Vajira destroyer size

[shadow3393]

I need an opinion on the approximate size of the vajira destroyer.

Here is what I have now, compared to the NMC and the Uraga, both are to the length specs given from the Macross Mech Manual.

[sketchley]

Psst: it's referred to as バジュラ母艦 - Vajra Mothership.

[Mr March]

We don't have much in the way of figures for the sizes of the Macross Frontier ships. About the only fact we know is the Macross Quarter is supposed to be roughly 400 meters long. If that's the case, your Vajra warship looks a little too small, since the Macross Quarter was shown as much smaller than the Vajra warship in Macross Frontier episode #7. In fact the Macross Quarter half-fit in between the two forward booms of the Vajra warship main gun.

While this is all just a guess, I get the feeling the Vajra warships are around the 800+ meter mark, making them just over half the length of the New Macross Class.

[shadow3393]

I thought this was the mothership

http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macrossf/vajra-mothership.htm

I approximated the new size from ep 25, when it was attacking the NMC in the beginning, assuming the CIC display had everything in scale. Side note: apparently Battle Galaxy was projecting Ranka Ree

[Fade Rathnik]

The proportions look right for the scale, i think that the tail is a bit too long though.

[Mr March]

It looks about right, but like I said, we don't really know what's right at this point, so this is all just guessing.

[sketchley]

I haven't seen anything specifically identifying it, in Japanese. Though, given what a mother ship is, it can also be labelled as one.

I thought this was the mothership

http://www.new-un-spacy.com/macrossf/vajra-mothership.htm

[sketchley]

Ga! Checked another source. It's referred to as a バジュラ空母 (Vajra (aircraft) Carrier) in it!

母艦 comes from "Macross F: 2059 Memories" and 空母 comes from Hobby Japan, a modeling magazine.

[shadow3393]

I guess its a carrier then, because in Chinese, 母艦 means carrier, but the literal translation is mothership. Dunno if its the same in Japanese. But then again my Chinese is pretty rusty.

[Mr March]

When we say "it" (in reference to the ship) are we referring to the smaller Vajra warships or the BIG Vajra warship that I've called the mothership? I'll note the name and make a change in the next update, as soon as I know what ship we're talking about. We should also include this in the translation thread (even though it's not "technically" Chronicle related). It's just good to have all the stuff in one thread.

[shadow3393]

When we say "it" (in reference to the ship) are we referring to the smaller Vajra warships or the BIG Vajra warship that I've called the mothership? I'll note the name and make a change in the next update, as soon as I know what ship we're talking about. We should also include this in the translation thread (even though it's not "technically" Chronicle related). It's just good to have all the stuff in one thread.

I was talking about the smaller one, given the kanji from sketchley's first post. I think it translates to carrier but I am basing it off of what I know from Chinese.

Edited October 29, 2008 by shadow3393

[shadow3393]

Made the tail sorter and re-tweaked the fins.

New comparison shots

[sketchley]

The small one. Two publications refer to it by different names. The Macross F dedicated book refers to it as "Mothership", the modelling focused magazine refers to it as a "Carrier".

The big one has yet to be identified in any print source that I've come across.

[Mr March]

Hmmm. I think I'll choose Vajra Carrier.

[sketchley]

Your choice, but just keep in mind that the Japanese word for carrier is "Air Mother". So, "mother ship" isn't that far from either term ("Carrier/Air Mother" vs "Mothership/Mother Warship".