VFTF1 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I also prefer my girls in more tasteful outfits and would love a Ranka figure in the white dress. However, given the cannonical nature of this statue and how cute Ranka is anyways, and the stand/background thingy - I will get it and hope for more Rankas to come. Every anime show with a young girl in it was "loli" and every anime girl was usually in some way unconventional "for its' time." Minmey's shower scene in SDF M TV was probably considered "revolutionary" for its' time. Right now it seems "quaint" and "tasteful." "Loli" - to me - actually means nothing. It's like saying "you got the cooties!" Anyways - it's nice to wake up in the morning and see this thread at the top of the charts Pete Quote
Mercurial Morpheus Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 It will also come with a background stand. As a fan of pinup noseart, that's the clincher for me. Nice. Quote
Cent Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Anime has more often than not had kids under 15 pilot war machinery. Categorizing all underaged females under loli would be just make the selection far too broad. I don't think Minmei or Mylene were considered anywhere near loli, even in that time, and public acceptance of prominent loli characters didn't surface in anime till much later. I think there would have been severe social backlash about it then. Ranka obviously aims at the lolicon crowd, but at least the creators were reasonable enough to diversify the female populace in Frontier. Unfortunately, they made all the male characters feminine while they were at it. >_> About the toy though... Considering that many of the members here are married and even have young children... How the hell are you going to slip this into your collection? Keep it in a closed cabinet? Socially awkward. Edited January 27, 2009 by Cent Quote
anime52k8 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 About the toy though... Considering that many of the members here are married and even have young children... How the hell are you going to slip this into your collection? Keep it in a closed cabinet? Socially awkward. embrace you're inner pervert and display it with pride? Quote
badboy00z Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 A character is only "loli" if you're attracted to them in that way IMO. If you're not then she's just another character who just so happen to be under aged. Quote
VFTF1 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 About the toy though... Considering that many of the members here are married and even have young children... How the hell are you going to slip this into your collection? Keep it in a closed cabinet? Socially awkward. My step-daughter, who is 11, has stuff in her collection that is far more "lolicon" - it's a trend in children's comics these days - particularly for little girls. My girlfriend (step-daughter's mom) thinks my obsession with cute women is good because a side-effect is that I buy her lots of clothes so she can look as cute as my anime dolls. Also, when we go shopping together, she is happy that I actually have good taste and can help her pick stuff that she looks good in. This is much funner than "here honey - take the credit card and have a nice day shopping." There are designer and fashion magazines all over their apartment which the girls read. Theres tons of lingerie everywhere. My girlfriend likes raunchy erotic movies. Her step daughter just got her ears pierced and, as can be expected at her age, she envies her mom and older girls and wants to be "gornw up" too so that she can go out with guys and go to parties etc etc etc. All of this is normal and to some how suggest that with the addition of 1:8 Ranka to my collection, my girlfriend will decide to quit her job and pimp out her daughter, who will suddenly develop the urge to run naked in the streets while snorting cocaine (or some other "bad effect") is just not logical:) Although it is funny Pete Quote
miriya Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 A character is only "loli" if you're attracted to them in that way IMO. If you're not then she's just another character who just so happen to be under aged. But her top is coming off! Quote
VFTF1 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 But her top is coming off! AND EVEN WORSE - SHE WAS BORN NAKED I'LL BET! Pete Quote
Cent Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 VFTF brings you: Justifications for pedophilia 101. Quote
VFTF1 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 VFTF brings you: Justifications for pedophilia 101. I can't win My girlfriend sometimes accuses me of being a homosexual because so many of my male friends are gay, my fellow Macross fans accuse me of being a pedophile because I think Ranka is cute, my ex-boss says I'm a bad person because I don't sleep around with lots of women, and my male friends always get mad at me when it turns out I'm not gay, but they are and they thought I was too... Life really is a bummer. Pete Quote
edwin3060 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I can't win My girlfriend sometimes accuses me of being a homosexual because so many of my male friends are gay, my fellow Macross fans accuse me of being a pedophile because I think Ranka is cute, my ex-boss says I'm a bad person because I don't sleep around with lots of women, and my male friends always get mad at me when it turns out I'm not gay, but they are and they thought I was too... Life really is a bummer. Pete and all this while none of your acquaintances, other than Macross Fans, have realised that you relieve yourself, so to speak, through your lolicon inclinations! Quote
VFTF1 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 It's like... kiddie pron... Yep - that's all Macross Frontier and anime in general are. Me, I prefer animals. That's why I like the Lion King, Sesame Street, and Tom & Jerry. Pete (in what should be a transparently sarcastic comment meant to draw attention to the fact that comparing Ranka in a bikini to kiddie porn is like saying that cartoons featuring anthropomorphic animals are actually erotic zoophilia pornography) Quote
Vostok 7 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Yep - that's all Macross Frontier and anime in general are. Me, I prefer animals. That's why I like the Lion King, Sesame Street, and Tom & Jerry. Pete (in what should be a transparently sarcastic comment meant to draw attention to the fact that comparing Ranka in a bikini to kiddie porn is like saying that cartoons featuring anthropomorphic animals are actually erotic zoophilia pornography) Interesting. Except, sitting seductively taking off (or putting on) a skimpy bikini is somehow the same as anthropomorphic (the animals in Lion King weren't strictly anthropomorphic) animals which happen to be naked in completely non-sexual situations? I think you're really beginning to reach for your justifications Vostok 7 Edited January 27, 2009 by Vostok 7 Quote
VFTF1 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Except, sitting seductively taking off (or putting on) a skimpy bikini is somehow the same as anthropomorphic (the animals in Lion King weren't strictly anthropomorphic) animals which happen to be naked in completely non-sexual situations? Because the judgment of what is "seductive" and what is a "completely non-sexual situation" is ultimately a matter of subjective tastes. Also - even if we grant that Ranka is seductive and that her overture is sexual - then that is still a far cry from pornography. A pencil is "sexual" insofar as it is phalic - heck - just about anything can be seen as "sexual." As for seductive - ditto: there are various things that can be seen as seductive. "Sexual" and "seductive" are not synonymous with "pornographic" which by definition usually entails actual sexual activity. There is no sexual activity going on in that statue. Ergo, it's not kiddie porn or any other kind of porn. Pete Quote
badboy00z Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 But her top is coming off! Why should that matter to you? If you're a normal guy who likes big breasted women then Ranka in a bikini wouldn't be loli to you because you don't find it attractive. Definition of "lolita" or "loli" is a desirable young girl. Only the eyes of the beholder can say whether one is a loli or not. So basically everyone who says so and so is a loli have a few secrets. Quote
miriya Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 The fact is that this is a figure based off of a bombshell/pinup style aircraft marking which are supposed to be of attractive women wearing little to no clothes BUT the "woman" is a 13 year old girl. Quote
miriya Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Anyway I like Ranka's character in Frontier but I am not going to get this figure. Quote
badboy00z Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 The fact is that this is a figure based off of a bombshell/pinup style aircraft marking which are supposed to be of attractive women wearing little to no clothes BUT the "woman" is a 13 year old girl. Ranka's not 13. Quote
eugimon Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) The fact is that this is a figure based off of a bombshell/pinup style aircraft marking which are supposed to be of attractive women wearing little to no clothes BUT the "woman" is a 13 year old girl. but she's 16 and well past the age of consent in the country this fiction is produced and is well within the general age of consent range for the greater east asian culture and well within the age of consent for most of the countries in the continent and also happens to be with the age of consent for the countries in North America and around half of the states in the United States of America. It also happens to be anywhere from 2 to 4 years OLDER than in several countries including Mexico and several European States. Edited January 28, 2009 by eugimon Quote
VFTF1 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 And her feelings would be traumatically hurt if she knew that you said she was "not a woman." Bad enough she had to endure boob-ville at the Miss Macross concert and Boob-Sheryl is all over the guy she loves, it would probably break her little sweet heart to hear someone say that she's "not a woman" just because her breasts aren't large for shame tsk-tsk Pete Quote
miriya Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 but she's 16 and well past the age of consent in the country this fiction is produced and is well within the general age of consent range for the greater east asian culture and well within the age of consent for most of the countries in the continent and also happens to be with the age of consent for the countries in North America and around half of the states in the United States of America. It also happens to be anywhere from 2 to 4 years OLDER than in several countries including Mexico and several European States. But hey, don't let facts stop you all from your name calling, continue, continue. Well I have clearly been served! I dont know why I thought she was 13. (maybe I read it in one of those nightmares where I am on Macrossworld forums) By the way I was not calling anyone names. Quote
eugimon Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Well I have clearly been served! I dont know why I thought she was 13. (maybe I read it in one of those nightmares where I am on Macrossworld forums) By the way I was not calling anyone names. yeah sorry, not you in particular, but "pedophile" has been thrown out rather casually in this thread. I happen to know people who were victims of child rape and it strikes a nerve with me when the term is used so flippantly. Quote
CF18 Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 I know I was right to label it NSFW - the comments are worst then the pictures... If it is a Nanase figure instead we will just have all the perv talk without the whining, even they are suppose to have the same age. You know it is actually micron Klan showing most skin in the anime. May be she will show more in the movie. Quote
miriya Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 yeah sorry, not you in particular, but "pedophile" has been thrown out rather casually in this thread. I happen to know people who were victims of child rape and it strikes a nerve with me when the term is used so flippantly. Same here. I am guilty of using the term lolicon in this thread though. Quote
miriya Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 I know I was right to label it NSFW - the comments are worst then the pictures... If it is a Nanase figure instead we will just have all the perv talk without the whining, even they are suppose to have the same age. You know it is actually micron Klan showing most skin in the anime. May be she will show more in the movie. Great points! Nanase is 16 too?! Damn! Now since I live in California I will have to wait 2 years. Werent Hikaru and Minmei 16 at the beginning of SDFM too? And YES, if there was a nice Nanase figure I would probably buy that but it would not look like an underaged girl like Ranka does. Maybe I thought Ranka was 13 beacuse she looks it whereas Nanase looks 19. Quote
adrianop Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 I guess to sum it all up, everyone agrees its a nice figure. Some like the pose and clothing (or lack of it) and will get it, some will pass. Ill just wait for a uniform/normal dress/concert dress figure. Quote
KingNor Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) pssh, what ever, this thread took a serious turn in just the last few posts before i got here. no fun. **edit for being a level headed yutts** Edited January 28, 2009 by KingNor Quote
edwin3060 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 It's all the Lion King's fault--- once he got mentioned, everything went downhill. Damn you Simba!!! Also, Ranka's chest, or lack of thereof, is actually pretty normal among Asians. Nanase is the one with freak torpedo boobs! Quote
VFTF1 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 King Nor - where does that fabulous picture of Misa in your Avatar come from? Mr. Lingerie Quote
Cent Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 It's all the Lion King's fault--- once he got mentioned, everything went downhill. Damn you Simba!!! Also, Ranka's chest, or lack of thereof, is actually pretty normal among Asians. Nanase is the one with freak torpedo boobs! nanase was really uninteresting imo. Not sure if anyone else felt the same. Quote
VFTF1 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) nanase was really uninteresting imo. Not sure if anyone else felt the same. Gubaba - call your office! Pete Mr. Lingerie Edited January 28, 2009 by VFTF1 Quote
edwin3060 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 nanase was really uninteresting imo. Not sure if anyone else felt the same. Nanase is what I would call in Chinese a 'Hua Ping'-- a flower vase-- pretty to look at but for ornamental purposes only Quote
VFTF1 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) I tried to do a search - but I can't find the thread. Help... You guys need to read the long long looong discussion of the vital importance of Nanase that is somewhere in the Movies and TV section... Pete Mr. Lingerie Edited January 28, 2009 by VFTF1 Quote
Cent Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) Couldn't find it either... But honestly Nanase served 2 roles... 1 to jumpstart Ranka's confidence, while ironically being an adversary (the anime uses Nanase's bust to intimidate Ranka more than once) at the same time. And second, to unconvincingly push Luca into seek vengeance against the Vajra. Anyways, this topic is getting seriously derailed. Ranka figure looks like it was done well, but I think Klan's figure was better I wouldn't get this figure, but I wouldnt mind getting a VB-6 with Ranka tampoed on the side. Edited January 28, 2009 by Cent Quote
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