electric indigo Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 Is it a kit, or a toy? http://happy.ap.teacup.com/runchickens/1080.html Quote
theplasticwerks Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 Is it a kit, or a toy? http://happy.ap.teacup.com/runchickens/1080.html Kit, I believe. Quote
cowie165 Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 Wow, cool. Is the VF-1 the one that was on the front of Hobby Japan the other month? The Tomahawk looks nice - a little 1/200-like front on, but the oblique shots showing the opening hatches look good. indigo should I even ask how you possibly came across those images on a Japanese site? Is there a Japanese google reader? Quote
Vifam7 Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 (edited) It says at the bottom: トマホークは、某氏が 「全然気にいらんので、１から作り直した。 あのボードの画像は信用せんでよろしい。」 とおっしゃってたぞ。ｗ With regards to the Tomahawk, a certain person said "We don't like it at all, so we went back to 1 and remade it. Don't believe the image on the posterboard." Edited October 16, 2008 by Vifam7 Quote
ahiachris Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 I just checked the Wave website. They are really going to release the Tomahawk. http://www.hobby-wave.com/plaradi2008/index.html Quote
electric indigo Posted October 16, 2008 Author Posted October 16, 2008 (edited) I hope the Tomahawk will end up with slightly better proportions (like the Yamato toy) I just went to the Wave website and died - the Minerva is so gorgeous. Too bad it's a toy & probably extremely expensive. Edited October 16, 2008 by electric indigo Quote
Vifam7 Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 I hope the Tomahawk will end up with slightly better proportions (like the Yamato toy) Read my post above. They went back and resculpted the thing. Ignore the photo. Quote
captain america Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 It says at the bottom: With regards to the Tomahawk, a certain person said "We don't like it at all, so we went back to 1 and remade it. Don't believe the image on the posterboard." Which would only be sensible, since the lower body is way too wide-set and bulky; quite perplexing, especially given that there are front/side/rear diagrams that exist for it. Come to think of it, the 1/60 toy isn't accurate to the line-art either... Quote
electric indigo Posted October 16, 2008 Author Posted October 16, 2008 Come to think of it, the 1/60 toy isn't accurate to the line-art either... I don't care about line-art as long as the kit/toy looks awesome. Quote
Grayson72 Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 Kinda perplexing though, just seems like a totally random release, not that I'm complaining Quote
ahiachris Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 Do hope the people at Wave will do the Tomahawk properly. I totally missed the version that was released by Captain and I believe that Captain is not planning on a rerun.....are you??? Captain?? Quote
HWR MKII Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 If he was he definitely isnt now. Though i believe Johns sculpt to be superior to anything produced before or now. it just looks "right". Quote
yaiba Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 Kinda perplexing though, just seems like a totally random release, not that I'm complaining I finally break down and buy an Imai destroid, so of course someone announces that they are releasing a new kit Oh well, I'm not complaining either. Quote
ahiachris Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 If he was he definitely isnt now. Though i believe Johns sculpt to be superior to anything produced before or now. it just looks "right". Yeap...that's why I'm hoping that if the Wave thing release and someone might sell John's Destoids.. Quote
captain america Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 Do hope the people at Wave will do the Tomahawk properly. I totally missed the version that was released by Captain and I believe that Captain is not planning on a rerun.....are you??? Captain?? While I no longer have the masters for the Tomahawk, I do believe that the current owner has designs on re-releasing it. I had put much foreplanning into making sure my sculpts were accurate to the lineart (or at least, as close as they can be with all the inconsistencies,) which is why I'm so perplexed as to why they keep trying to re-proportion the wheel, so to speak. While Wave might get "lucky," and make it look appealing to some, as soon as one starts to deviate from the original source material, one treads a slippery slope with the fans. Trust me, I know I can get away with that sort of controversy because I'm an artist, and I cater to a very, very small group of people with particular interests, but I'm not quite so sure that the same formula would be successful when applied to a corporation looking to offer a product on an industrial scale. Quote
HWR MKII Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 If anything Johns kit could be modified to be sold as a "correction" kit for the wave one. Quote
electric indigo Posted October 16, 2008 Author Posted October 16, 2008 Where does this Pawlowian reflex on MW come from to bitch about any new release, even if no pic is shown? Quote
Ranger565 Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 John, I firmly believe that your Tomahawk Kit is the Best Kit of that Class ever made. Quote
captain america Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 John, I firmly believe that your Tomahawk Kit is the Best Kit of that Class ever made. Thanks, that means a lot to me. It really does. That having been said, Wave has a very interesting creative opportunity here, and I for one am curious to see what they come up with. Also, we still don't know what it will cost, or whether the kit will be an orphan or if they will do all the other Destroids with common leg parts. Quote
HWR MKII Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 Where does this Pawlowian reflex on MW come from to bitch about any new release, even if no pic is shown? Pics have been shown and they look anorexic in the torso. Quote
cowie165 Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 Where does this Pawlowian reflex on MW come from to bitch about any new release, even if no pic is shown? Did you mean Pavlovian? Quote
electric indigo Posted October 17, 2008 Author Posted October 17, 2008 Иван Петрович Павлов. Same guy, different romanization. HWR, it has been stated by Wave that their first approach was a failure and that the kit will look different than the first prototype. Quote
cowie165 Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 Иван Петрович Павлов. Same guy, different romanization. Right. I was interested in what you wrote and just wanted to be sure you were talking conditioned responses. спасибо! Quote
Berttt Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 Sounds interesting. Since the John Tomahawk has been the best interpretation yet of the linart, I'll be curious as to what they come up with. And here I was thinking that new 1/72 steyrene SDF macross kits were a pipe dream Quote
MechTech Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 More good stuff coming! I need another job ! - MT Quote
HWR MKII Posted October 17, 2008 Posted October 17, 2008 Иван Петрович Павлов. Same guy, different romanization. HWR, it has been stated by Wave that their first approach was a failure and that the kit will look different than the first prototype. Still doesnt mean they will get it right. BUT we will see. Maybe they will get a copy of johns kit and use it for measuremets similar to how Trumpeter got a copy of an intake correction set for their 1/32 flanker and copied it for the 2 seat release. Quote
cowie165 Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Still doesnt mean they will get it right. BUT we will see. Maybe they will get a copy of johns kit and use it for measuremets similar to how Trumpeter got a copy of an intake correction set for their 1/32 flanker and copied it for the 2 seat release. Is there anything Zactoman can do about that? Or is it too difficult for one man to take on a Chinese mega-company over a non-protected corrections set? Is there anything John could do to protect his work? I guess HobbyFan's inventory says there isn't much anyone can do to stop it... They've copied work from just about every manufacturer Quote
Ranger565 Posted October 20, 2008 Posted October 20, 2008 I would hate to see Hobby fan copy Johns stuff. I would never buy from them if they did that. Quote
cowie165 Posted October 21, 2008 Posted October 21, 2008 I would hate to see Hobby fan copy Johns stuff. I would never buy from them if they did that. +1 Quote
ahiachris Posted October 21, 2008 Posted October 21, 2008 I would hate to see Hobby fan copy Johns stuff. I would never buy from them if they did that. I'll try to sculpt one myself. Quote
HWR MKII Posted October 21, 2008 Posted October 21, 2008 Is there anything Zactoman can do about that? Or is it too difficult for one man to take on a Chinese mega-company over a non-protected corrections set? Is there anything John could do to protect his work? I guess HobbyFan's inventory says there isn't much anyone can do to stop it... They've copied work from just about every manufacturer In the end theres nothing to 100% prove it. A flanker part is a flanker part. There are small indicators that they copied however. But since there was no official license for it held by Chris there not much for him in going against them. Unlike Michael Rinaldi and the E-100. Rinaldi created the original turret and details YEARS before trumpeter decided to do an E-100 Ausf B. He saw this and went after trumpeter. Now in the trumps E-100 there is a nice note on the front thanking Mike for his technical assistance. Quote
SDF-ONE Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Found this scan from the latest Hobby Japan magazine done by SRW. Does Wave simply not bother with hiding seams or is it still too early to tell from this model? Quote
Ranger565 Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Still looks out of perportion. I think if I were to buy the kit and build it. It will need some Personal detailing that John has put into his kit. that this kit does not even have. Where the torso meets looks kind of weird. They made it like a ball joint. 2 questions. 1. where would someone even get one if and or when its released. 2. Compared to the kits that are out there now. whats a price on a kit like that? Just 2 questions that would make the kit worth it on my end. Carl Quote
505thAirborne Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 That's awesome, 1/72 scale Destroids, these will match right up with my other macross 1/72 models. Wonder if the other 4 mechs will follow, can anyone say 1/72 Monster MAC II???? Quote
MechTech Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 This photo DEFINITELY is a prototype (it's missing a leg and stuff). HLJ.com will probably sell it and I bet it averages $40 like most recent "fixed" macross models. Just like the Bandai VF-25 that most people said would suck before we even saw it, we need to give them a chance on this. Now people who whined about the VF-25 are whining because they can't get one right now - MT Quote
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