Gubaba Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 So at this point which company involved in or having the rights to Southern Cross have the best chance of bringing it back in some form in the future? If you know an eccentric billionaire who would be willing to donate 10~20 million to Big West to create a sequel, that's probably your only chance. Quote
kamikaze_kamujin Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 If they adapt the show for a Robotech Live Action II it has a chance. They just have to redesign the mechas, get some cool actors and more dynamism to the scripts Quote
taksraven Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) If you know an eccentric billionaire who would be willing to donate 10~20 million to Big West to create a sequel, that's probably your only chance. And even bribing them with that much money you would probably STILL have to make them do it at gunpoint. Taksraven Edited January 27, 2009 by taksraven Quote
Einherjar Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 A CollectionDX review of the Matchbox Spartas/Veritech Hover Tank: http://www.collectiondx.com/node/3447 Quote
505thAirborne Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 If they adapt the show for a Robotech Live Action II it has a chance. They just have to redesign the mechas, get some cool actors and more dynamism to the scripts For that to to happen, the 1st Live Robotech movie has to be a success. Though I grew up with Robotech as a kid & loved it, I'm not holding my breath on these films yet... But only time will tell. Quote
kamikaze_kamujin Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Do you think that is so difficult? With a known name, a budget of over U$S 100 millions, aircrafts which transforms into robots, motorcycles which transforms into armors, some known actors and this aint going to have the bland writers from the 1986-2006 failed sequels Quote
CoryHolmes Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 For that to to happen, the 1st Live Robotech movie has to be a success. Though I grew up with Robotech as a kid & loved it, I'm not holding my breath on these films yet... But only time will tell. Agreed on all counts. What Robotech really needs is a new TV series, retelling the story right from the beginning. There's just too much story and characters to cram into any one film (or even three films). Quote
taksraven Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Agreed on all counts. What Robotech really needs is a new TV series, retelling the story right from the beginning. There's just too much story and characters to cram into any one film (or even three films). MORE Robotech?? Congratulations on having the guts to say that. Taksraven Quote
kamikaze_kamujin Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 They need fresh money first, because with the cheap writers and animators they have now, they are going nowhere Quote
Einherjar Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Can it even be called Southern Cross, or even the Master's Saga, if they're forced to make a lot of changes for legal and thematic reasons? Quote
kamikaze_kamujin Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 they dont have problems with using anything from Southern Cross, only Macross. The company which did Southern Cross is a partner of the company which did Robotech, they gave to the company which did Robotech everything to use in Robotech sequels such as designs for Robotech The Sentinels, and they splitted profits in the past. Besides they will be so happy of getting money of a 25 years old dead series Quote
Vifam7 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) they dont have problems with using anything from Southern Cross, only Macross. The company which did Southern Cross is a partner of the company which did Robotech, they gave to the company which did Robotech everything to use in Robotech sequels such as designs for Robotech The Sentinels, and they splitted profits in the past. Besides they will be so happy of getting money of a 25 years old dead series Southern Cross failed in Japan and it's the least popular arc of the Robotech series. You have to ask yourself why any company would want to take interest in ressurrecting (and spending money on) a 25yr old dead, failed, and unpopular anime series. Edited January 27, 2009 by Vifam7 Quote
kamikaze_kamujin Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 It doesnt matter if it isnt popular in Japan. If Robotech live action succeeds, it's could just be an excuse to make a transformable mecha movie under a known name which by itself it's a good enough reason. And they dont have to stick completely to its mecha designs, they could even add that variable Sylphide people was posting before, or other new cooler adapted transformable aircrafts. Quote
taksraven Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 .... a 25yr old dead, failed, and unpopular anime series. Definitely No Love for Southern Cross. Are there any other anime programs with an anti-fanbase like Southern Cross? Taksraven Quote
Einherjar Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) Definitely No Love for Southern Cross. Are there any other anime programs with an anti-fanbase like Southern Cross? Taksraven I thought the Robotech vs. everything else in existence fandom was an infamous example. It's too time consuming and exhausting to be anti-anything all the time. Edited January 27, 2009 by Einherjar Quote
505thAirborne Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 The best way to revive Southern Cross if anyone really wanted to, is buy the rights to the story and basic ideas. Mecha and characters. And then go through some serious redesigns, revamp the story and how its told. Much like a government issued program, if its not working dump it, same thing with S.C., what ever really truly made the series that bad for viewers, delete it and rewrite new and impressive filler. (For example the notion that the 3 mounds in the wilderness are remains of the SDF-1, 86 that one!!) But again, someone would really want to have invest $$$$ in this series. Even in 1985 when I was 9 y/o I thought that S.C. was so-so and that it could have been better. Quote
kamikaze_kamujin Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Even more, with the Macross issues is more likely Southern Cross has more room in the Robotech story than in the original series, perhaps like they did in the Robotech comics, with bioroids onboard the space fortress and stuff like that. Not mentioning Zor in a Robotech movie would be like not mentioning Cybertron in the Transformers live action. It's the same for the Robotech Masters and all that relates to Southern Cross, their vessels, their society, etc. Quote
Roger Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 My suggestions for making a new Southern Cross: - Replace the lackluster transforming tanks and helicopters with nifty transforming jets and motorcycles. - Remove the boring old men aliens and instead add cool giant crab aliens. - Change the story from a tale of angsty army teenagers and turn it into a tale about a group of freedom fighters roaming the countryside. Then you have a start. ;p (Seriously, we're going to see another Dorvack series before we see more Southern Cross.) Quote
505thAirborne Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 My suggestions for making a new Southern Cross: - Replace the lackluster transforming tanks and helicopters with nifty transforming jets and motorcycles. - Remove the boring old men aliens and instead add cool giant crab aliens. - Change the story from a tale of angsty army teenagers and turn it into a tale about a group of freedom fighters roaming the countryside. Then you have a start. ;p (Seriously, we're going to see another Dorvack series before we see more Southern Cross.) "So what your saying is, let me see here"..... "Ahhhhh, I got it!! another MOSPEADA!!!!!!!!!!" Quote
Roger Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 "So what your saying is, let me see here"..... "Ahhhhh, I got it!! another MOSPEADA!!!!!!!!!!" Uh, no. Quote
jenius Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 If I'm not mistaken, there's a rights issues with the designs of the Southern Cross mechs. That's why we didn't see any in Shadow Chronicles when the crew was going through space station liberty's hangar. The Sentinels existed in a different legal time and deals have happened and cases filed since then. Quote
505thAirborne Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Sure sounded like you were describing Mospeada to me..... Quote
505thAirborne Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 If I'm not mistaken, there's a rights issues with the designs of the Southern Cross mechs. That's why we didn't see any in Shadow Chronicles when the crew was going through space station liberty's hangar. The Sentinels existed in a different legal time and deals have happened and cases filed since then. All these licenses & copyrights, what a mess!!!!!!! Quote
kamikaze_kamujin Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 I've read differently, that they did so because they wanted to stick to Mospeada Was this already posted? http://spaceship.brainiac.com/Misc7/FS-bunkerhill.jpg Quote
Ginrai Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 There are no rights issues with Southern Cross. The show was created entirely in house by Tatsunoko and they have full undisputed international rights, not just to distributing, but everything. Quote
RavenHawk Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 My suggestions for making a new Southern Cross: - Replace the lackluster transforming tanks and helicopters with nifty transforming jets and motorcycles. - Remove the boring old men aliens and instead add cool giant crab aliens. - Change the story from a tale of angsty army teenagers and turn it into a tale about a group of freedom fighters roaming the countryside. Then you have a start. ;p (Seriously, we're going to see another Dorvack series before we see more Southern Cross.) I agree. In all fairness, Roger, I pretty much agree everything should be made into MOSPEADA. Quote
RavenHawk Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Southern Cross failed in Japan and it's the least popular arc of the Robotech series. You have to ask yourself why any company would want to take interest in ressurrecting (and spending money on) a 25yr old dead, failed, and unpopular anime series. Good point. Keep in mind, whether you liked the games or not, they made Robotech: Battlecry based on Macross, and then skipped right over Southern Cross to base Robotech: Invasion on MOSPEADA. Quote
kamikaze_kamujin Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 yes, but they cant do that to tell the Robotech story, unless they follow with Sentinesl which has pretty much Southern Cross material on it Quote
Vifam7 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) Definitely No Love for Southern Cross. Are there any other anime programs with an anti-fanbase like Southern Cross? Taksraven I wouldn't say there's an anti-fanbase for Southern Cross. More like disinterest. But... MD Geist has an anti-fanbase! I think the whole entire anime fandom hates it. Hmmm... yet MD Geist did have a sequel so I guess it's not totally out of realm for a Southern Cross sequel or remake. Edited January 28, 2009 by Vifam7 Quote
RavenHawk Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 I wouldn't say there's an anti-fanbase for Southern Cross. More like disinterest. But... MD Geist has an anti-fanbase! I think the whole entire anime fandom hates it. Hmmm... yet MD Geist did have a sequel so I guess it's not totally out of realm for a Southern Cross sequel or remake. Just doesn't seem likely. Heck, MOSPEADA was just as popular, if not more, and barely had a sequel (Love, Live, Alive I believe it was), and the creators have recently said there's no chance of a new sequel. Quote
Roger Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 There are no rights issues with Southern Cross. The show was created entirely in house by Tatsunoko and they have full undisputed international rights, not just to distributing, but everything. Tatsunoko has the rights to license the animation, but Big West purchased the merchandising rights from them a while back. Quote
Gubaba Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 I wouldn't say there's an anti-fanbase for Southern Cross. More like disinterest. But... MD Geist has an anti-fanbase! I think the whole entire anime fandom hates it. Hmmm... yet MD Geist did have a sequel so I guess it's not totally out of realm for a Southern Cross sequel or remake. I'd say there's probably at least much apathy directed towards Galvion or Yamato 2520 than there is towards Southern Cross. Hell, I've just typed the word "Galvion" more times in the last minute or so than anyone else has since the creation of the internet. And I'll do it again: "Galvion." Mentioned three times in one post...that's gotta be a world record. Quote
Tober Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 I'd say there's probably at least much apathy directed towards Galvion or Yamato 2520 than there is towards Southern Cross. Hell, I've just typed the word "Galvion" more times in the last minute or so than anyone else has since the creation of the internet. And I'll do it again: "Galvion." Mentioned three times in one post...that's gotta be a world record. Ok, I'll bite. What was so bad about it? I just Googled it and watched the intro, it didn't look that bad. There was a really expensive toy from Dorvack announced recently too, the one that became Roadbuster in Transformers. http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ue4w-UorA0 Quote
Roger Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 I'd say there's probably at least much apathy directed towards Galvion or Yamato 2520 than there is towards Southern Cross. Hell, I've just typed the word "Galvion" more times in the last minute or so than anyone else has since the creation of the internet. And I'll do it again: "Galvion." Mentioned three times in one post...that's gotta be a world record. Sorry: http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,75051,75051 Quote
Roger Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Ok, I'll bite. What was so bad about it? After the "LONELY CHAAASEEAAAAHHHH!" theme it really goes downhill. The animation is incredibly lousy and most of the the episodes tell standalone tales rather than a continuous story (Southern Cross gets points for this). Like Dorvack, It feels a lot like watching MASK. Quote
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