hontou no sora he hontou no sora he inochi kagayaku sora he FLY AWAY-FLY AWAY nobotte yukou TRY AGAIN-TRY AGAIN kinou ni te wo futte FLY AWAY-FLY AWAY shinjiru kagiri TRY AGAIN-TRY AGAIN ashita wo aiseru sa tatta hitotsu no mayoi ga chansu wo dame ni suru arashi no naka datte hitomi sorasanai saa nando demo saa nando demo yarinaoseru sa kitto FLY AWAY-FLY AWAY nobotte yukou TRY AGAIN-TRY AGAIN akiramenaide FLY AWAY-FLY AWAY shinjiru kagiri TRY AGAIN-TRY AGAIN hi wa mata noboru darou * refrain Darn it! You're supposed to since only the first part of the song and have the next poster continue it. Quote
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