ntsan Posted November 11, 2008 Posted November 11, 2008 hwjapan have 10% discount, though I wish they use their 20% off bandai rrp haha http://www.hwjapan.com/sh/BAN08110651.aspx
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 I'm getting 2 as well. One for battroid mode and one for fighter mode. This way, I won't have to bother with constant parts-forming. Don't forget to get a third for Gerwalk and a fourth for Fighter with the landing gear down. I like the 1/100 scale as much as the next guy, but Toynami's VF-1 is as far as I go when it comes to part swapping. If Bandai ever releases the VF-2ss I'll have no choice but to to get a whole wing of them. In this case, if I was so fond of the 25, I'd get the DX instead. It looks the same and at least that one is PT.
Queen Kittan Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 Okay. I've decided the parts swapping is a bit much for me. These figs just aren't worth it for me. Are there going to be properly transforming figs in this size range?
jenius Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 Okay. I've decided the parts swapping is a bit much for me. These figs just aren't worth it for me. Are there going to be properly transforming figs in this size range? None currently planned at this price/size range.
Vifam7 Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 Okay. I've decided the parts swapping is a bit much for me. These figs just aren't worth it for me. Are there going to be properly transforming figs in this size range? Not likely. It's probably near impossible to make perfect transformation in this scale unless you're willing to accept serious compromises to the scupt or build quality.
Queen Kittan Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) I don't mind simplified/cheaty transformation, and I disagree. Studio Half Eye does a lot of stuff smaller. I guess it's pretty fragile but 1/100 Macross is a little larger than those. There needs to be Macross figures similar to deluxe Henkei Transformers. I'd buy a Valk of a similar quality to Henkei screamer, though preferably a little better as Screamer is one of the more simple ones. Edited November 17, 2008 by Queen Kittan
Vifam7 Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) I don't mind simplified/cheaty transformation, and I disagree. Studio Half Eye does a lot of stuff smaller. I guess it's pretty fragile but 1/100 Macross is a little larger than those. Yeah, but have you noticed the price on Studio Halfeye products? You wanna pay double or triple the current price? And IIRC, SHE toys aren't exactly the sturdiest things. There needs to be Macross figures similar to deluxe Henkei Transformers. I'd buy a Valk of a similar quality to Henkei screamer, though preferably a little better as Screamer is one of the more simple ones. You mean like this toy? That's more of a Banpresto cranegame prize/gashapon territory. It could happen. Edited November 17, 2008 by Vifam7
ntsan Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 Only the toynami have 1/100 perfect transform.. at cheap quality.
Sumdumgai Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 I don't remember the details of Macross II valkyries, but I found this floating around on the sea known as the internet. Is this a VF-2 valkyrie II or something that just looks similar? Because it's kind of what I remember the valkyries looking like in Macross II.
emajnthis Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 It's not a VF-2SS Valk II, but it definitely carries a striking resemblance; pretty cool though
UN Spacy Posted November 20, 2008 Author Posted November 20, 2008 I believe that's from Gundam 00 (Season 2).
Sumdumgai Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 Ah okay, sorry to get hopes up guys. I don't watch Gundam. Thought maybe it was a prototype on display that people hadn't picked up on yet. Oh well!
Ghost Train Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 It's called the "Orizer" and is supposed to dock up with Gundam 00... though it has yet to make an appearance in season 2 yet .
DarkReaper Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) it does look a bit like that guy. Edited November 20, 2008 by DarkReaper
azrael Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 It's called the "Orizer" and is supposed to dock up with Gundam 00... though it has yet to make an appearance in season 2 yet . "0-Raiser". I think it's due out in December.
Lobizon Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Here the "VF-2SS Valkyrie II" and the "0-Raiser" Lobi Edit: Sorry for the off topic azrael, I only try to give you a help with the difference between thr VF-2SS Valkyrie II and the 0-Raiser Edited November 20, 2008 by Lobizon
Ghost Train Posted November 20, 2008 Posted November 20, 2008 "0-Raiser". I think it's due out in December. Acknowledged... I only have "Engrish Transliteration" trained to level 2.
IXTL Posted November 21, 2008 Posted November 21, 2008 From the Miyazawa Show http://blog.hobbystock.jp/report/2008/11/hm0037.html
David Hingtgen Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Non-chunky+transformed correctly=purchase-worthy.
Alex Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) Did someone have a good explanation for why (seeing as these ARE parts-formers) the hip placement is STILL wrong? Edited November 22, 2008 by Alex
Black Valkyrie Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Full of PVC, it looks like an EMSIA or Robot Spirit.
Alex Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Full of PVC, it looks like an EMSIA or Robot Spirit. I thought that these were very light on the Pee-Vee-Cee.
SDF-ONE Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Did someone have a good explanation for why (seeing as these ARE parts-formers) the hip placement is STILL wrong? Well it certainly seems like they were purposefully designed that way, so perhaps Bandai does not think of it as wrong. If you look at the Gundams, their leg-torso seems grow with each year. Apparently long legs are more attractive (abcnews), but by now Bandai has clearly overshot this ratio. Either that or they had orders not to deviate from the 1/60 DX too much.
sidearmsalpha Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Well it certainly seems like they were purposefully designed that way, so perhaps Bandai does not think of it as wrong. If you look at the Gundams, their leg-torso seems grow with each year. Apparently long legs are more attractive (abcnews), but by now Bandai has clearly overshot this ratio. Either that or they had orders not to deviate from the 1/60 DX too much. But if it's not anime-accurate, why would they do it like that? I doubt there's some design issue that prevents the legs from attaching lower. Makes these Valks look even more buglike than they already do with an abdomen-like attachment or like they're prairie-doggin' it.
mojacko Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 loooking gud!!! the cockpit aint that bad......nice form!!!
SDF-ONE Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) But if it's not anime-accurate, why would they do it like that? I doubt there's some design issue that prevents the legs from attaching lower. Makes these Valks look even more buglike than they already do with an abdomen-like attachment or like they're prairie-doggin' it. This design is clearly an artistic choice. They had no restrictions since they are using part swapping. So, indeed why? Perhaps Kawamori had a change of heart? Perhaps he prefers the valk with a short torso and long legs? We can only guess. edit: I thought this might be interesting. It shows that the CG model is already an interpretation (for obvious reasons) of the sketch. The designer originally had something chunkier in mind... Oh no, not chunky! Sketch from Dengeki. Edited November 22, 2008 by SDF-ONE
yellowlightman Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Wow, that sketch looks waaaaaay better than the 3D model.
Kyp Durron Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Non-chunky+transformed correctly=purchase-worthy. Indeed, I'll take one Ozma, please. -Kyp
OmegaD3k Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Did SK himself draw that sketch? I ask because I've seen him do better, and doubt it actually came from him. Might be a fan-drawing. In any case that sketch makes me appreciate the chunky (1/60 VF-25) much more! That is one awesome, awesome sketch!! Great find!
Vifam7 Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) This design is clearly an artistic choice. They had no restrictions since they are using part swapping. So, indeed why? The more I look at this toy, I think it's because the designers wanted the legs to be able to splay outwards into the Y-stance. I think if you bring the legs to crotch connection point lower, the crotch piece and intakes area get in each others way when trying to do that stance. Perhaps this is one area where there is still some anime magic to overcome. Edited November 22, 2008 by Vifam7
Vifam7 Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) Did SK himself draw that sketch? I ask because I've seen him do better, and doubt it actually came from him. Might be a fan-drawing. In any case that sketch makes me appreciate the chunky (1/60 VF-25) much more! That is one awesome, awesome sketch!! Great find! Looks like a SK sketch to me. Definitely not a fanart since Satelight copyright notice is seen in the Dengeki site article. Edited November 22, 2008 by Vifam7
UN Spacy Posted November 22, 2008 Author Posted November 22, 2008 The CG model looks like Kate Moss on crack. Gimme the thick Kawamori sketch anyday.
theplasticwerks Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Chunky or not, I must recreate that scheme!
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Did SK himself draw that sketch? I ask because I've seen him do better, and doubt it actually came from him. Might be a fan-drawing. In any case that sketch makes me appreciate the chunky (1/60 VF-25) much more! That is one awesome, awesome sketch!! Great find! I think it is a Kawamori sketch, it is very similar to his sketches from Macross 7 on up.
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