Kronnang Dunn Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Got it for $ 35 dls in mint condition... (Did I pay too much?) I thought it was a re-print at first, but it says 1983... Man... I discovered truly shocking early designs of both characters and mecha in it that I hadn't seen anywhere before... Will scan and post in this thread A.S.A.P..... Edited September 23, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 Does anybody can translate the main title characters of this image? It seems to me like a very early prototype of Macross... (Battle City Megarodo?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Thank Haruhi-sama that we didn't get that as a finished product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Thank Haruhi-sama that we didn't get that as a finished product. I believe is a very very early concept test... Perhaps done during 1979 to propose the idea behind the series (looks more super-robot than anything)... It doesn't look that bad for me, hehe... Btw... Check out this Valkyrie prototype... (A Core Fighter from Gundam?) Edited September 23, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamweaver13 Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Does anybody can translate the main title characters of this image? It seems to me like a very early prototype of Macross... (Battle City Megarodo?) What the... the Macross turns into... Minmay?!!! Edited September 23, 2008 by dreamweaver13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinkirou Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 yeah looks like from gundam core fighter design hehe XD but in fairness, the transformation action is somehow still the same - flip down of the plane mode to battroid mode XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) What the... the Macross turns into... Minmay?!!! Nah... It seems to me that it originally transformed/separated/split into those different robots in the image... yeah looks like from gundam core fighter design hehe XD but in fairness, the transformation action is somehow still the same - flip down of the plane mode to battroid mode XD Also looks a lot like the SDF-1 Macross itself... Edited September 23, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isamu Starkiller Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Very cool find! Reminds me of Ralph McQuary's (sp?) early art work for Star Wars.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlightman Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 This stuff has been covered a bit before. Notably here: http://www.ex.org/3.3/04-feature_macross1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) This stuff has been covered a bit before. Notably here: http://www.ex.org/3.3/04-feature_macross1.html Thanks for the link. That's some pretty interesting information... Very cool find! Reminds me of Ralph McQuarrie's early art work for Star Wars.. Thanks... I believe these other valk prototypes were done by Kazutaka Miyatake... They are waaay smaller and look more like power armors. I see some similarity to his later battle suits from Uchu No Senshi/Starship Troopers (1988)... Edited September 23, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Uhm... none of this is big, shocking news (at least not for those of us that already have it). I suggest you stay away from the rough drawings and other brainstorming at the tail end of the book, simply because they are not cannon and the are usually very good reasons why they were altered, reworked or rejected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Uhm... none of this is big, shocking news (at least not for those of us that already have it). I suggest you stay away from the rough drawings and other brainstorming at the tail end of the book, simply because they are not cannon and the are usually very good reasons why they were altered, reworked or rejected. Actually I find them very fascinating and quite interesting... Since those rough drawings and other brainstorming show the whole creative process behind the original Macross... All that concept art is pure Macross history to me... For example... After watching these now I understand where the idea for the Zentradi/Human mall in Macross Frontier came from... Edited September 23, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Actually I find them very fascinating and quite interesting... Since those rough drawings and other brainstorming show the whole creative process behind the original Macross... All that concept art is pure Macross history to me... For example... After watching these now I understand where the idea for the Zentradi/Human mall in Macross Frontier came from... Oh My Haruhi! It's Vrlitwhai out on a morning stroll! Edited September 23, 2008 by RedWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 Oh My Haruhi! It's Vrlitwhai out on a morning stroll! Seems that way... Btw... Look at how Vrlitwhai was supposed to be originally... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Do you have Shoji Kawamori Macross Design Works, Kazutaka Miyatake Macross and Orguss Design Works, or Kawamori Shoji Design Works? All of those are dedicated specifically to the rough drawings, brainstorming and the whole creative process behind all of Macross up until M0. Also, Theatrical Macross Special Preview also contains a couple of pages of the "missed" rough drawings from SDF:M. In addition to the SDF-2. Actually I find them very fascinating and quite interesting... Since those rough drawings and other brainstorming show the whole creative process behind the original Macross... All that concept art is pure Macross history to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Do you have Shoji Kawamori Macross Design Works, Kazutaka Miyatake Macross and Orguss Design Works, or Kawamori Shoji Design Works? All of those are dedicated specifically to the rough drawings, brainstorming and the whole creative process behind all of Macross up until M0. Also, Theatrical Macross Special Preview also contains a couple of pages of the "missed" rough drawings from SDF:M. In addition to the SDF-2. Sadly no, but I think I saw a torrent of Kazutaka Miyatake Macross and Orguss Design Works. I'll see if I can download it later... Btw... Does anybody know who is this supposed to be? Boddole Zer? Edited September 23, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWolf Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Short guy... Exsedol Folmo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VF-25 Messiah Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 It IS Exsedol Folmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veffidas Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Yes, the katakana says it's Exsedol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exsedol_Folmo . You can use that katakana charts at Wikipedia to sound 'em out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) Short guy... Exsedol Folmo? It IS Exsedol Folmo. I kinda suspected that too, hehe... A bald Exsedol... Amazing!!! Yes, the katakana says it's Exsedol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exsedol_Folmo . You can use that katakana charts at Wikipedia to sound 'em out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana . Thx for the info... Will come in handy. Edited September 23, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polidread Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 nice book you have there! i saw BREAST FIGHTERS again!!! we do get a bald Exedol (bald, brainy and green!!!) in DYRL and macross 7 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamweaver13 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Seems that way... Btw... Look at how Vrlitwhai was supposed to be originally... looking at britai's original design, I just realized... would you really trust that face if he tells you that he will protect your fleet from now on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isamu Starkiller Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Zentradi are as good with the up keep of their teeth as they are with their ships... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcroRay Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Zentradi are as good with the up keep of their teeth as they are with their ships... The Supervision Army probably offered the better dental plan. A Free market health insurance industry probably contributed to the fall of the Protoculture.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted September 25, 2008 Author Share Posted September 25, 2008 looking at britai's original design, I just realized... would you really trust that face if he tells you that he will protect your fleet from now on? I bet he was supposed to be more of a brute than a genius tactician back then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 Valkyrie Melee weapons since then...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Yeah the VF-1S with a Beam Saber is one of my favorites (I think it is a joke pic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketchley Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 It's a joke. Half the text is referring to the rough coloured image of the Monster above, the other half says "drawn by Kawamori Shouji himself. The 3rd body Valkryie (VF-1S?). You can also use it in the "Combat Action" page(s). I believe he's referring to Valkyrie Combat SectionPages 83-92. And it is a joke, considering the other joke images in that section (two VFs kissing, etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted October 5, 2008 Author Share Posted October 5, 2008 (edited) It's a joke. Half the text is referring to the rough coloured image of the Monster above, the other half says "drawn by Kawamori Shouji himself. The 3rd body Valkryie (VF-1S?). You can also use it in the "Combat Action" page(s). I believe he's referring to Valkyrie Combat SectionPages 83-92. And it is a joke, considering the other joke images in that section (two VFs kissing, etc.). Joke or not, it looks very kewl to me, hehe... Check this out, a VF-1J Valkyrie with internal missiles...!!!! Edited October 5, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Thanks for sharing! This is some crazy concept stuff I've never seen before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windrider Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Joke or not, it looks very kewl to me, hehe... Check this out, a VF-1J Valkyrie with internal missiles...!!!! Hmm... This looks more like from the Legios in Genesis Climber Mospeada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beltane70 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Where the hell would all the internal mechanisms fit with all those missile, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechaban Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Doesn't every version of Perfect Memory have these images? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anime52k8 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I believe he's referring to Valkyrie Combat SectionPages 83-92. And it is a joke, considering the other joke images in that section (two VFs kissing, etc.). ok, that's a new one. can we see this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronnang Dunn Posted October 6, 2008 Author Share Posted October 6, 2008 (edited) Thanks for sharing! This is some crazy concept stuff I've never seen before. You're welcome, hehe... My real purpose for posting them is to show the history of the creative process behind Macross. I don't want to start any debate on canonity and stuff, hah... I'm just posting these images since I find them fascinating... They clearly show all those exciting ideas the Studio Nue guys had during the development of the first series... ok, that's a new one. can we see this? Will post it as as soon as I can... Edited October 6, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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