Old Bandai Max/Milia vs. New

[Skull-1]

Does anyone have any side-by-side comparisions of the Old Bandai vs. the Reissue? Milia's in particular (the reissue) looks way too dark. Is it just me?

Edited November 6, 2003 by Skull-1

[ewilen]

I think you mean the old Takatoku. Bandai never did Max & Millia before the reissue.

[Skull-1]

Technicalities, technicalities. Lockheed didn't make most of the F-16s out there, but once they "bought the molds" so to speak, they're all called Lockheed-Martin F-16s.

So, is the Banadai darker than the Taka?

Edited November 6, 2003 by Skull-1

[Sturmvogel]

Yes, there are differences.

Here are a couple of relevant links for the Max and Milia reissues.

[Skull-1]

He asserts that the Milia Reissue is lighter and brighter. Man, mine are both so dark that I'd hate to see what the original looked like. It must have been black!

[Sturmvogel]

Maybe he got a Joons repackaged in a Bandai box.

It looks like the big difference is the color of the elbows.

[nemesis120]

That's one thing I never got - he points out the elbows but he doesn't mention the landing gear covers (which are different)

[Skull-1]

Well, I cannot imagine the original Milia being darker than this one. This thing of mine is *DARK* red. You can barely tell it's red.... It's almost black (dark maroon).

[ewilen]

Technicalities, technicalities. Lockheed didn't make most of the F-16s out there, but once they "bought the molds" so to speak, they're all called Lockheed-Martin F-16s.

Sorry to go off topic, but...ick. I really hate the idea of a "Boeing F-15" or "Boeing F-18".

[Sephiroth]

The ol' skool Taka Millia rocks! I still want the Bandai reissue, though...

[Skull-1]

See, that is a much brighter, more "blood" red than this reissue of mine is. It's more a wine color...

[Toonz]

maybe the old millia drank high quality red wine and the new millia drank grape juice

[Sturmvogel]

Definitely looks like the reissue is darker. I think I like it darker...it's my favorite reissue (I think it looks even better than the Max).

Does anyone have the both orginal Takatoku and the Bandai reissue for a color comparison?

If not, I'm willing to borrow a Takatoku to do a comparison analysis. It should only take a fews years on display next to my Bandai, just to make sure I'm accurate, and then I can return it.

[ValkyrieFactory]

From what I have seen, lighting makes a big difference in how the red turns out in the picture. Let me dig out my old Takatoku VF-1J's tonight and do a side-by-side comparison with the new Bandai ones.

[ValkyrieFactory]

Ok guys,

As promised, here are some side-by-side comparisons of the Takatoku VF-1J and the Bandai VF-1J. In all of the below pictures, the Taka Valk is on the left and the Bandai Valk is on the right.

First up, Taka Max vs. Bandai Max:

As seen in this picture, the Taka Max is somewhat lighter than the Bandai Max. Note the difference in the color of the elbows...

...and the color of the rear landing gear covers.

Next up, Taka Milia vs. Bandai Milia:

D'oh! The Taka Milia is indeed lighter and brighter than the Bandai Milia. I must have been high on something when I said the just opposite on my page. Again, note the difference in the color of the elbows...

...and the color of the rear landing gear covers.

One more thing that I would like to point out is while the cockpit of the Taka Max and those of the Bandai Max and Milia are molded grey, the cockpit of the Taka Milia is molded red! I thought that this was a mistake with my Taka Milia but nope, Sephiroth's Taka Milia also has the red cockpit. Hmmm, I wonder why that is so.

Edited November 8, 2003 by ValkyrieFactory

[Apollo Leader]

One more thing that I would like to point out is while the cockpit of the Taka Max and those of the Bandai Max and Milia are molded grey, the cockpit of the Taka Milia is molded red! I thought that this was a mistake with my Taka Milia but nope, Sephiroth's Taka Milia also has the red cockpit. Hmmm, I wonder why that is so.

On the old Takatokus, they had no detachable heat shield. Maybe the cockpit was molded red to give the illusion that it has a red heat shield, kind of like how Takatoku tinted the canopy of Roy's VF-1S very dark and then painted the skull and crossbones on top all for the purpose of making it appear that the toy had a heat shield.

[TheLoneWolf]

Is it at all possible that Millia's Taka valk is lighter due to age? After all, it's nearly a 20 year old toy.

[Skull-1]

I would think it would darken with age. Look at the lighter parts... They have darkened with time.

[Sephiroth]

One more thing that I would like to point out is while the cockpit of the Taka Max and those of the Bandai Max and Milia are molded grey, the cockpit of the Taka Milia is molded red!  I thought that this was a mistake with my Taka Milia but nope, Sephiroth's Taka Milia also has the red cockpit.  Hmmm, I wonder why that is so.

On the old Takatokus, they had no detachable heat shield. Maybe the cockpit was molded red to give the illusion that it has a red heat shield, kind of like how Takatoku tinted the canopy of Roy's VF-1S very dark and then painted the skull and crossbones on top all for the purpose of making it appear that the toy had a heat shield.

I would say that would be a very logical assumption. I also think that it has something to do with how those certain parts were arranged within the mold plates...they probably all had to one color: grey, brown, red or blue.

I noticed that the Takatoku Max VF-1J pictured above had a grey cockpit and it caught me off guard. A couple of years ago, the Max I owned had a cockpit molded in blue just like my Millia. I distincly remember this because it always gave my Max and Millia the apperrance of darker canopies:

Anyway, it appears that there are variations on the Takatoku Max VF-1J and possibly even the Millia VF-1J. Looking at Nam Ngo's pics at Valkyrie Factory, it appears his Max has the grey cockpit while his Millia has the red cockpit.