VF-25 Messiah Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) Thanks again! Uhh! Alto is dead? Noone's stopping you from thinking so. Just don't get shocked next episode Edited September 18, 2008 by VF-25 Messiah Quote
whispo Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) Ok just finished watching ....... OMG!!! That was one awsome episode. Amazingly nice looking, as in well animated. Wow the "Alto scene" was kind off really cool. I haven't given up my hopes for a SherylxAlto ending yet Edited September 18, 2008 by whispo Quote
DeeBot Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Pretty simple, the woman in the picture was not Mao's daughter, but daughter-in-law. Just a guess, I could be wrong here. Works for me. Not like we'll probably get a definite answer, anyway; there's surely not enough running time left to cover minor plot points like this. Heck, I'm gratified they got to it at all. Quote
Duke Togo Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Works for me. Not like we'll probably get a definite answer, anyway; there's surely not enough running time left to cover minor plot points like this. Heck, I'm gratified they got to it at all. It'll be clarified in some publication at some point, I assume. Alot of what we know of the Macross universe came to us that way. Quote
Isamu Starkiller Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 can someone do a side by side of the grand daughter pic and Alto's flashback of his mom? I just had a very disturbing thought...... Quote
VF-25 Messiah Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) can someone do a side by side of the grand daughter pic and Alto's flashback of his mom? I just had a very disturbing thought...... Given that I think I know what you're thinking: "No I don't think so." Edited September 18, 2008 by VF-25 Messiah Quote
Duke Togo Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 can someone do a side by side of the grand daughter pic and Alto's flashback of his mom? I just had a very disturbing thought...... Spoiler tags, they are your friend. And no, that would be silly. Quote
wolfx Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Unlikely, Isamu. Sad to say Sarah's mom is prettier, and drawn by Mikimoto too. Quote
RedWolf Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Given Bilrer saying that he'll finally meet up with somebody. Shery'll being Mao's grandaugther and Alto inside the fold network when he was fried I think Bilrer could very well be Ranka's and perhaps Sheryl's grandpa. Grandma being Mao. But Sheryl is the granddaughter of Mao. Simple really Mao had two daughters. Ranshe taking after her Aunt Sara's looks more while the other taking Mao. Sheryl looking like her Aunt Ranshe while Ranka inherited the looks of her aunt and Grandma Mao. Quote
Gin Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Anyone else think Alto with earring looks like he'd have made a good female character? Quote
Duke Togo Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Shery'll being Mao's grandaugther and Alto inside the fold network when he was fried I think Bilrer could very well be Ranka's and perhaps Sheryl's grandpa. Grandma being Mao. You are making my brain hurt. Quote
RichterX Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Anyone else think Alto with earring looks like he'd have made a good female character? I think we all thought that since the first episode, hell even his friends think the same... Quote
MisaForever Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Wow, a lot of you aren't using tags. Not that I care as I read spoilers anyways but some people may get flustered >_> Quote
Garou Kuroryuu Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) WAIT!... Why would Ranka sing "Ai Oboeteimasuka?" and WHY would it work at all? Isn't it supposed to be just a song which is part of a soundtrack for a fictional in-universe movie?????? I mean, considering this, even "Ai wa nagareru" should work as well. Or is there something I don't know that tells us that there was indeed an original & ancient Protoculture song that was "updated" for the movie? I'm confused Edited September 18, 2008 by Garou Kuroryuu Quote
Isamu Starkiller Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 God, I forgot one time.... Quote
VF-25 Messiah Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 WAIT!... Why would Ranka sing "Ai Oboeteimasuka?" and WHY would it work at all? Isn't it supposed to be just a song which is part of a soundtrack for a fictional in-universe movie?????? I mean, considering this, even "Ai wa nagareru" should work as well. Or is there something I don't know that tells us that there was indeed an original & ancient Protoculture song that was "updated" for the movie? I'm confused Hint: any song would've worked. Quote
rankalee Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Hint: any song would've worked. Your right. Ai oboete, even nyan nyan could work. Awesome ep!!! Thanks for the LQ version!!! Quote
Gin Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 I think they just used that song because they like it so much. Plus, its pretty famous in their universe. Quote
RedWolf Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) WAIT!... Why would Ranka sing "Ai Oboeteimasuka?" and WHY would it work at all? Isn't it supposed to be just a song which is part of a soundtrack for a fictional in-universe movie?????? I mean, considering this, even "Ai wa nagareru" should work as well. Or is there something I don't know that tells us that there was indeed an original & ancient Protoculture song that was "updated" for the movie? I'm confused :wink: I think somebody said that Ai Oboeteimasuka was the last song of Minmay before Megaroad 1 disappeared. Edited September 18, 2008 by RedWolf Quote
VF-25 Messiah Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 I think they just used that song because they like it so much. Plus, its pretty famous in their universe. They used it because that's what the writers wanted to use. Mystery isn't bigger than that Quote
Gin Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 They used it because that's what the writers wanted to use. Mystery isn't bigger than that Thats when we find out that there actually aren't any writers, then the mystery beings. Just kidding though. I agree with you. Quote
Garou Kuroryuu Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) I think they just used that song because they like it so much. Plus, its pretty famous in their universe. I agree and concede that's the easiest answer to it. But still... kinda bugs me and throws the plot a little out for me. Hell, if Aimo is supposed to be a Vajra song, even the birdman version would have fit better, in my opinion. Still, an awesome episode. Enjoyed it a lot, was fricking screaming since the action began. I really wish the last episode gets extended air time, like... dunno, 45-50 mins? We really need that extended time to get a fully-fleshed ending with no loose ends. I think somebody said that Ai Oboeteimasuka was the last song of Minmay before Megaroad 1 disappeared. Any reference of it? Kinda remember something along that, but could a mess of my memory. Edited September 18, 2008 by Garou Kuroryuu Quote
manwiththemachinegun Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 For people who wanted more Macross Plus homages: The giant fold Ranka hologram was a huge tip of the hat to Sharon Apple going berserk. Quote
ChrisG Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Still, an awesome episode. Enjoyed it a lot, was fricking screaming since the action began. I really wish the last episode gets extended air time, like... dunno, 45-50 mins? We really need that extended time to get a fully-fleshed ending with no loose ends. Since it's becoming all the rage for shows to have a 25 episode broadcast and a bonus 26th episode on DVD, I wouldn't be surprised if Frontier does it. Not to say I'm expecting them to, but it wouldn't surprise me if it happened. Quote
Gin Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 For people who wanted more Macross Plus homages: The giant fold Ranka hologram was a huge tip of the hat to Sharon Apple going berserk. Or they could have liked seeing big whats her face from Gurren. Quote
Final Vegeta Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Well, of course Alto was shot down. How else is he gonna get the VF-25 back? The original queen of Vajra looks dead to me. Did it ever move? From the way things are, I wouldn't be surprised if it was connected to the AFOS. FV Quote
VF-25 Messiah Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Well, of course Alto was shot down. How else is he gonna get the VF-25 back? The original queen of Vajra looks dead to me. Did it ever move? From the way things are, I wouldn't be surprised if it was connected to the AFOS. FV I'm with you on both these points Quote
Gin Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Well, of course Alto was shot down. How else is he gonna get the VF-25 back? The original queen of Vajra looks dead to me. Did it ever move? From the way things are, I wouldn't be surprised if it was connected to the AFOS. FV Its gotta be connected to AFOS. Maybe its another one sent to another planet? Quote
VF-25 Messiah Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Just realized... we actually do get to see the Battle 25 transform, if just a little... no focus on it at all and seems it only goes to half-point... and hard to make out on a non HD-raw, need HD raw now! ... anyway I'm such a slowpoke. Quote
Impreszive Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Agh! No horrible raw yet! I usually don't use Megaupload. I guess I may have to? Quote
VF-25 Messiah Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Agh! No horrible raw yet! I usually don't use Megaupload. I guess I may have to? Uhm... usually direct download is the most preferable... Quote
tali21 Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 can someone please give a translation of the naration at the end with the photobook etc Quote
isa_o Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Dunno, sounds like Alto's the woman . I guess that might be better than being a girl . "I'm not an adult, I'm a WOMAN" ? Looked more ancient and faded to me. I knew it, another macross zero style ending. lol Quote
timmystyle Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 lol terminator Grace. Killed by her own hubris and because we all love crazy, off the wall predictions, Alto and Micheal roll in with style in VF-19s, proving once and for all that the character shield is the hardest known substance in the universe. Quote
Duke Togo Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 I wouldn't be surprised if it was connected to the AFOS. I would. After months of speculation and convoluted plot theories, in the end it didn't end up being that mysterious or complicated. The story itself is pretty simple. Quote
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