DarkReaper Posted October 21, 2008 Posted October 21, 2008 (edited) While perusing all of macross for more reference pics of the Uraga I noticed that the carrier Isamu is stationed on isn't of any class I have seen yet. Sort of looks like a Guantanamo mixed with a Uraga, is there any data on this one? Seems to be quite a major player as Isamu's entire fleet seems to be made up of them, and it makes an appearance in M7 aswell. [Edit] Noticed that they share some characteristics with the old ARMD carriers, maybe they are just those modernized versions that are always stated to be replaced by the Uraga. [/edit] Edited October 21, 2008 by DarkReaper Quote
Morpheus Posted October 21, 2008 Posted October 21, 2008 Interesting, I never noticed it before, maybe it is a hybrid between Uraga-Guantanamo. Quote
d3v Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 I always thought it was a Guantanamo class, or at least an early version before SK could go back and finalize the design for 7. Quote
sketchley Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Kazutaka Miyatake did the design for the ARMD Stealth Space Carrier in Macross 7. Quote
RedWolf Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Well it's either the Athabasca Cruiser or Haruna Stealth Cruiser listed the Compendium. Quote
Morpheus Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Well it's either the Athabasca Cruiser or Haruna Stealth Cruiser listed the Compendium. Argh, those two names always bothered me, it is listed on the compendium, but there's there are no pictures or lineart about them. I wish it will appear on Chronicle, but its quite unlikely . Quote
sketchley Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 It may appear in the next issue... the Haruna comes from M3. The Athabasca is a real world ship (the last I heard). Not sure if it appeared in M0 or in the "Lost Two Years" short story in Perfect Memory. Quote
Sumdumgai Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 I wouldn't want to be in that office if the floor took a hit from enemy fire... Quote
Morpheus Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 I wouldn't want to be in that office if the floor took a hit from enemy fire... I want to be UNDER the office when a bridge bunny in mini skirt reporting to the captain Quote
Vinnie Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 I wouldn't want to be in that office if the floor took a hit from enemy fire... If the capital ship damage from Macross Frontier is any indication of how destructive firepower of the future is, I think it matters little whether the floor is made of common silicon oxide glass or superalloy armour. Quote
d3v Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 If the capital ship damage from Macross Frontier is any indication of how destructive firepower of the future is, I think it matters little whether the floor is made of common silicon oxide glass or superalloy armour. Transparent aluminum. Quote
Sumdumgai Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 If the capital ship damage from Macross Frontier is any indication of how destructive firepower of the future is, I think it matters little whether the floor is made of common silicon oxide glass or superalloy armour. Doesn't necessarily mean a hit from a capital ship. I was thinking more like some stray rounds from a gunpod or an enemy fighter. When it comes to capital ship shots, hell I wouldn't want to be on the damned thing period! And I agree on the transparent aluminum. "How do you know he didn't invent it in the first place?" Quote
taksraven Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 While perusing all of macross for more reference pics of the Uraga I noticed that the carrier Isamu is stationed on isn't of any class I have seen yet. Sort of looks like a Guantanamo mixed with a Uraga, is there any data on this one? Seems to be quite a major player as Isamu's entire fleet seems to be made up of them, and it makes an appearance in M7 aswell. [Edit] Noticed that they share some characteristics with the old ARMD carriers, maybe they are just those modernized versions that are always stated to be replaced by the Uraga. [/edit] Always loved that middle shot of Isamu standing on the transparent floor. Taksraven Quote
d3v Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Doesn't necessarily mean a hit from a capital ship. I was thinking more like some stray rounds from a gunpod or an enemy fighter. When it comes to capital ship shots, hell I wouldn't want to be on the damned thing period! And I agree on the transparent aluminum. "How do you know he didn't invent it in the first place?" The windows probably have armored shutters and/or a pin-point barrier to protect it. Also, I we already do have transparent (or at the very least, translucent), aluminum based compounds (ALON and transparent alumina). Quote
sketchley Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Looking at the model ship on the desk/bookshelf (1st picture), IMHO it's an upgraded ARMD space carrier. Perhaps one that's space fold capable? The other one from plus - still unclear. The M7 one definitely looks like an earlier version of, or a misdrawn Uraga. And... I'm going to correct myself: it could be the Haruna. Algenicus is the definite ship name (not necessarily class name) of the ship from M3. Quote
d3v Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 (edited) The other one from plus - still unclear. The M7 one definitely looks like an earlier version of, or a misdrawn Uraga. The Mac7 one looks to be a slightly misdrawn Uraga. Edited October 23, 2008 by d3v Quote
Morpheus Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Maybe its just another variant of Uraga class, like Saratoga from VFX-2. Hmm, the design is intriguing me, I'll try to make a 3D model of it and compare it with the other two Uraga variant. Quote
bullet101 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Actually if you look closely at the M7 picture i think it is a Uraga class ship, not even misdrawn or a mod. It just the angle and shadows that make it look different. If you look closely you can see the double point of the front hull, then the step with the two launch/retrevial holes etc. Quote
Shaka_Z Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 The windows probably have armored shutters and/or a pin-point barrier to protect it. Also, I we already do have transparent (or at the very least, translucent), aluminum based compounds (ALON and transparent alumina). dammit you beat me to mentioning it!!! but yes, we have transparent aluminum today IRL. it's hella expensive though... something like $10000US per square inch iirc. Quote
RedWolf Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Okay it's been quite some time since I've watched Macross Plus episode 1. Could it be that Isamu is on a space station? It could explain that one ship is a Guantanamo docked. Quote
macrossvf-1msx Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Okay it's been quite some time since I've watched Macross Plus episode 1. Could it be that Isamu is on a space station? It could explain that one ship is a Guantanamo docked. No way the ships where all moving at diff seed Quote
RedWolf Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Point But looking again at episode 1 those are just Guantanamos. Three of them. Quote
macrossvf-1msx Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZAESJ2hL2c...feature=related Edited October 23, 2008 by macrossvf-1msx Quote
anime52k8 Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Point But looking again at episode 1 those are just Guantanamos. Three of them. agreed, the middle pic is defiantly of two normal Guantanamo's and the third pic looks like a poorly drawn Uraga. the model in the third pic however is defiantly something different. maybe it's a carrier class introduced after SW1 that was mostly out of service before 2040. Quote
DarkReaper Posted October 25, 2008 Author Posted October 25, 2008 I don't think the carriers in the glass picture are Guantanamos. They have a bridge superstructure to the left that the normal Guantanamos don't have. Besides a lot of other details don't match up. Quote
Morpheus Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Whatever that thing is, its definitely a hybrid between ARMD (or Guantanamo) and Uraga. I've been looking in Miyatake design work and none of the lineart match. Quote
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