Beltane70 Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 The other thing that I find stupid as hell is people that put badges from cars that aren't even made from the company they put them on, especially when the badge is from a high-performance vehicle when the car is no where near a high performance car. The other day I saw a Corolla with a GT-R badge on it. I wouldn't even put a GT-R badge on my car, and mine's actually a Nissan!
areaseven Posted June 4, 2009 Author Posted June 4, 2009 The other thing that I find stupid as hell is people that put badges from cars that aren't even made from the company they put them on, especially when the badge is from a high-performance vehicle when the car is no where near a high performance car. The other day I saw a Corolla with a GT-R badge on it. I wouldn't even put a GT-R badge on my car, and mine's actually a Nissan! That's typical of a ricer. I remember seeing a video where some guy had a GT-R badge on an old Mustang. He was asked if his Mustang had a rotary and he said yes. What a moron!
DJ Loe Kee Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 japanese bodykits are win. the are tested in a windtunnel and the racetrack so that they actually increased the aerodynamics of a car/jgtc race car (this is why the japanese companies complain about americans buying pieces of their kit and not the whole package as this ruins the areodynamics that they engineered). most u.s. bodykits usually decrease a car's aerodynamics, they're just for looks. i don't like veilside, their bodykits look too crazy. but i do like c-west and bomex.
reddsun1 Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 The other thing that I find stupid as hell is people that put badges from cars that aren't even made from the company they put them on, especially when the badge is from a high-performance vehicle when the car is no where near a high performance car. The other day I saw a Corolla with a GT-R badge on it. I wouldn't even put a GT-R badge on my car, and mine's actually a Nissan! Haven't seen it often [thankfully], but I get a good chuckle to meself when I see a Chevy Cobalt go by, with Ford/Mustang-style racing stripes across the top and on the rocker panels.
reddsun1 Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 Interesting little tidbit I found when I looked more into the Bizzarini GT mentioned earlier. Apparently, this same fellow had a hand in the design/construction of prototypes for this little "Supercar that never was" And from AMC, of all places. Was apparently designed and nearly ready to hit the market almost a year before the Pantera, but was killed by the company beancounters. The front end has a very subtle "Mach 5" look to it... There seems to be a following amongst AMC fans. Some are even trying to produce replicas. What strikes me as odd though is: why would you try to reproduce so faithfully a car that was known to be fairly unstable at high speeds? "...Testing results started to come in from BMW and Turin Polytech. BMW proclaimed the body assembly (a boxed sill backbone structure) one of the most rigid structures that they had ever tested. Speed runs were limited to 160 M.P.H. due to body lifting because of the lack of a front spoiler."
reddsun1 Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) I kinda like the '64 AC Coupe. well, except for those things at the tops of the wheel arches. otherwise, a rather sexy beast... edit: the front end appears to be "one piece" design for the major structure. My God, can you imagine the amount of time and skill it must have taken to form that? Edited June 4, 2009 by reddsun1
DJ Loe Kee Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 Interesting little tidbit I found when I looked more into the Bizzarini GT mentioned earlier. Apparently, this same fellow had a hand in the design/construction of prototypes for this little "Supercar that never was" And from AMC, of all places. Was apparently designed and nearly ready to hit the market almost a year before the Pantera, but was killed by the company beancounters. The front end has a very subtle "Mach 5" look to it... There seems to be a following amongst AMC fans. Some are even trying to produce replicas. What strikes me as odd though is: why would you try to reproduce so faithfully a car that was known to be fairly unstable at high speeds? "...Testing results started to come in from BMW and Turin Polytech. BMW proclaimed the body assembly (a boxed sill backbone structure) one of the most rigid structures that they had ever tested. Speed runs were limited to 160 M.P.H. due to body lifting because of the lack of a front spoiler." maybe they couldn't afford their own private jet???
Beltane70 Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 I even remember once seeing a Civic with an SE-R badge on it. I mean I guess it's possible that he put the engine of a Sentra or Altimas engine in the Civic, but why would you even do that instead of putting in or keeping the engine from a Civic Si?
Vostok 7 Posted June 5, 2009 Posted June 5, 2009 Haven't seen it often [thankfully], but I get a good chuckle to meself when I see a Chevy Cobalt go by, with Ford/Mustang-style racing stripes across the top and on the rocker panels. Um, those are called "Rallye Stripes" and they certainly didn't start with Ford nor the Mustang... Vostok 7
Vince Posted June 5, 2009 Posted June 5, 2009 I even remember once seeing a Civic with an SE-R badge on it. I mean I guess it's possible that he put the engine of a Sentra or Altimas engine in the Civic, but why would you even do that instead of putting in or keeping the engine from a Civic Si? I once saw Audi with an 'M' on it, it that really true the more stickers you got the more power you have?
DJ Loe Kee Posted June 5, 2009 Posted June 5, 2009 I once saw Audi with an 'M' on it, it that really true the more stickers you got the more power you have? +3hp for every sticker lol.
Agent ONE Posted June 5, 2009 Posted June 5, 2009 I kinda like the '64 AC Coupe. well, except for those things at the tops of the wheel arches. otherwise, a rather sexy beast... edit: the front end appears to be "one piece" design for the major structure. My God, can you imagine the amount of time and skill it must have taken to form that? That thing is awesome.
Retracting Head Ter Ter Posted June 5, 2009 Posted June 5, 2009 I once saw Audi with an 'M' on it, it that really true the more stickers you got the more power you have? Can't beat this BMW I once saw with a 'W'* on it. Yes, it was a W318i. *Yes, he put it on upside down...
DJ Loe Kee Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 (edited) Post some examples. it's all personal preference. i like bomex http://bomexaeroco.com/bomex/index.php http://www.bomex.jp/index.jsp (everybody copies there designs so you've probably seen some ricer with a cheap bomex knockoff). c-west http://www.c-westusa.com http://www.c-west.co.jp/index.html gp sports http://www.gpsports.co.jp their bodykits for the 180sx's, silvia s13's, silvia s14's and silvia s15's are the ones i pay attention for. i won't post pics 'cause i can't guarantee that you will like what i want on my next 240sx project car. a 240sx with lazy eyes and a bodykit looks so sexy to me. ^bodykit maker unknown a 240sx u.s. version (the 96-98 kouki factory taillights, underbody spoilers and wing looks tight but the u.s. didn't get this model) looks so plain w/o a bodykit. i want to full c-west bodykit, hood and carbon-fiber wing (a wing that actually creates downforce) (that's after i do a sr20det engine swap, add 300zx brakes, add a coilover set, add a lsd and other engine upgrades). so lets end the debate. i like what i like and you like what you like. veilside has the ugly bodykits (my opinion, some ppl like their crazy, off the wall designs. fact, veilside sold more bodykits once they want with crazy designs vs. the simple, conservative designs that bomex, c-west, gp sports and others use). i do like veilside rims tho'. http://www.veilside.com http://www.veilside.co.jp Edited June 6, 2009 by DJ Loe Kee
areaseven Posted June 6, 2009 Author Posted June 6, 2009 Not really a fan of the Carrera GT, but this makes me forget about the fugly Panamera. 2009 Gemballa Mirage GT Carbon Edition
Agent ONE Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 (edited) it's all personal preference. i like bomex ... ^bodykit maker unknown a 240sx u.s. version (the 96-98 kouki factory taillights, underbody spoilers and wing looks tight but the u.s. didn't get this model) looks so plain w/o a bodykit. i want to full c-west bodykit, hood and carbon-fiber wing (a wing that actually creates downforce) (that's after i do a sr20det engine swap, add 300zx brakes, add a coilover set, add a lsd and other engine upgrades). so lets end the debate. i like what i like and you like what you like. veilside has the ugly bodykits (my opinion, some ppl like their crazy, off the wall designs. fact, veilside sold more bodykits once they want with crazy designs vs. the simple, conservative designs that bomex, c-west, gp sports and others use). i do like veilside rims tho'. http://www.veilside.com http://www.veilside.co.jp Dude, no. First of all they are all uglier than stock, or equal I guess in some cases... (like that black one you posted... not ugly but not great either) You are talking about downforce... Seriously man, the cars that these kits are made for do NOT need downforce. This is something that many casual race fans don't understand. DOWNFORCE IS DRAG UNLESS YOU ARE LITERALLY ON THE EDGE OF FLYING OFF OF THE ROAD. Most of these kits which include all this downforce are economy cars. The last thing they need is downforce. EDIT: to take out the images so A7 doesn't mail me a bomb. Edited June 6, 2009 by Agent ONE
DJ Loe Kee Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 (edited) Dude, no. First of all they are all uglier than stock, or equal I guess in some cases... (like that black one you posted... not ugly but not great either) You are talking about downforce... Seriously man, the cars that these kits are made for do NOT need downforce. This is something that many casual race fans don't understand. DOWNFORCE IS DRAG UNLESS YOU ARE LITERALLY ON THE EDGE OF FLYING OFF OF THE ROAD. Most of these kits which include all this downforce are economy cars. The last thing they need is downforce. EDIT: to take out the images so A7 doesn't mail me a bomb. whatever. like i said, what is ugly to you is not ugly to me. um, those bodykits ard used in JGTC (Japan Grand Touring Car Championship & Silvia's are raced in the GT300 category. next time don't get involved in a subject or country that you know nothing about). something that you don't understand is that those wings and kits and actually used on race cars (and they sell them to the public to fund their race "toys") http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&saf...s=1244302361047 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=J...s=1244302770448 and creating a bodykit that doesn't create downforce is plain stupid. look at nascar, they don't use the bodykits that come from the ford, gm or chrysler factory. they have custom body kits. debate over. i won't respond to you anymore whether you think my taste in cars is acceptable to you or not. Edited June 6, 2009 by DJ Loe Kee
areaseven Posted June 6, 2009 Author Posted June 6, 2009 look at nascar, they don't use the bodykits that come from the ford, gm or chrysler factory. they have custom body kits. Actually, NASCAR does not use body kits. The stock cars use use one-piece body shells designed to look like a production car. And if you're referring to the "Car of Tomorrow", diffuser fins and spoilers do not make a body kit.
DJ Loe Kee Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 (edited) Dude, no. First of all they are all uglier than stock, or equal I guess in some cases... (like that black one you posted... not ugly but not great either) You are talking about downforce... Seriously man, the cars that these kits are made for do NOT need downforce. This is something that many casual race fans don't understand. DOWNFORCE IS DRAG UNLESS YOU ARE LITERALLY ON THE EDGE OF FLYING OFF OF THE ROAD. Most of these kits which include all this downforce are economy cars. The last thing they need is downforce. EDIT: to take out the images so A7 doesn't mail me a bomb. i'm talking about a wing that actually functions. you can tilt the wing in one direction to increase its top speed or you can tilt the wing in the other direction to increase its handling (an adjustable wing, not fixed spoiler). you adjust the wing differently for every race course and what attributes you are striving for. it's not all about downforce. Edited June 6, 2009 by DJ Loe Kee
DJ Loe Kee Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 (edited) Actually, NASCAR does not use body kits. The stock cars use use one-piece body shells designed to look like a production car. And if you're referring to the "Car of Tomorrow", diffuser fins and spoilers do not make a body kit. i don't even know what the "car of tomorrow" is and you can tell that i don't watch nascar. but whenever i do turn on nascar, i never recognize the cars. i can't even tell what company the are from. i did knew that they were one piece body shells, but i referred to them as bodykits (oops, wrong terminlogy, my bad). Edited June 6, 2009 by DJ Loe Kee
Beltane70 Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 Here's something annoying: Today I went to change a tire on my car only to discover that I had the wrong key for the wheel locks on my car. I guess its partially my fault for not actually checking to see if the key that I found in the glove compartment when I bought the car (used) matched the wheel locks on each wheel. What's really beyond me, however, is why the key and locks are different, anyway.
Agent ONE Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 whatever. like i said, what is ugly to you is not ugly to me. um, those bodykits ard used in JGTC (Japan Grand Touring Car Championship & Silvia's are raced in the GT300 category. next time don't get involved in a subject or country that you know nothing about). something that you don't understand is that those wings and kits and actually used on race cars (and they sell them to the public to fund their race "toys") http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&saf...s=1244302361047 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=J...s=1244302770448 and creating a bodykit that doesn't create downforce is plain stupid. look at nascar, they don't use the bodykits that come from the ford, gm or chrysler factory. they have custom body kits. debate over. i won't respond to you anymore whether you think my taste in cars is acceptable to you or not. You didn't need to get so mad I didn't realize you would take it personally. Sorry. You did prove my point though or at least we agree... Those race cars don't have stock engines therefore they need bodywork that creates more downforce.
myk Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 Here's something annoying: Today I went to change a tire on my car only to discover that I had the wrong key for the wheel locks on my car. I guess its partially my fault for not actually checking to see if the key that I found in the glove compartment when I bought the car (used) matched the wheel locks on each wheel. What's really beyond me, however, is why the key and locks are different, anyway. What I like is when the tire place either loses or mismatches you with the wrong key...
Vince Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 You didn't need to get so mad I didn't realize you would take it personally. Sorry. You did prove my point though or at least we agree... Those race cars don't have stock engines therefore they need bodywork that creates more downforce. I'll have to agree with you that the veilside kits are a bit over the top, I especially dislike the front bumper since the first version but that is a personal opinon. Agent One, no need to get upset, some of us who drive imports do like to rice out their 'rides', let them enjoy themselves. My roadster will stay looking stock, I rather put money in to turning and the w an y rated tries are stupid expensive.
DJ Loe Kee Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) a rather plain looking silvia s15. Being the owner of AP Boss, Fujioka has several cars in his stable. Having a long history with the Silvias, keeping one on hand for testing new products or motor break-ins is imperative. Right after Fujioka sold his white S15 he quickly decided another one had to be built in its place. "Having both success in time attacks and drifting, we wanted to build a test bed for our engine program. We feel that the engine in this car can be well-suited for both drifting and circuit. Our main focus is having an adequate amount of power as well as response." Having just over 400whp is definitely all that one would need on the drift and time attack circuits. Underneath the SR20DET gets the full Toda 2.2L stroker kit treatment, a 92mm stroke crankshaft, 87mm pistons and forged connecting rods. Up above, the head gets a top-off with a set of JUN camshafts, tuned with a set of the infamous purple HKS gears. An HKS 30ProS 56T turbo is mounted via a tubular Boss manifold. A Boss intake manifold sits on the other side of the head, with a set of LAP (Boss' product brand) injectors, all helping to achieve that remarkable 438ps. One of the more particular parts on the car, no not the 6-speed NISMO transmission, is the Yashio Factory pink radiator. I've often wondered what's the deal with these units. Boss tells us that copper cores make for better radiators than aluminum cores. Although aluminum end tanks are more durable, plastic ones will do just fine for the car's purpose. The more efficient decapitation of heat through the copper core was more desired over the aluminum versions. Fast Facts 2001 Nissan Silvia Spec-R (S15) Owner: Kazuhiro Fujioka Hometown: Nagano-Shi, Japan Daily Grind: Gangster and owner of auto produce bossPower 438ps Under The Hood: 2.0L SR20DET; Toda Racing 8.4:1 87mm pistons, rods and 92mm 2.2L crankshaft; JUN camshafts; Auto Produce Boss 70mm intake manifold, turbo manifold, intercooler piping, NVCS adjustable cam pulley and Type II 90mm titanium exhaust; Z32 MAF; LAP 850cc injectors; Nissan R32 GT-R fuel pump; Blitz filter; Nissan Pulsar N15 70mm throttle body; HKS cam gears and 30ProS 56T turbo; Yashio Factory catalytic converter, Tenka ignition and copper core radiator; NGK R7434-8 spark plugs; NISMO engine mounts Drivetrain: NISMO 6-speed transmission and copper mix clutch Brains: Blitz SBC i-Color boost controller Stiff Stuff: Prodrive coilovers; NISMO bushings Rollers: 18x9.5" +15 Prodrive GC-07J (front/rear); 255/35R18 Bridgestone RE-11 (front), 265/35R18 Bridgestone RE-11 (rear) Stoppers: Factory aluminum 4-piston front and 2-piston rear calipers Outside: GP Sports body kit; Spec-R spoiler Inside: Bride Gias-II seats and upholstered door panels; Blitz gauges; Prodrive harness and horn button; Vertex steering wheel; Yashio Factory shift knob Props: Phi Phung, you know you love the scene! WWW: apboss.com; blitzperformancesales.com; hksusa.com; junauto.co.jp; more-japan.com (Bride); todaracing.com http://www.superstreetonline.com/featuredv...ec_r/index.html Edited June 9, 2009 by DJ Loe Kee
Agent ONE Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 What is the consensus on "drift?" YLM says drift is the "rhythmic gymnastics" of auto sports. I say drift is the retarded stepchild of roller-derby and gay porn. Seriously, its so stupid. Good cars DON'T DRIFT. Millions upon millions a year are spend by engineers to keep cars from breaking traction. Now there is a sport where you are supposed to break traction. Its like you need to make your car worse so it can do better at this.
areaseven Posted June 9, 2009 Author Posted June 9, 2009 Fiat to Drop Chrysler Brand? By all means, please do so, Mr. Marchionne. You'll be doing us a great favor.
DJ Loe Kee Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 What is the consensus on "drift?" YLM says drift is the "rhythmic gymnastics" of auto sports. I say drift is the retarded stepchild of roller-derby and gay porn. Seriously, its so stupid. Good cars DON'T DRIFT. Millions upon millions a year are spend by engineers to keep cars from breaking traction. Now there is a sport where you are supposed to break traction. Its like you need to make your car worse so it can do better at this. it's actually hard to learn. i've never drifted in real life (there are no race tracks to drift here. and don't street drift kids.) but it took me a couple of days to figure out how to drift in gran turismo 4. http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=57146 http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=72878 http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/t-21809.html i see it more as a "style and presentation sport" like olympic diving and olympic gymnastics. it's not in the same league as olympic swimming (racing) and olympic track & field but it's still fun to watch. i have an old option vhs tape that shows "illegal" street drifting in the rain on japanese streets at night. a car would lose control every now but all of the other cars would just "drift" around him instead of crashing into the car. the pros in d1gp build their cars for traction. beginners are the ones who build their cars to lose traction and put "used balding tires" on their rear tires. and it comes in handy when in circuit racing in gt4. i might take a curve too fast and i hit the grass. the grass causes my car to lose traction and spin in circles. put i use my drifting techniques to to keep my car sliding sidewards instead of spinning in endless circles and i get right back on the track. depending on how far ahead i was, the cars involved, which lap it was and what parts i have equipped; i can still catch the other cars and win the race. not always tho', that is if i get lucky ('cause usually you have to drive a perfect race in order to win some of the higher level races). drifing began as "illegal" time attacks down lonely mountain roads in japan. loosing traction was taboo. but after a couple of years, it became acceptable to lose traction in a turn and gain traction right back. slowly, it became acceptable to lose traction for longer and longer periods of time. then, somebody figured out that they could take multiple winding mountain turns (like s-curves) without traction. so, drifting was actually born out of "illegal" night racing on the mountain roads in japan. you can blame superstreet for telling the u.s. about drifting. http://www.superstreetonline.com/index.html my first superstreet that i bought (June 2002/Weird Science: 730hp Skyline-Powered Top Secret Supra [rb26dett]/Drift 101: Get Schooled, Get Sideways, Get It Together, Man/Japan's Top Drifters) had 10-20 pages dedicated to drifting. this was also the issue that first introduced me to the Nissan Silvia S15 (and how to turn a 240sx into a turbo-powered 180sx/silvia). this guy is retired professional race car driver (JGTC & D1GP [D1 Grand Prix - the top professional drift competition in Japan and it is extremely popular over there.), "Drift King" Keiichi Tsuchiya. watch him drift a "old american hotrod?!?" around two people w/o injuring them. on another note, i heard that the japanese suspended his driving license for some driving/drifting violation (this was after he tired from professional racing and drifting). Fiat to Drop Chrysler Brand? By all means, please do so, Mr. Marchionne. You'll be doing us a great favor. so that means that only dodge and jeep would be left??? dodge has most of the sports cars anyways. what's goin' to happen to viper, are they still trying to sell it or drop it completely? i like the ford gt40 anyways so it really don't care about the viper.
myk Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 What is the consensus on "drift?" YLM says drift is the "rhythmic gymnastics" of auto sports. I say drift is the retarded stepchild of roller-derby and gay porn. Seriously, its so stupid. Good cars DON'T DRIFT. Millions upon millions a year are spend by engineers to keep cars from breaking traction. Now there is a sport where you are supposed to break traction. Its like you need to make your car worse so it can do better at this. To me drifting is, like someone else here said, an exhibition sport. I do admire a drifter's ability to make a car do something that it really isn't supposed to and in a controlled manner, but only up to a point. I don't think drifting is "great," but personally speaking I'll take drifting over drag-racing or NASCAR any day of the week. No offense to anyone who likes that stuff, but you wanna' talk stupid there're two examples right there; driving in a circle or a straight line really really REALLY fast. Wow... The only car-sport-event I could really give a damn about would be Trans-Am/SCCA/road-course/auto-x racing, or whatever you call it. If you want a true test and display of man and machine it's gonna' be there; certainly not strictly driving in circles, lines or around traffic cones...
DJ Loe Kee Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 professional japanese tuners like to have a company color for all of their cars. top secret has gold. http://www.topsecretjpn.com signal auto has a reddish/orange. http://www.signalauto.co.jp http://www.signalauto.co.jp/USAindex.html http://www.signalauto.com http://www.signalautousa.com yashio factory went with pink. Fast Facts Car: '92 Nissan 240SX Owner: Yashio Factory Hometown: Saitama, Japan Daily Grind: Tuning Silvias, 180SXs, and 240SXs Under The Hood: SR20DET (404 hp @ 6,800 rpm and 369lb-ft torque at 4,600 rpm/4,600 rpm at 1.4 bar of boost), JUN reinforcement 3mm sleeve, HKS step 2 camshafts (256 degrees intake/264 degrees exhaust), 0.2mm oversized pistons, 1.2mm metal gasket, SRS turbo, oil coloer, racing air cleaner, Yashio Factory original turbo header, front pipe, titanium exhaust, Super radiator, KA to SR wiring harness, Nismo 550cc injectors and fuel pump, Z32 airflow meter Transmission: Nismo copper mix clutch and 6 speed transmission Stiff Stuff: Nismo rear member arm adapted from S15 factory parts, Yashio Factory original coilovers Rollers: Advan TC2 wheels 18x9.5 +24 offset front and 18x10.5 +14 offset rear, Yokohama Neova tires 235/40R18 front and 255/35R18 rear Stoppers: Endless 6-pot calipers and NAR pads, R34 type M rear disc and calipers Outside: Yashio GT aero kit: front bumber, front and rear fenders, side steps, rear bumper, carbon-fiber cooling hood, GT wing, pink paint Inside: Bride Brix racing seats No, we didn't accidentally run these images backwards. This magnificent pink specimen started life as a U.S.-spec 240SX, not a Japanese 180SX. So if you had your comments on why the car is left-hand drive, log off your user-name, we just answered your question. So if it's a 240SX, there's a turbo KA24DE under the hood, right? What we never, or very rarely see, is a tuner like Yashio Factory shipping a U.S. car to Japan and building it to their specs. That's right, Okamura-san found a 240SX in Japan, swapped in an SR20DET, and built the hell out of it. Super Street - September 2003 http://www.yashiofactory.co.jp/
areaseven Posted June 10, 2009 Author Posted June 10, 2009 The same people who designed the original Shelby Daytona are back with a modern take of the race-winning coupe. 2009 Superformance Shelby Daytona Cobra Coupe Superformance has also released the latest version of their Shelby Cobra replica. 2009 Superformance MKIII And here's their replica of the legendary Ford GT40 Mk. I. 2009 Superformance GT40 Mk1
emajnthis Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 To me drifting is, like someone else here said, an exhibition sport. I do admire a drifter's ability to make a car do something that it really isn't supposed to and in a controlled manner, but only up to a point. I don't think drifting is "great," but personally speaking I'll take drifting over drag-racing or NASCAR any day of the week. No offense to anyone who likes that stuff, but you wanna' talk stupid there're two examples right there; driving in a circle or a straight line really really REALLY fast. Wow... The only car-sport-event I could really give a damn about would be Trans-Am/SCCA/road-course/auto-x racing, or whatever you call it. If you want a true test and display of man and machine it's gonna' be there; certainly not strictly driving in circles, lines or around traffic cones... Let's not forget WRC, that takes some real balls to do. When you think about it, it has a little element of everything involved in one sport. Ridiculously boosted cars; some elements of drifting; and of course going very very fast (but no circle jerk like nascar) in the dirt/snow/rain/mud/etc. etc. I love watching WRC too, the drivers aim to please it seems, lots of cursing, digging themselves out of mud pits and snow holes and one race i remember Gronholm doing a 720 in a hairpin turn as a crowd pleaser right in the middle of a race.
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