honkhet Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 i was looking for where this thread was! thanks for bringing it back gen chaos! and yeah yamato WHERE IS OUR TV KAKI 1A??? the wait is overwhelming! must have him in my hands ASAP
ff95gj Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) I just looked up HLJ; Kakizaki TV 1A is backordered, and Max DYRL 1A is in stock. So it is out there, somewhere! Boxarts: http://www.hlj.com/images/ymt/ymt00098box.jpg http://www.hlj.com/images/ymt/ymt00131box.jpg Edited May 21, 2009 by ff95gj
Javabean Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 Boxarts of Max DYRL 1A & TV Kakizaki can be found here fm Sgcollect forum. http://www.sgcollect.com/forum/index.php?s...5&start=255
Californium Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) I thought that the fact that the Virgin Road Valkyrie had a -1A head was an animation error? How would a two-seat -1A work anyway considering there's only one 'head camera'? I think Yamato really needs to start including extra heads with their fighters. How cool would it be to have the Virgin Road two-seater including both a -1D head and a TV -1A head? That way it's accurate BOTH ways. Vostok 7 Lol. They can make a jet that can transform into a robot but they can't split the feed from one camera to two monitors? The episode actually shows both 1A and 1J heads. (The 1J head is mostly just seen from behind, but is definately a 1J head and not a 1D.) The real tell is that the chest plate is always the standard one, never the 1D version. Plus, it wouldn't have made much sense to paint up a whole VF-1D, which most likely would have been assigned to other pilots or actively used for training new recruits, just for that wedding ceremony. And even if they were going to paint up a 1D just for that ceremony, why make it look just like Max's 1J instead of giving it some special wedding scheme, like all white but with red trim on one side and blue on the other.... I always thought they just stripped some avionics and plunked a temporary second seat into his VF-1J. (Notice a second seat added in such a manner would preclude transformation, and Max never changes modes in that episode, unlike just about every other time he dogfights.) Or maybe they just repainted the cockpit from a 1D and swapped it onto his 1J. Edited May 21, 2009 by Californium
ff95gj Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 It's actually here in Hong Kong; I just received a call from the shop. Too bad I am late for home that the shop has already closed!!!! Will get it tomorrow...
m0n5t3r Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 It's actually here in Hong Kong; I just received a call from the shop. Too bad I am late for home that the shop has already closed!!!! Will get it tomorrow... woohoo! thanks for the confirmation... i was nervous it would be delayed too...
Cyclone Trooper Posted May 21, 2009 Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) I thought that the fact that the Virgin Road Valkyrie had a -1A head was an animation error? How would a two-seat -1A work anyway considering there's only one 'head camera'? If you REALLY want to split hairs here, ANY head unit could support a two-seater configuration. I never understood the idea that each pilot had to have a separate and dedicated sensor suit in the head when one set of sensors could have multiple input/outputs...sort of like networking two clients (each pilot) off of the same server (the head unit sensors). Look at the VE-1 and VT-1 as prime examples. The VE-1's head unit is little more than an oversized single-lens camcorder by all appearances; and the VT-1's head unit looks more like a very small ELINT dish than a head unit. Neither of these birds have dual optic/sensor systems, but feed all this data to both the pilot and copilot/intel officer. At the risk of angering the mass of 1D lovers around here, I've always thought that the VF-1D was a tad "overdesigned" where the head unit is concerned. The dual sensor suites in the head are redundant and really not needed...at least in its current configuration. If you MUST have such a setup, a few realistic ways (and I use "realistic" loosely where giant transforming robots are concerned) is to either give a two-seater Valkyrie two heads (this would look absolutely ridiculous) or to have the VF-1D head unit's upper half rotate independently of the bottom half. While halfway practical in keeping with the dual independent sensor idea, this would look really strange in execution. Edited May 21, 2009 by Cyclone Trooper
Javabean Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 It's actually here in Hong Kong; I just received a call from the shop. Too bad I am late for home that the shop has already closed!!!! Will get it tomorrow... Is the DYRL 1A Kaki also released at HK as well?
ff95gj Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Is the DYRL 1A Kaki also released at HK as well? I don't think so; at least I preordered all three, and the shopowner only called me to pick up the two.
Javabean Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) Look like its quite true that DYRL Kaki will only be out next June, along with 1J CF. I preorder all 3 too but are glad that TV Kaki will be out first! Edited May 22, 2009 by Javabean
Javabean Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Look like its quite true that DYRL Kaki will only be out next June, along with 1J CF. I preorder all 3 too & am glad that TV Kaki will be out first!
Javabean Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Look like its quite true that DYRL Kaki will only be out next June, along with 1J CF. I preorder all 3 too & am glad that TV Kaki will be out first!
anime52k8 Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) The episode actually shows both 1A and 1J heads. (The 1J head is mostly just seen from behind, but is definately a 1J head and not a 1D.) The real tell is that the chest plate is always the standard one, never the 1D version. Plus, it wouldn't have made much sense to paint up a whole VF-1D, which most likely would have been assigned to other pilots or actively used for training new recruits, just for that wedding ceremony. And even if they were going to paint up a 1D just for that ceremony, why make it look just like Max's 1J instead of giving it some special wedding scheme, like all white but with red trim on one side and blue on the other.... I always thought they just stripped some avionics and plunked a temporary second seat into his VF-1J. (Notice a second seat added in such a manner would preclude transformation, and Max never changes modes in that episode, unlike just about every other time he dogfights.) Or maybe they just repainted the cockpit from a 1D and swapped it onto his 1J. how does gutting out all the potentially important stuff behind the pilots seat on a plane and rendering it incapable of being used on combat missions make less sense than taking a plane and painting it? Considering they were willing to devote a dozen or so CF's for the ceremony I'd think they would be willing to take one more plane out of rotation long enough to paint it, fly it during the wedding then restore it's old paint job. And if for some reason there was an emergency situation that required the need for that particular plain to be deployed in combat they could easily re arm it and send it out still wearing the wedding scheme, it's not like paint will diminish the planes combat capability. Now taking a 1J and gutting the cockpit to make room for a second seat makes no sense. It would probably take just as long if not longer to completely revamp the cockpit to accept a second seat and still work than it would to paint a plane, but unlike paint, the modification to the plane means it can't be used in combat until you fix it which could take days (and the chances max's 1J would be needed in an emergency is much greater than a random 1D). As for sticking a 1D cockpit onto his 1J, do we even know for sure that you can do that? The cockpit section may be detachable but it may not be compatible between J and D models considering how there are big differences between the main body of each plane. And they'd still not be able to transform the plane until you swap the nose sections back out again so once again it's not usable for combat missions, and where did they get the extra 1D nose if they're too strapped for planes to spare a whole 1D? Edited May 22, 2009 by anime52k8
General Chaos Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Just got the email from Overdrive advising me that the DYRL 1A has been delayed. Release date now TBA. Has anyones TV-1A shipped from Overdrive? I still haven't put in an order anywhere so if they have stock I'll jump in.
Californium Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) how does gutting out all the potentially important stuff behind the pilots seat on a plane and rendering it incapable of being used on combat missions make less sense than taking a plane and painting it? Considering they were willing to devote a dozen or so CF's for the ceremony I'd think they would be willing to take one more plane out of rotation long enough to paint it, fly it during the wedding then restore it's old paint job. And if for some reason there was an emergency situation that required the need for that particular plain to be deployed in combat they could easily re arm it and send it out still wearing the wedding scheme, it's not like paint will diminish the planes combat capability. Now taking a 1J and gutting the cockpit to make room for a second seat makes no sense. It would probably take just as long if not longer to completely revamp the cockpit to accept a second seat and still work than it would to paint a plane, but unlike paint, the modification to the plane means it can't be used in combat until you fix it which could take days (and the chances max's 1J would be needed in an emergency is much greater than a random 1D). The whole idea that they would remove some avionics and stick a second seat in the VF-1J, and it is just that--only an idea, is predicated on the assumption that the VF-1 series would be designed for just that ability. It wouldn't be the first fighter designed with modular avionics packages and the ability to quickly accept a second seat. And it makes sense that modularity would be a key feature of something like the VF-1, where the whole thing is made up of so many major and minor parts joined by transformation mechanisms and moving frames. All of this is just logical supposition, but admittedly unlikely to be what the writers had in mind; if they even gave it that much though at the time, which they probably didn't. Remember also, directly after the aerial wedding ceremony maintenance crews likely would have set about returning the 1D or 1J or whatever it was to normal. But hours later the same plane was available for two seats. If it was just a matter of stripping some easily-removable gear and locking in another seat, that's something that could have been done (again) on Max's request while the pilots already on station were scrambling. Of course, maybe the paint on the 1D was still too fresh to allow them to strip it/repaint it right away, so it was left sitting there and that's how it was available. But that wouldn't explain why the cockpit often looked as small as it did in the animation, why the front and back torso plates on that fighter were the standard versions and not the VF-1D, and why they didn't transform in combat. If you wanted to find an explanation other than animation error, which admittedly is the most likely explanation, a swappable second seat fits what is seen in the episode. As for sticking a 1D cockpit onto his 1J, do we even know for sure that you can do that? The cockpit section may be detachable but it may not be compatible between J and D models considering how there are big differences between the main body of each plane. And they'd still not be able to transform the plane until you swap the nose sections back out again so once again it's not usable for combat missions, and where did they get the extra 1D nose if they're too strapped for planes to spare a whole 1D? Since the Macross had to function as a closed system and still maintain fighting capability, it makes sense that they would salvage as much of wrecked fighters as possible. That would mean lots of left over Valk arms, Valk legs, Valk cockpits and other parts, all being cycled through repair/restoration and waiting to be plugged in in place of more more recently damaged parts. Given how quickly they continued to lose entire squadrons and the fact that they were able to maintain a fighting force, I'd say it's a given that the VF-1 is decently modular, and that wrecked and damaged fighters constantly contributed to the materials they used. Edited May 22, 2009 by Californium
Vostok 7 Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Kakizaki: "Dang gun be jamming again..." *whacks it with fist* Vostok 7
Rabidweezil Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 Yamato's web site still is listing the DYRL Kakizaki as a May release. http://www.yamato-toys.com/items/detail.php?gid=1290
Dangard Ace Posted May 22, 2009 Posted May 22, 2009 They better release it soon. My order with Over Drive is waiting for that one product to be released before they ship it out.
General Chaos Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Hey!!! I spy a danger triangle tampo'd on under kakis canopy in that pic of of the Vermillion Squad just posted. There were complaints about Max's not getting one and that area looking barron. I was going to pass it off as that design just being deliberately bare but now Kaki has it... What's up with that? Rare First run Max with non danger tampo's -get!! I shall start the bidding at $700
m0n5t3r Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) you're right! so, what ???... they missed tampoing that for the Max 1A... damn, making me think twice about getting the Max TV 1A now... Edited May 23, 2009 by m0n5t3r
Javabean Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 The previous 1J Hikaru also missed the tampo printing. But there are the stickers available to use, so really not a problem for me
Toonz Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 (edited) i LIKE the TV kaki 1A MORE than the dyrl kaki 1A. am i the only one feeling this way? Edited May 23, 2009 by Toonz
MacrossMan Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 i LIKE the TV kaki 1A MORE than the dyrl kaki 1A. am i the only one feeling this way? I think most will agree with you on this. I'm getting both, but I wouldn't be surprised if the DYRL version turns out to be one of the least sold.
ff95gj Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 The most left-over 1/48 valks are, in order, AB, Kakizaki and LV2 in my city.
jedimech Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 The most left-over 1/48 valks are, in order, AB, Kakizaki and LV2 in my city. Same here in my area.
MacrossMan Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 Ahh! Finally! I assume you are not in the U.S. to have this already. Looks like I need to check Over-Drive and HLJ to see if they are available.
ff95gj Posted May 26, 2009 Posted May 26, 2009 Yes, I live in Hong Kong - and HLJ had it on May 21 already.
ff95gj Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 Update: According to the official site, DYRL 1A is not delayed to June; scheduled on May 30 I doubt how popular this one will be though... Personally, this is my least-wanted VF thus far...
Slammer Posted May 29, 2009 Posted May 29, 2009 LOL! what a fitting idenification number he has, 112 AKA the dutch emergency line(think 911)
General Chaos Posted May 29, 2009 Posted May 29, 2009 I got mine today. It is currently in gerwalk mode covered in promodellers weathering wash and drying. Not sure if i will clean it right up only leaving panel lines or leave it weathered.. He didn't really live long enough for his valk to get weathered so....
sidearmsalpha Posted May 29, 2009 Posted May 29, 2009 Gamu Toys Kakizaki TV pictures!!! Nice, but damn you, Yamato! Why can't you go ALL THE WAY with a true TV version and give us a proper TV style cockpit with the right display and control panel?!
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