Loop Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 And what about a VF-2SS ? Macross II is like the bastard child of the Macross franchise. Quote
mechaninac Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 (edited) Macross II is like the bastard child of the Macross franchise. And that answer completely failed to address the inquiry in question. Established canon elitists will always dislike, loathe, or hate Macross II and anything associated with it to varying degrees ranging from mild condescending disdain to foaming-at-the-mouth apoplexy. And fans will often point out that once-upon-a-time MII was the sequel to DYRL?, warts and all, until being relegated to Alt. Universe, second banana status. None of that alters the design/aesthetic merits of the show's mecha, and the Valkyrie II and Icarus are very nice, and sexy, indeed... to those who appreciate them. So, all that baggage aside, the question is a valid one... what about the VF-2SS? I'd personally love to see it given the 1/60 treatment by either Yamato or Bandai, I don't care which. Edit: And Yamato's rendition of the sexy VF-4 thusfar looks outstanding. Edited May 19, 2012 by mechaninac Quote
Kicker773 Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 OMG I'm still waiting for that to happen. I actually bought three kits of the musasiya finding a way to get those built. I might be the minority but I did love that series. Quote
Kurisama Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Macross II is like the bastard child of the Macross franchise. And just like John Snow, the VF-2SS is a fan favourite. I'd love a VF-2JA Icarus too. I love the contrast in design for both of them,. I too would love to see these from Yamato. Quote
Loop Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 And that answer completely failed to address the inquiry in question. Established canon elitists will always dislike, loathe, or hate Macross II and anything associated with it to varying degrees ranging from mild condescending disdain to foaming-at-the-mouth apoplexy. And fans will often point out that once-upon-a-time MII was the sequel to DYRL?, warts and all, until being relegated to Alt. Universe, second banana status. None of that alters the design/aesthetic merits of the show's mecha, and the Valkyrie II and Icarus are very nice, and sexy, indeed... to those who appreciate them. So, all that baggage aside, the question is a valid one... what about the VF-2SS? I'd personally love to see it given the 1/60 treatment by either Yamato or Bandai, I don't care which. Edit: And Yamato's rendition of the sexy VF-4 thusfar looks outstanding. And just like John Snow, the VF-2SS is a fan favourite. I'd love a VF-2JA Icarus too. I love the contrast in design for both of them,. I too would love to see these from Yamato. Hey guys I did not say I hated Macross II designs, but I was pointing out what I have observed. Kawamori doesn't even recognize it as cannon, that's how it got "relegated to Alt. Universe" I agree it would be great for major macross toy mfg to produce PT toys of MacII designs, the more transforming toy's available the better has always been my stance on toy's. I also feel it was a a valid question, and I answered with what I felt has seemed pretty obvious for a while now to me anyways. Quote
mechaninac Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 (edited) Sorry if my post seemed to imply that you were one of the haters. It was a statement about elitists in general (they're out there, make no mistake), whose snobbish devotion to their preferred canon blinds them to the positive aspects of everything else; similar to the whole dub vs. sub validity debates... why not both? It's just that your post brought that hole aspect of fandom to mind. Edited May 19, 2012 by mechaninac Quote
Loop Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 Sorry if my post seemed to imply that you were one of the haters. It was a statement about elitists in general (they're out there, make no mistake), whose snobbish devotion to their preferred canon blinds them to the positive aspects of everything else; similar to the whole dub vs. sub validity debates... why not both? It's just that your post brought that hole aspect of fandom to mind. No apologies necessary, just wanted to clear it up. Quote
M!CK Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 And just like John Snow, the VF-2SS is a fan favourite. Game of Thrones reference spotted. And yes I am a big fan of the VF-2, and i never saw Macross II. I just love the design, really far from any other valk's design. And above all, I think there are too many VF-1 edition (and more to come...)... we need fresh new Valks ^^ Quote
Omegablue Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) What about all the other Vf-1's... Edited May 24, 2012 by Omegablue Quote
Renato Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 It's "Jon Snow", not "John Snow". Graham The Channel Four News anchorman? He was my favourite! Quote
Zinjo Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Hey guys I did not say I hated Macross II designs, but I was pointing out what I have observed. Kawamori doesn't even recognize it as cannon, that's how it got "relegated to Alt. Universe" So then what happens when Kawamori quits Macross entirely or simply dies of old age? He is getting up there... There is no new blood, the fanbase seems incapable of accepting any story without his name attached (with the recent exception of Mikimoto). What happends then? Quote
EXO Posted June 5, 2012 Author Posted June 5, 2012 So then what happens when Kawamori quits Macross entirely or simply dies of old age? He is getting up there... There is no new blood, the fanbase seems incapable of accepting any story without his name attached (with the recent exception of Mikimoto). What happends then? Quote
VF5SS Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 But Tenjin isn't a director or a mechanical designer Quote
EXO Posted June 6, 2012 Author Posted June 6, 2012 Nor is he a writer... I was just wondering which insufferable knowitall can reply in less than 30 minutes. Quote
Renato Posted June 6, 2012 Posted June 6, 2012 But Tenjin isn't a director or a mechanical designer Oh, but he will learn... Do the words "Arise, Rodimus Prime" mean anything to you? Quote
VF5SS Posted June 6, 2012 Posted June 6, 2012 Does Tenjin defeat the bad guys through self deprecating humor and sarcasm :3 At least he understands how to make a Valkyrie that isn't terrible looking in fighter mode like the VF-2SS. Quote
Graham Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 I'd love to see another writer tackle the next macross anime. However, only Kawamori should be allowed to do the mecha designs for the VFs. While Tenjin is a fantastic artist at illustrating other peoples designs, he has yet to prove that he can design VFs himself, that fit the in-universe style. Graham Quote
Renato Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 I'd love to see another writer tackle the next macross anime. However, only Kawamori should be allowed to do the mecha designs for the VFs. While Tenjin is a fantastic artist at illustrating other peoples designs, he has yet to prove that he can design VFs himself, that fit the in-universe style. Graham At the moment, he hasn't been given the opportunity to design his own things, though. On a related note: http://www.macrossworld.com/2198/im-like-a-backlash-against-kawamori-san-and-mikimoto-san-hidetaka-tenjin-interview-from-macross-the-first-volume-1/ Quote
EXO Posted June 9, 2012 Author Posted June 9, 2012 I'm fine with almost everyone's role for the moment, except I agree with the writer and bring back Mikimoto as the character designer. Yokko Kanno's music is awesome though, I really enjoyed Frontier's music. Did she do BGM to or just the songs? The BGM on Frontier had an epic feel. Quote
Renato Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 I'm fine with almost everyone's role for the moment, except I agree with the writer and bring back Mikimoto as the character designer. Yokko Kanno's music is awesome though, I really enjoyed Frontier's music. Did she do BGM to or just the songs? The BGM on Frontier had an epic feel. She did everything. Quote
xrentonx Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 Yoko Kanno is the crowning jewel on a lot of stuff Quote
BeyondTheGrave Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 So then what happens when Kawamori quits Macross entirely or simply dies of old age? He is getting up there... There is no new blood, the fanbase seems incapable of accepting any story without his name attached (with the recent exception of Mikimoto). What happends then? They will do like R.O.D. the series and scatter the essence of Kawamori (his mind) in the form of energy across the atmosphere. Then collect said energy and download it into Tenjin or another suitable host.Or... they go the Ghost in Shell route and transfer him into a cyborg body. Quote
GRAND CANNON Posted August 3, 2012 Posted August 3, 2012 Yoko Kanno is the crowning jewel on a lot of stuff Ladies & Gentlemen, The nail has just been hit on the head! Quote
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