sucker4meltrans Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) Which of the above had the death with the most GAR!! in it? Edited August 29, 2008 by azrael
USCOLMRNE Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Guld's death in Macross Plus Movie Edition is the craziest death I have ever seen. *salute* Guld Goa Bowman
dreamweaver13 Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 michael! after just watching ep20, how in hell could i vote any other way?? check back again in 5 weeks or so. btw, since you differentiated between SDFM and DYRL Roy, might as well differentiate between Guld Bowman movie edition, and Guld Bowman OAV edition. makes a helluva a lot of difference, if you ask me.
Kronnang Dunn Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Roy in DYRL all the way... Similar to Michael's (which I was about to pick, but decided to give the vote to the classic one instead)... But exploded instead of being sucked by space vacuum after dying...
wolfx Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 I will laugh at this thread if Michel comes back next episode. But assuming he did die, his was definately manliest.
JB0 Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 It was close, but I voted DYRL Focker. Was that or Gamlin. ... What, he lived? Oh, my mistake. Was thinking of Bowman.
Morpheus Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 No Gilliam? Being juiced by Vajra is not a man way to die, Gilliam should stay on the VF-25 and dying with it. Michel on the other hand, died while saving his love, and manage to take down the Vajra who impale him, his last word is also manly. The manliest death.....should go to SDF:M Kakizaki....hours before his demise he want to eat steak not knowing he will became one later (superheated human steak that is).
Graham Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 What's GAR? Kinryu should definitely be on the list. Graham
Cybergig1 Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) haha too good, I know I first saw things about "GAR" in an episode of "ToLoveRu" basically just means to be manly anyways from the time I saw Macross Plus movie edition until yesterday I would have always said Guld. However after episode 20 of MF its definitely Michael. Not to take away from Guld but Michaels sacrifice has just had a bigger impact on me. Gulds had that "wow holy $#it" kinda feel whereas I almost feel like I'm still mourning over Michael this morning coming into work. It just was that painful yet that bad@$$ on his part the way he went down. Edited August 22, 2008 by Cybergig1
grss1982 Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 What's GAR? Kinryu should definitely be on the list. Graham Found this in one of the animesuki threads: GAR means that a character is very manly, acts very manly, or is just so awesome as a guy that we all bow down before him.
Impreszive Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Michel went out fighting, and got to tell the 60 foot tall chick that he loved her. That's a pretty decent death, in my opinion.
grss1982 Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Michel went out fighting, and got to tell the 60 foot tall chick that he loved her. That's a pretty decent death, in my opinion. It is a very Impreszive Death Scene. I also vote for this death seqeunce as the most manliest.
Gubaba Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Who's Roy Fokker? And what's DYRM? (Sorry, someone had to say it... )
ruskiiVFaussie Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) Sorry, didn't need to read any further than Guld's name. I can't imagine anyone going through the pain barrier and succeed in achieveing his goal like he did... Roy DYRL? psshh, he got sloppy. Roy SDF series, 2nd place. DD... 3rd spot. Poor Nora... he gave his all and didn't last long. (not that anyone would lol) haven't seen the other two get the ick, spoilers piss me off so i'l place them last. Edited August 22, 2008 by ruskiiVFaussie
Roy Focker Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Shame I'm not on the list. Gigile is off of it. Sure it takes balls to sing your heart out but it doesn't make you look manly.
Mercurial Morpheus Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Damn spoilers. Went with Roy TV. The man was shot up badly, but still made his engagement and even strummed a little guitar, all with gapping holes in his back. Though Guld Movie is awesome as well.
yui1107 Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Ｄｏ ｙｏｕ ｒｅｍｅｎｂｅｒ guy "Dennis Lone"? He was civilian,but good photo/movie Journalist?
Duke Togo Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Guld, by a mile. If for some very strange reason you voted for Michel, go back and watch Plus again. Especially the movie version. Man, I just don't know how you could vote for anyone over Guld here.
Duke Togo Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Being "gar" doesn't mean being manly. The term comes from a misspelling of "gay". The idea being, a male character did something so manly, so heroic, that you were able to suspend your heterosexual-ness. I think this originated on 4chan, but don't quote me on this. For instance, Gurren Lagann fans could be said to be "gar for Kamina". I guess it could be said that a character being "gar" means he is acting in such a way to make you "gar" for them, but that's not how the term originated.
Cybergig1 Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 ah Kamina, had to remind me of him, now I have to relieve the pain of his death and Michael's all at the same time haha. I still stand by the Michael over Guld statement. I definitely know what your saying in that regard however again my main reason for that (and it may just be because I'm still coming off the shock of his death) it just had a bigger effect on me. When Guld died it was like it was expected of him, as odd as that sounds. And he definitely pushed his body well past its limits. So maybe months from now when I'm not so down about the whole Michael just bought it stick I can rethink and compare them more objectively. yeah and no idea about the GAR thing. First time I ever really saw it mentioned was an episode of ToLoveRu some months back and it had a caption saying "basically meaning manly" and the whole episode the guy was trying to look manly. So never really questioned it. Thanks for the heads up!
timmystyle Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Should there be a seperate thread for least manly death? If not, I nominate Leon and his stupid haircut, screaming when Klan eats him.
Chief Guld Goa Bowman Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 You already know who I voted for!
RF-26AAC Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Guld, by a mile. Guld died a FAR, FAR more painful death and died to kill that ghost. Guld basically killed himself with his own sword, committing Harakiri pretty much whereas Michael was already critically injured. While Michael's death scene was SPECTACULAR, Guld's death was so badass and manly it was unbelievable. He had the discipline to keep going, keep fighting as his own weight began to crush him, hurt him with a level of pain that I have immense respect for him continuing to fight through-- the discipline necessary to fight to the very death. HIS EFFING EYEBALLS EXPLODED AND HIS ORGANS COLLAPSED UNDER THEIR OWN WEIGHT, MAN!! HOW MANLY IS THAT?! GULD, F T W.
ruskiiVFaussie Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Ｄｏ ｙｏｕ ｒｅｍｅｎｂｅｒ guy "Dennis Lone"? He was civilian,but good photo/movie Journalist? This thread is "bullsh^t!" :lol:
whispo Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 (edited) Who's Roy Fokker? And what's DYRM? (Sorry, someone had to say it... ) He's the stunt double for Roy Focker in the Macross 7 version of DYRL. Although this might seem like an influenced decision because ep 20 just aired, I still vote for Michel. This has nothing to do with the fact that his death was so awsome, but more with the fact that he sounded scared/regretfull when dying. Beeing that open for the first time (concerning love) makes Michel more braver then we've ever seen him .... plus it sounds so cool. He proved himself to be a Man while he was really just a frightened kid. So yeah, Michel gets my vote, though Guld comes in on a seccond place, really really close to Michel Edited August 22, 2008 by whispo
Sumdumgai Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Michel Blanc. The reason he wins over Guld is that despite his death being a sacrifice to help protect Myung by giving Isamu a chance to save her, it was also atonement for his past actions. If we go with Guld's movie version death, he went through way more pain than in the OVA which was a simple ramming. Roy in SDFM died a manly death, managing to make it to see Claudia one last time despite mortal injuries. Roy in DYRL died a manly death, killing a very tenacious Kamjin, and allowing Hikaru and Misa to escape. Gigile died a manly death in sacrificing himself to save Sivil from impending doom. Doesn't look that manly in singing. Kinryu died a manly death in sacrificing himself to protect the Macross 7 fleet. Kakizaki SDFM went out like a redshirt, pointless death. Kakizaki DYRL, went out laughing, not even knowing what hit him. Ivanov went out like a b!tch. All his piloting skill amounted to nothing when it came to attempt to avenge Nora. Michel protected his woman from immanent death, took down a number of enemies, and managed to give Klan Klan a truthful answer. The way the scene was set up and executed made it much more powerful than any of the previous death scenes I had watched in the Macross series.
MjrMisaHayase Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 When I first heard of this topic, Roy's death from DYRL came to mind. And that's why I've voted that option from the poll.
Shaka_Z Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 indeed... my vote stays with michel for the same reasons, although Guld does come a close second.
sharky Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 Why I oughta....! I hadn't seen ep 20 yet. Not that I didn't have my suspicions that he would die. I like to wait until I can get a subbed version. Spoiler alert please.
DarkReaper Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 (edited) Meh, I got michel's death spoilered in a thread here while it was still in the 12h spoiler bracket. Edited August 23, 2008 by DarkReaper
Oihan Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 I'm with the other Guld Goa Bowman's in this thread. Micheal's was tragic...but I wouldn't say "gar."
mike_s_6 Posted August 23, 2008 Posted August 23, 2008 Another for Guld: He just realized how the woman he loved and best friend pitied his situation, how he ruined their friendship, and then was man enough to be sorry for it. And even after realizing that, stood to defend them, which caused his death. And... ouch for his death. His whole body must have caved in. Question though, what do you guys mean by a "manly death", and what makes one more manly than the other? Or is this just subjective?
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