Dangard Ace Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Just find out the detail to modify VF-25S neck, but can't directly change to fighter mode. Does anyone want to try? http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/damien_sancho/57324394.html That's it? A revoltech joint? Easy as pie. Just need to find a double jointed joint now.
UN Spacy Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Good ol' Revoltech joints. Is thee anything they CAN'T fix? Seriously though....they were giving away free Revoltech joints at last years SDCC (in the Kaiyodo booth). The person working there was pretty furious after he saw some idiot taking handfulls upon handfulls of free replacement joints.
miriya Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Just find out the detail to modify VF-25S neck, but can't directly change to fighter mode. Does anyone want to try? http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/damien_sancho/57324394.html That looks like a revoltech joint but like two of them put together. Is that what it is? EDIT: sorry I was writing this at the same time as the both of you? Edited January 14, 2009 by miriya
Dangard Ace Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Good ol' Revoltech joints. Is there anything they CAN'T fix? Seriously though....they were giving away free Revoltech joints at last years SDCC (in the Kaiyodo booth). I know. I was there. Got I think 3 orange packs and 2 revoltech "pliers". Don't know if the joint packs had the double joints though.... The person working there was pretty furious after he saw some idiot taking handfulls upon handfulls of free replacement joints. I blame *insert legendarly infamous blamed mod name here* :lol:
BoBe-Patt Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 I know. I was there. Got I think 3 orange packs and 2 revoltech "pliers". Don't know if the joint packs had the double joints though.... I blame *insert legendarly infamous blamed mod name here* :lol: haha, I only grabbed 5 each day I was there. So I think I have at least two of each color.
Dangard Ace Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 haha, I only grabbed 5 each day I was there. So I think I have at least two of each color. When the hell did you find time to grab 5 each day with all that other swag you were grabbing/buying?!
badboy00z Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Now if only someone can fix the hip location...
Valkyrie addict Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 great mod, certainly makes the DX stand tall on what it really is.... now for the hip mod
MasterOfPuppets Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Just a double jointed Revoltech joint eh? I think I have an extra white one that came with Ultra Magnus.
Cent Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 With the head mod though, wont the head stick up in fighter?
VFTF1 Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Sweet. Yotsuba has an extra double-Revoltech joint that serves no real purpose (well - it sort of does come in handy for when you want her to be extra bendy)... But - yeah - I'm sure a joint will be found to use... Although - I don't know why I'm excited about this. I NEVER mod ANY of my figures. I like to have them "as is" since all of my adventures in modding (long time ago - dark past) have ended in tragedy (the greatest tragedy being when I used an acid-based paint thinner to try to get the paint off of my laser rod Prime and ended up litterly watching as the stuff ATE through him :0 Pete
BoBe-Patt Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 When the hell did you find time to grab 5 each day with all that other swag you were grabbing/buying?! haha, the revoltech booth was always on the to where ever I needed to go buy stuff. EXO got more than I did!
TCracker Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 With the head mod though, wont the head stick up in fighter? Yeah, what Cent said. Will the head have to swap out the additional part during transformation to Fighter/Gerwalk mode?
jenius Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Please visit my site and read my review As always, feedback is greatly appreciated... especially if you notice any flub-ups or something I missed.
UN Spacy Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Before I start reading.....thanks for the review jenius!
Cent Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Uh.. I just skimmed it but shouldnt it be 38.5/50? Its out of 45 for some reason?
jenius Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Yes, yes it should be. I think that's my big clue that I haven't been sleeping enough lately. Website corrected... I better crash. Thanks for catching that.
Cent Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 I read it, and I'm grateful for the review, and the pictures were very informative. Mostly though, it reconfirmed the things I was already thinking about the DX... But Im surprised that you didn't deduct more points for the flood of big flaws mentioned in the design category. Issues like that were heavy penalties to the scores of Yamatos, but I guess this is being reviewed in the context that its intended as more chunky-monkey toy.
Graham Posted January 15, 2009 Author Posted January 15, 2009 The neck mod looks good and simple. Does anybody know which (if any) Revoltech toys come with the correct color double joint to use for the VF-25S neck. Will pick up the Revoltech to canabalise for the joint, once I know which one. Graham
TCracker Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Great review jenius. you just convinced me to get Ozma. With the neck mod posted here, I have no reason not to get him. Thanks heaps!
edwin3060 Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) Great review Jenius! I posted some comments on your site. Also, opposite to TCracker, your review convinced me not to get Ozuma hehe... I think the bendy head lasers are just too much for me. Also, the DX looks wayy better without the ankles extended, the proportions, while not anime accurate, look more natural that way (and since we are already sacrificing so much accuracy in other areas, might as well go with something that looks good). Ultimately, fighter still looks to be the nicest mode to me. Edit: I think you made a mistake with your comment about the same chest and back plates for the -25S and F. The chest plate is clearly different from your photos, given that the -25S has 2 bumps for the additional sensors. I think that looking at the model kit gives us a better explanation of why the head sits so low-- which is the collar piece (which is different for the -25S and F model kits). Some kitbuilders who used the -F collar piece instead of the -S collar piece ended up with the same neckless VF-25S. I suspect the same problem is occuring with the DX-25S Edited January 15, 2009 by edwin3060
GGemini Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) The neck mod looks good and simple. Does anybody know which (if any) Revoltech toys come with the correct color double joint to use for the VF-25S neck. Will pick up the Revoltech to canabalise for the joint, once I know which one. Graham I think these would be useful: Joint parts assort Kaiyodo Revoltech Assemble Borg BTW, if I understood correctly, for the modification to work an additional hole needs to be made in the head. Jenius: Thanks for the review! Edited January 15, 2009 by GGemini
lechuck Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Good review Jenius. I wish your pictures were a bit bigger, but if it is because of web space restraints I understand. Oh and One more thing, can you say something about the toy dimensions. How tall Battroid mode with ankles extended? Did Bandai get the scaling right or wrong? Graham were is your review or are you not going to bother?
SDF-ONE Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) The neck mod looks good and simple. Does anybody know which (if any) Revoltech toys come with the correct color double joint to use for the VF-25S neck. Will pick up the Revoltech to canabalise for the joint, once I know which one. Graham I know that the movie versions of the Evangelion Revoltechs have an extra double joint that is solely used for the stand. So then you wouldn't even have to cannibalize the figures themselves. Note that these are the movie versions (Rebuild of Evangelion). The other Evangelion Revoltechs still use single joints. http://www.happinetonline.com/home/07/imag...6011340_i06.jpg http://www.happinetonline.com/home/07/imag...6011098_i10.jpg Edited January 15, 2009 by SDF-ONE
VFTF1 Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Thanks for the review Jenius. I still have some time to think about these two. It's a hard choice. If they were one quarter of the price, I'd pick them up. But for the asking price - I want something with greater anime accuracy. I'm accustomed to paying high prices for Bandai's Soul of Chogokin, for Yamato Macross and for similar goods because they really take extra care to be anime accurate. These just don't. I would be far more positive about them if they were priced in the 50 USD range. Pete
jenius Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Thanks Edwin for pointing that out, I'll have to make a correction when I'm home on my lunch break . For everybody else, I know it doesn't really add a whole lot new but I'm glad you liked it. LeChuck, I was hoping people could determine the size from the picture with the Yamato VF-1 toy. Scale is approximately correct unless you collapse the ankles in which case it's way too small in battroid (but I think it looks way better with the ankles collapsed). Cent, the toy is actually enjoyable to transform, I think that's what I couldn't quite figure out how to say last night when writing up the design section. That offsets a lot of the faults... there are no heart attack points or items you really have to struggle with.
Ignacio Ocamica Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Thanks for the review jenius!!! Very informative as usual
Dangard Ace Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 I think these would be useful: Joint parts assort Kaiyodo Revoltech Assemble Borg BTW, if I understood correctly, for the modification to work an additional hole needs to be made in the head. Jenius: Thanks for the review! I know Kaiyodo used to make Revoltech joint packs. http://www.toy-wave.com/eng/detail.php?id=...yword=revoltech As for drilling an extra hole, I'm not sure that's needed. They made the hole because the original ball joint hole is bigger then the revoltech peg but if you put a correct size ball on the revoltech peg you should be able to plug that in no problem.
nugundamII Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Just got My ALTO DX YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Got a little freaked out by how small the package was!!! Thought the seller sent me the model kit but when I opened I was pleasantly surprissed that it was the DX I guess I was used to the friggen HUGE boxes from Yamato and was grateful that the box is small for storage purposes. The plane feels smaller to me than an actual 1/60 More like a 1/72?? Love how sturdy it feels Took some pictures of 1/72 YF-19 ISAMU pilot to compare to Bandai. Really I now feel the same as some other members here that Bandai could have applied better paint apps to the pilot. Also lacking more accessories in DX collections I feel a little cheated by Bandai ( I guess a little spoiled by SOC and Aquarion DX) THIS IS NOT WORTH THE $200 Plus PRICE TAG! I will get the VF-25G and the super Strike Pack for the Alto if they come out with it. The regular Super packs are a little pricey right now and I wont bother. Again I think Bandai is asking a little Much. The SOC Eva Spec stuff is almost the same size and come loaded with a myriad of accessories and yes it doesn't transform but you can remove the armor and that takes some intelligence to make. So Far my overall rating is 3/5 if only for the price Still would prefer the Ozuma paint app but that neck and bendy multi-directional cannons are NOT worth the money. n BTW Gloss looks great. A nice coating of nail polish to protect the tampo prints!
nugundamII Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Wait. You paid $200+ for it? 223 CDN to be exact Nothing compared to the 250 -300 Cdn some Hobby shops want for it here
Dangard Ace Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 I'm guessing you didn't get an order in with Overdrive or HLJ cause with HLJ it was only $194cdn w/EMS shipping. Overdrive was even cheaper.
edwin3060 Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Thanks Edwin for pointing that out, I'll have to make a correction when I'm home on my lunch break . For everybody else, I know it doesn't really add a whole lot new but I'm glad you liked it. LeChuck, I was hoping people could determine the size from the picture with the Yamato VF-1 toy. Scale is approximately correct unless you collapse the ankles in which case it's way too small in battroid (but I think it looks way better with the ankles collapsed). Cent, the toy is actually enjoyable to transform, I think that's what I couldn't quite figure out how to say last night when writing up the design section. That offsets a lot of the faults... there are no heart attack points or items you really have to struggle with. You're welcome . I agree with you fully on the collapsed ankle issue. Also, I think someone did calculations, either in the earlier part of this thread or the Ver.2, and the length of the DX in fighter mode is indeed to scale with the anime. I'm not sure about the Battroid though. However from nugundamII's pics I think the 1/72 Yamato Isamu fits nicely into the cockpit! nugundamII: Haha your comparison makes me think that the DX fits in really well with the 1/72 Yamato line! I guess it will go great next to my VF-11B! (Sold off my 1/72 YF/VF-19s once I got my 1/60, unfortunately)
jenius Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 I got mine through Overdrive, think I spent $103 each plus EMS shipping which was probably another $50. I think anyone who might be tempted to spend more than that ought to wait... these aren't niche products, I'm sure more will be available and the price will get reasonable again. Plus, the Yen is too strong right now.
jenius Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Edit: I think you made a mistake with your comment about the same chest and back plates for the -25S and F. The chest plate is clearly different from your photos, given that the -25S has 2 bumps for the additional sensors. I think that looking at the model kit gives us a better explanation of why the head sits so low-- which is the collar piece (which is different for the -25S and F model kits). Some kitbuilders who used the -F collar piece instead of the -S collar piece ended up with the same neckless VF-25S. I suspect the same problem is occuring with the DX-25S I'm home on my lunch break, and I'm looking at photos of both the Alto and Ozma chests, and they look identical to me other than paint schemes. Are you mistaking the two dark paint spots on the Ozma for sensor bumps? Maybe I'm just looking at the wrong spot? Can someone confirm? Are the Alto and Ozma toys the exact same things with different paint and heads or is there an actual difference between the two?
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