Gundam Plamodel Thread III

[VFTF1]

Penelope Gundam...is that like Minmey Gaurd only with pictures of Penelope Cruize in lingerie?

If so - I'm all for!

Pete

[Ghost Train]

Penelope Gundam...is that like Minmey Gaurd only with pictures of Penelope Cruize in lingerie?

If so - I'm all for!

Pete

Unfortunately no...

Penerope:

[VFTF1]

That's like the total opposite of sexy feminine Penelope Cruize...

It looks like I-will-trip-and-fall-over-and-can't-even-land-on-my-ass-but-rather-only-become-a-jumbled-ball-of-parts-Gundam ...

But it just goes to show that there's a lot about Gundam I don't know...

Pete

[nugundamII]

Unfortunately no...

Penerope:

although the gundam looks good its not practical

[David Hingtgen]

It's kinda like a Deathscythe Hell Custom, but more ludicrously caped. And white.

[nugundamII]

It's kinda like a Deathscythe Hell Custom, but more ludicrously caped. And white.

Its definitely nice but it cant even cross its arms or do some of the crazy maneuvers seen in seed and 00

[Beltane70]

The Penelope Gundam is just a full-armored Xi-Gundam.

I have the Gundam Fix Figuration of the Xi-Gundam. It came with the option parts for the Penelope Gundam.

I'm perfectly fine with Bandai releasing the MG version of the GN-X from Gundam 00. I really like the design and was really disappointed when they only released an HG 1/144 model of the suit.

OK, I'm sold! I know what I'm getting myself for Christmas this year. After seeing the pictures, I have to have the PG 00 Raiser PG kit.

Edited November 24, 2009 by Beltane70

[Snail00]

Best dam model EVA

Get it

you wont regret it

Record time

6.5 hours

HUGE SWORD

[VFTF1]

Oh you don't need to convince me. I have a whole carton of Astray Blue Frames headed my way along with a bunch of other stuff as we speak

Definitely will be building one of those!

Pete

[Twoducks]

Beautifull gallery of the PG 00... FINALLY being posed showing off what it can do with the 0 raiser on!!!

http://asayume.gnk.cc/00gallery2/pg00r/pg00r.html

A lot of people were thinking that the side binders could not move. I was hopping that something wasn't explained correctly when the rumor started. Well, as the above gallery shows, they do.

http://ngeekhiong.blogspot.com/2009/11/pg-...s-gn-drive.html

Someone should kick Bandais marketing in the ass for their boring poses.

Blue Fram is also on my "to get" list.

[eugimon]

disappointed to find out the hip joint is no longer diecast but ABS

inner frame looks pretty devoid of detailing as well compared to other PG releases... not that big of a deal but I liked all the faux mechanical details..

Edited November 25, 2009 by eugimon

[VFTF1]

I just wanna know one thing ... I haven't seen Gundam OO, and I don't mind getting "spoiled" - but WHY do they even combine? I mean...what is the use of having a jet on the Gundam's back and its' wings on the shoulders?

Pete

[Ignacio Ocamica]

Wish I liked this design, but I don't

Won't get the PG 00, I'm still not convinced.

[Snail00]

I just wanna know one thing ... I haven't seen Gundam OO, and I don't mind getting "spoiled" - but WHY do they even combine? I mean...what is the use of having a jet on the Gundam's back and its' wings on the shoulders?

Pete

It does have an inner Frame....just different mechanics...ie no pistons and what not. The details came from the pistons and levers. The frames themselves are just endo skeletons to support the armor.

As to the jet up its ass, I found that the entire inner design of the Rx-78 with its jet and any damage sustained on the outside of the robot might interfere with the fighter (core) being able to disengage. Great escape pod feature but also difficult to pull off. THE 00 is beautiful in design but maybe the real world implementation wasn't well thought out. I think from the show the Gundam was developed first and then a side project for a support vehicle was developed as a side support and then decided to integrate the two for more power output and versatility. Either way its fantasy and I doubt my kids would ever see any robotic application as we see in 80's mecha or the modern ones too ...(maybe the destoroids and the like) It is pretty, it is a PG and it looks good enough to drop 300+ on. .... Anyone here has the PG Astray Red Frame to give up a review? Thoughts? And rumblings of Bandai releasing the flight pack?

Thanks

Edited November 25, 2009 by Snail00

[eugimon]

I just wanna know one thing ... I haven't seen Gundam OO, and I don't mind getting "spoiled" - but WHY do they even combine? I mean...what is the use of having a jet on the Gundam's back and its' wings on the shoulders?

Pete

What's the point of half the crap they have hanging off the back of any gundam?

[VFTF1]

What's the point of half the crap they have hanging off the back of any gundam?

Well... I tend to agree, which is why I stay away from the Gundam SEED backpack of doom Gundams - although sometimes there are reasons...cannons, air combat vehicles ...

It's just that the O Raiser is - I think - the BIGGEST Gundam airplane EVER proportional to the Gundam itself. I mean, the Core Fighters in all of the assorted series were tiny and fit either in the Gundam or on its' back (Force Impulse). And even when they had backpacks like in SEED Destiny which dis-attached to form some kind of flying gizmos - they were comparatively smaller.

The OO Raiser is literally a huge as jet hanging off a Gundam's back.

The "escape pod" theory doesn't fly with me - it's way to big to be simply an escape pod.

Has anybody who's watched the show discovered its' function or the reason given for it being like that?

I'm not exactly demanding the reason to be super logical. I mean, in Macross, Roy says that the battloid modes are there to fight 50 foot people from space. THAT was the reason for the transformation and the robot mode. The SDF-1 transforms ONLY because it's the only way to fire the main cannons.

So reasons can be zanny - I just would like to know the reason behind this OO Raiser.

Pete

[Ghost Train]

I just wanna know one thing ... I haven't seen Gundam OO, and I don't mind getting "spoiled" - but WHY do they even combine? I mean...what is the use of having a jet on the Gundam's back and its' wings on the shoulders?

Pete

All the Gundams from 00 are powered by this engine (cone sticking out of their backs) called the GN Drive. This special engines have an overdrive mode, called "Trans-Am" that makes the Gundam super-fast and powerful with formidable plot-armor. Ok, follow?

Now, the Gundam 00 was the first mobile suit to have 2 GN Drives, but the engineers at Celestial Being were having a hard time stabilizing both drives so the Gundam 00 could engage its Trans-Am mode. Therefore they developed the 0-Raiser unit (the jet) as a means of controlling and stabilizing both drives, which enabled the Gundam to go Trans-Am.

When they combine, the Gundam gets the ultra-tacky name of 00-Raiser, and the name literally flashes on its forehead (lol I'm not kidding here, have to watch the show).

... And that's why I liek Sheryl more than Ranka!!!!

[VFTF1]

SPOILER EDXPLANATION FROM GHOST TRAIN

Thanks.

I find it very much a coincidence that they couldn't find ANY other way to achieve that... because I'm sure it's not the entire O Raiser which allows for the OO Gundam to achieve that. I mean - is ALL of the O raiser necessary for it? I don't believe it - there must be something else.

Then again - it basically sounds just as cheesy as G Armor and all the crap Gundam started to get towards the end of MSG. So I guess it's a tradition

And that's why I like Sheryl more than Ranka!!!!

I am more than happy to leave Sheryl to you and keep Ranka all to myself

Pete

[Ghost Train]

They probably didn't need a whole jet to do it >_> . The final-boss of Season 2 was also a twin-drive unit and it didn't need a huge thing hanging from its back (well it did have stuff on the back, but not a jet ).

Also... I was planning on getting the PG-OO for the holidays, but I think I've burned out from wanting to buy it by the insane proliferation of images on the web....

[Vifam7]

Then again - it basically sounds just as cheesy as G Armor and all the crap Gundam started to get towards the end of MSG. So I guess it's a tradition

Add on "power-up" parts have been de rigueur since Mazinger Z. In other words, it's tradition in robot anime.

Whatever explanation the creators think of for these add-on parts is an exercise in how craftily they can make us think how cool it is and buy the toys.

[VFTF1]

Yeag, but there are better and worse add on parts.

In Macross, the super packs and armor make sense. Super packs allow you to travel further distances in space - that's important if you want to go somewhere fast - like Hikaru wanting to escort Misa all the way to Earth. The armor helps when you want your battroid to serve as a walking artilery station.

Gundam's record is half and half. I think most of the packs in SEED actually do make sense. They're diverse enough - some of them are flight packs, others artillery etc etc. All of them are sensible in design - as is most of SEED mecha actually (unlike SEED anime).

The Super Robot add ons are also fine because they are supper robots.

But sometimes someone some where drops the ball. Hate to say it, but the O Raiser might be an example. It's a beautiful PG kit - but is makes absolutely no sense.

I mean - it makes less sense than any other backpack on a robot that I've ever encountered -seriously.

Pete

[eugimon]

Yeag, but there are better and worse add on parts.

In Macross, the super packs and armor make sense. Super packs allow you to travel further distances in space - that's important if you want to go somewhere fast - like Hikaru wanting to escort Misa all the way to Earth. The armor helps when you want your battroid to serve as a walking artilery station.

Gundam's record is half and half. I think most of the packs in SEED actually do make sense. They're diverse enough - some of them are flight packs, others artillery etc etc. All of them are sensible in design - as is most of SEED mecha actually (unlike SEED anime).

The Super Robot add ons are also fine because they are supper robots.

But sometimes someone some where drops the ball. Hate to say it, but the O Raiser might be an example. It's a beautiful PG kit - but is makes absolutely no sense.

I mean - it makes less sense than any other backpack on a robot that I've ever encountered -seriously.

Pete

really? less than that one gundam that has giant glowing butterfly wings? or the one with giant dove wings?

Anyways, I don't care for the raiser thing either, adds too much clutter for me.

[Twoducks]

Yep, the inner frame of the PG 00 isn't on the same ball park as the awesome PG Strike frame; but I guess that is to be expected from the über minimalist 00 designs. Still, I really hope I can beat my laziness and paint the inner frame in a dark grey tone. It makes it stand out a lot better than the plain black:

Hope some day they do an EX-S, now THAT would have a kick ass inner frame

Two part video review (the raiser loaded up looks huge):

The binders wiggle a bit. Hope the connection parts are strong.

[VFTF1]

really? less than that one gundam that has giant glowing butterfly wings? or the one with giant dove wings?

Yes - because the Wing Zero custom, in my opinion, is at least aesthetically pleasing. Sure, it's not functional, but it's artistic and lends an air of angelic nobility to the Gundam. As for the butterfly wings... which one would that be?

The problem I have with the O Raiser is that it's just odd. I'm not spasmatic about it or anything, I will grant that the design is interesting, but it's just odd.

Then again, like I wrote -it's in the tradition of strange Gundam combos....

the über minimalist 00 designs.

Yeah - this is true. Insofar as some people complained that SEED was overload in terms of all the crap they would strap onto a Gundam, OO is like the opposite direction. The armor, when there is any, hugs the inner frame like skin and there's less industrial bulk to it.

But then again - it's just the same progression that most robot have made from the 70s to now - from boxy bulky to sleek and slender.

On that note - do you guys see the similarity between the OO Exia and the Movie Optimus Prime? The head design is very similar, and the arm mounted sword/blaster.... Or is it just kind of coincidence?

Pete

[eugimon]

Meh, giant bird wings, infinitely more silly than a "functional" but ugly as sin jet back thing...

[VFTF1]

Meh, giant bird wings, infinitely more silly than a "functional" but ugly as sin jet back thing...

Well - maybe. I dunno. I liked the Wing Zero - it DOES manage to catch your eye. And the MG Wing Zero was the very first Gundam I ever built. Oh how I messed it up. I broke the yellow crown coming off the rutters, and I generally didn't have a clue how to get the dry transfers on it...and when I did...I don't think I did it right... I got rid of it a while ago along with a couple other "first builds" which later I was dissatisfied with...

But if I ever get a PG, it'll probably be the Wing Zero. I have read that the MG is actually better for several reason, but whatever - I like the angel wings. I also vaguely remember watching Endless Waltz on cartoon network when I was in college - or at least part of it or something like that.

But it's not high priority or anything... Just kind of when/if I get around to it and more likely when/if a Wing Zero lands in my lap - maybe next year. Who knows...

Pete

[QuinJester]

As for the butterfly wings... which one would that be?

Turn A, maybe. It had a whole "butterfly effect" thing going on.

[VFTF1]

Turn A, maybe. It had a whole "butterfly effect" thing going on.

I have Turn A and I don't understand ....it has butterfly wings?

I think he might have been talking about full burst Strike Destiny or whatever it was called...that kind of looked like butterfly wings...

Pete

[QuinJester]

I have Turn A and I don't understand ....it has butterfly wings?

I think he might have been talking about full burst Strike Destiny or whatever it was called...that kind of looked like butterfly wings...

Pete

Oh, uh. Spoiler alerts, I suppose.

Talking about the show, not the model. At the finale of the show, both the Turn A and Turn X exhibit something called a "Moonlight Butterly" effect, which makes them sprout glowing butterfly wings of death.

Sketch Linky: http://www.mahq.net/MECHA/GUNDAM/turn-a/li...9-moonlight.jpg

Edited November 25, 2009 by QuinJester

[Snail00]

Yeag, but there are better and worse add on parts.

In Macross, the super packs and armor make sense. Super packs allow you to travel further distances in space - that's important if you want to go somewhere fast - like Hikaru wanting to escort Misa all the way to Earth. The armor helps when you want your battroid to serve as a walking artilery station.

Gundam's record is half and half. I think most of the packs in SEED actually do make sense. They're diverse enough - some of them are flight packs, others artillery etc etc. All of them are sensible in design - as is most of SEED mecha actually (unlike SEED anime).

The Super Robot add ons are also fine because they are supper robots.

But sometimes someone some where drops the ball. Hate to say it, but the O Raiser might be an example. It's a beautiful PG kit - but is makes absolutely no sense.

I mean - it makes less sense than any other backpack on a robot that I've ever encountered -seriously.

Pete

really? less than that one gundam that has giant glowing butterfly wings? or the one with giant dove wings?

Anyways, I don't care for the raiser thing either, adds too much clutter for me.

Yes - because the Wing Zero custom, in my opinion, is at least aesthetically pleasing. Sure, it's not functional, but it's artistic and lends an air of angelic nobility to the Gundam. As for the butterfly wings... which one would that be?

The problem I have with the O Raiser is that it's just odd. I'm not spasmatic about it or anything, I will grant that the design is interesting, but it's just odd.

Then again, like I wrote -it's in the tradition of strange Gundam combos....

Yeah - this is true. Insofar as some people complained that SEED was overload in terms of all the crap they would strap onto a Gundam, OO is like the opposite direction. The armor, when there is any, hugs the inner frame like skin and there's less industrial bulk to it.

But then again - it's just the same progression that most robot have made from the 70s to now - from boxy bulky to sleek and slender.

On that note - do you guys see the similarity between the OO Exia and the Movie Optimus Prime? The head design is very similar, and the arm mounted sword/blaster.... Or is it just kind of coincidence?

Pete

Ahem

Backpack wings or Winged Utility Packs are very Useful

IE Stabilizers

Weapons Platform

Escape Module

Extra Armor

More hardpoints ie harder to pin point your blast when you have more surface area

the reasoning is sound and almost limitless.

So i Will agree they are needed. Heck have you seen any soldiers in IRAQ goddam looks like a car on their backs.

Here a few very different Back Pack usages from different gundams

Wing Custom. Used as a stabilizer, a source of fear(intimidation), More access points for false targeting, Stabilizers, armor

Sandrock and Death Scythe...Sandrock was more of a cape and used as a clocking device whereas Death Scythe was used for armor and intimidation.

Destiny. THe so called butterfly wings provided high velocity thrust, consider that in space!!! for a moment! The huge buster sword would still need velocity to gut a well armored gundam. Also provide faster maneuring vectoring for more agility at higher speeds and stabilization points. Also the recoil on a rail gun in space would be immense and hense would act as inertia asborber or stabilzer

Sword Impluse not a wing per say but pack back with 2 smaller winges that acted as an independant drone essentially make 2 offensive weapons from one. Also quick acces weapons platform for added melee combat. IE the two beam boomerangs.

Justice. Also had a drone feature giving it more offensive options. Stability, Increased Speed. Can be used as melee weapons with the Beam wings. It has two smaller beam cannons and can basically evicerate smaller vehicles and be a smart bomb

Luca's Customer Strike E ISWP

OH MY GOD if ever a weapons platform. Took an older model and made it competitive by redesigning the gundam slightly and adding a wing pack. You have two smaller buster swords. TWO HUUUUUUGE beam cannons, Incredible increase in speed with the added boosters along with agility and two smaller beam cannons. The thing is INSANE yeah i want it to see go against a regular none back pack equpped gundam sorry bye bye

Aile Strike, Kinda of a start with Winged backpacks but probably a discovery that the frame of the gundam was very suitable for additional wing packs

Added thrust and manuervability and added 2 extra beam swords....

Turn A's wings were the effect of using too much of the nanotech machines.

Strike Freedom

Duh.....Need a say more. A near clone of the HiNu Gundam/Nu Gundam (which buy the way were considered the most powerful gundams in the Gundamverse). 8 Hard POINTS 8.8.8.8.8.8.8.8.8.!!!!! yes 8. Better be a dam good pilot and shot! Extra thrust. Catch me if you can!. Stability for 2 Railguns and a BEAM chest ray of death! Shields in the case of the Nu Gundams uh uh yeah I will take a wing pack please thank you

So successful was the Wing Packed Nu Gundam that the baddies said screw that man and gave the zaku prototype a Zasabi a wing pack with Multiple weapons verniers

Blue Frame wing pack UM MEGA SWORD of death anyone??????....... Most versatile of all the wing packs. Speed, vectoring. more hard points, can act as a shield in Buster sword form, Gatling BEAM GUNG WITH SHEILD PLATFORM SUPPORTS@! ...... Just beautiful

Zeta had wing packs .... it TRANSFORMED!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will say it again IT TRANSFORMED. So much of this wing pack back or back pack in general reallly gave the country and pilot and edge over other gundams without. So much so it usually pitted a ultra -zaku clone prototype to get even close on level footing.

So now we have the 00 and 0 Reiser. As i mentioned the two probably converged to solve a problem which a board member kindly cleared up. Why was it so big. Well probably to provide a stable power output and an shield in an increase of overall stress on the 00 frame. So while the jet portion hanging of the back looks a little weird i can understand its versatility. the side binders are able to rotate and dispense Beam weapons, Also, the jet portion and its large size could act like another hardpoint, become a ghost drone or be piloted by another to have 2 offensive weapons. If the pilot is injured the 0 raiser could assume command and control.

Now im a huge fan of Macross... I love the jets/robots thing. Never even knew what gundam was until Wing appeared in syndicate. Now i will admit that it makes more sense for none transforming robots as transforming mecha there can be mistakes in pistons and gears reorienting themselves. It would be simpler to add a backpack or other vehicle to merge with minimal strutural change.

thats my take

[Snail00]

Yep, the inner frame of the PG 00 isn't on the same ball park as the awesome PG Strike frame; but I guess that is to be expected from the über minimalist 00 designs. Still, I really hope I can beat my laziness and paint the inner frame in a dark grey tone. It makes it stand out a lot better than the plain black:

Hope some day they do an EX-S, now THAT would have a kick ass inner frame

Two part video review (the raiser loaded up looks huge):

The binders wiggle a bit. Hope the connection parts are strong.

a shed of tears in anticipation of this monster coming in the mail! SNIFF

[dizman]

Im probably not the first to notice this but that o-raiser jet thing looks alot like the VF-2 with SAP (just no super railgun). I'd buy a PG ZZ or Ex-S if bandai ever had the time to make them, man that would be a fun build.

[doodler7]

I've purchased all Bandai PGs , they are very pose able...but I've yet to see mobility on the torso area for the ultimate posing feature. I don't see any on this 00. I've already pre ordered it. I'm in the process of actually modifying my PG RX-78 to be able to this feature, but the core fighter will have to be eliminated.

I've noticed that a lot of gundam designs for space requires a lot of back pack accessories, especially G-System designs.

But hey, this is still a great looking model, the 00. I have the DX 1/60 kit posing on top of my G5, I've started to like it. I'm hoping to post the full armored VF-25S with the 00 and the RX-78 with a VF-1.

[Twoducks]

Boy does the inner frame of the 00 PG look great painted up!:

[Snail00]

Boy does the inner frame of the 00 PG look great painted up!:

wow

cant wait