Latest 1/48

[JELEINEN]

That's a rip if I ever seen one. You're telling me I have to spend $120 for a different head??? *Sigh*, when will the greed ever end?

Please say you're joking. So it has a different head, it's not like you're paying $120 for just the head. You're getting just as good a toy as before, why the hell would they charge less for it?

[dreambrother]

That's a rip if I ever seen one.  You're telling me I have to spend $120 for a different head???  *Sigh*, when will the greed ever end?

Please say you're joking. So it has a different head, it's not like you're paying $120 for just the head. You're getting just as good a toy as before, why the hell would they charge less for it?

No I'm not joking. It's the VF-1A with a 1S head. I think it's a ripoff. Some people like this version, I personally think it's a waste. I think they should at least give you the option to buy the head separately. Some people want both versions, and thats fine. This is only my opinion. It's not like the BT Smokescreen vs the Alternators where I can see a difference in pricing.

What really aggravates me is Yamato still can't get their QC together. Awesome valks, bad quality in construction.

[dreambrother]

That's a rip if I ever seen one.  You're telling me I have to spend $120 for a different head???  *Sigh*, when will the greed ever end?

Sigh. . .

Some of you need to get this through your head. . .

Some of us don't model. Some of us don't paint. Some of us wanted a Hikaru 1S. Yamato has made it available to those of us who want one.

The only way this would be a rip is:

1. They broke into your home and deposited one, and then forcibly removed the $120 from your wallet.

2. There is any evidence that this 1S has taken the place of a more desirable valk.

Considering neither of those are true (it hardly costs Yamato anything to put the Roy head on the 1A body), we need to stop acting like somehow Yamato is freakin' wronging us somehow.

I think this warrants some yelling: JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT SOMETHING DOESN'T MEAN YAMATO SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE IT OR THAT YAMATO IS BEING "UNIMAGINATIVE" OR DUMB.

H

I'm not saying I HAVE to buy one. I meant that I would HAVE to pay $120 to get one if I did want one.

[EXO]

but if they didn't sell it, there would be a couple of hundred people crying about why they never sold one... poor Yamato can never win... <_>

[imode]

tsk tsk.

The Macross toyline is only for those with completist syndrome. My opinion, spend the $120 so Yamato has more money to make new crap

Edited October 31, 2003 by imode

[Hurin]

I'm not saying I HAVE to buy one. I meant that I would HAVE to pay $120 to get one if I did want one.

Yeah. . . why didn't they just release one valkyrie. And then release a "head set" that would allow us to choose which valkyrie we want.

Oh, wait, that would mean that Yamato would sell far fewer valks. Which means they wouldn't make as much money.

Ah hell, they should do it anyway! Right? Because, after all, they aren't motivated by making money. They are making these toys out of the kindness of their hearts!

Where do you think Yamato is located? Communist China? Cuba?

Dude, they're making these to sell them to us.

For the life of me, I cannot understand why people feel entitled to certain Yamato products. Then, when Yamato does what their market research and plans dictate that they do. . . people actually feel like somehow they've been cheated, wronged, or robbed.

Get over yourselves. Yamato is in this to make a buck. It isn't greed. It's just the nature of a free market.

And, even if you want to call it greed. . . the free market and "greed" are the reasons you have any Macross products (or even Anime) at all!

So, my advice: Buy the Valkyries you want, say "thank you Yamato", and go about your business.

H

[Uxi]

Nice, I like the box, but still think the Low-Viz is better. Hikaru 1J box looks nice, too.

I'll decide if I can live with the head/face seem or not and can find a good deal....

[Hurin]

I've figured it out what's so annoying (to me) about each thread that takes place whenever something new from Yamato is announced. It isn't so much the whining. . . it's how so many people want to "play the victim."

Now, when most people think to themselves: "Gee, it really would only take a few stickers and a 1S head to make this 1A Hikaru a 1S". . . I would hope most of us start thinking about way to buy, trade, or otherwise create a 1S head.

Indeed, some of us might even get around to asking Yamato to send us one. But, when we're told that they won't sell the heads seperately. . . we have to ask why.

The answer, obviously, is that Yamato will make a lot more money selling you a complete Hikaru 1S later. Or, if you can't wait, they're betting the collectors will be willing to buy a Roy 1S in the meantime and use that head. Either way. . . it is the difference between Yamato making $50-100 on a complete valk. . . or $2 on a freakin' head part.

As a freakin' business. . . which one makes the most sense?!? As the CEO of Yamato, if you decide to start selling the heads seperately. . . you should be fired. Case closed.

But. . . that's not where it ends. All that matters to most people is what they want. The laws of economics and common sense be damned! "But, Yamato, don't you see, I really want a 1S head. Why do you have to be so mean! Your'e just greedy!"

I'll say it again. Greed is why we have these valks in the first place. Instead of playing the victim and constantly whining about how unfair the world is. . . how about counting your blessings for once.

Sheesh. . .

H

Edited October 31, 2003 by Hurin

[imode]

I've figured it out what's so annoying (to me) about each thread that takes place whenever something new from Yamato is announced. It isn't so much the whining. . . it's how so many people want to "play the victim."

Now, when most people think to themselves: "Gee, it really would only take a few stickers and a 1S head to make this 1A Hikaru a 1S". . . I would hope most of us start thinking about way to buy, trade, or otherwise create a 1S head.

Indeed, some of us might even get around to asking Yamato to send us one. But, when we're told that they won't sell the heads seperately. . . we have to ask why.

The answer, obviously, is that Yamato will make a lot more money selling you a complete Hikaru 1S later. Or, if you can't wait, they're betting the collectors will be willing to buy a Roy 1S in the meantime and use that head. Either way. . . it is the difference between Yamato making $50-100 on a complete valk. . . or $2 on a freakin' head part.

As a freakin' business. . . which one makes the most sense?!? As the CEO of Yamato, if you decide to start selling the heads seperately. . . you should be fired. Case closed.

But. . . that's not where it ends. All that matters to most people is what they want. The laws of economics and common sense be damned! "But, Yamato, don't you see, I really want a 1S head. Why do you have to be so mean! Your'e just greedy!"

I'll say it again. Greed is why we have these valks in the first place. Instead of playing the victim and constantly whining about how unfair the world is. . . how about counting your blessings for once.

Sheesh. . .

H

You can also think about it this way... all the mistakes and different heads and paintschemes was all done to bring you the most perfect 1S DYRL valk, ever.

[EXO]

I would probably buy more if they came out with a blank kit with different heads. It wouldn't stop me from buying the different schemes they sold but it would be cool to have a custom ready valk. maybe when they exhausted their VF-1 line... and an all white 1/48 would be aaaalll right!!!

[Stampeed Valkyrie]

Or in other words if at first Yamato doesn't succeed buy, buy again seriously I like this one and like what has been repeated before I have always wanted a Hikaru Strike. Combine this with my recent Low-Viz which restored my faith in the 1/48 line and my poor wallet is really hurting. As long as there arent any obvious QC issues this valk should rock.

Rob

[Skull-1]

tsk tsk.

The Macross toyline is only for those with completist syndrome. My opinion, spend the $120 so Yamato has more money to make new crap

That's the whole damned problem. If Yamato would put out a TV Max and Milia "J" then I would spend money on those. THEN let Yamato rip the rest of you off with the "S" Hikaru (at least a customized Bandai has a different paint job for crying out loud). As it stands they'll waste money on this stupid ripoff and we'll never see the Valks that most of us really want: M&M, CF, Elint, etc. because they won't make money to spend on "new crap."

[Skull-1]

As a freakin' business. . . which one makes the most sense?!? As the CEO of Yamato, if you decide to start selling the heads seperately. . . you should be fired. Case closed.

How about doing something imaginative for a change? M&M "J" models will sell a lot better than this piece of crap. The Yamato marketing people have their heads up their ass if you ask me. The Low Viz is the only homerun they've hit thus far...

[JELEINEN]

No I'm not joking. It's the VF-1A with a 1S head. I think it's a ripoff. Some people like this version, I personally think it's a waste. I think they should at least give you the option to buy the head separately. Some people want both versions, and thats fine. This is only my opinion. It's not like the BT Smokescreen vs the Alternators where I can see a difference in pricing.

What really aggravates me is Yamato still can't get their QC together. Awesome valks, bad quality in construction.

It's not a rip-off. Unless, for some bizarre reason, the toy suddenly sucks, it's worth just as much as all the other ones that've been released. You don't want a Hikaru 1s; that's fine. Neither do I. But to call it a rip-off is just asinine.

[Apollo Leader]

Just to add a few thoughts to this thread:

1) No one is holding a gun to anyone's head here to buy any of these toys. Don't buy it at all or wait until you can buy it cheaper.

2) Yamato wanted to make it so these 1/48th Valks could have swappable heads, but Big West shot that idea down.

3) The Hikaru VF-1S will have all the improvements done to the 1/48th series... thus it is a different toy then the Hikaru VF-1A from almost a year ago.

4)People (like me!) are glad that the Hikaru VF-1S is being made a reality by Yamato especially since Bandai gave us the chaff.

[imode]

tsk tsk.

The Macross toyline is only for those with completist syndrome.  My opinion, spend the $120 so Yamato has more money to make new crap

That's the whole damned problem. If Yamato would put out a TV Max and Milia "J" then I would spend money on those. THEN let Yamato rip the rest of you off with the "S" Hikaru (at least a customized Bandai has a different paint job for crying out loud). As it stands they'll waste money on this stupid ripoff and we'll never see the Valks that most of us really want: M&M, CF, Elint, etc. because they won't make money to spend on "new crap."

I have no doubt in my mind that Yamato will release a M&M J. A custom Bandai may have a different paintjob, but that can't help a toy that fundamentally looks like a piece of sh1t.

By the way, I think you're a minority in the whole Yamato 1S Hikaru thing. You may not buy it, but there's always 10 more people that will. And just think, there's probably fans lying in wait who didn't pick up the 1A Hikaru just because it wasn't the 1S they were hoping for. I don't know where you people get this idea that Yamato is losing money on their 1/48 line.

[wasabi-elephant]

Just to add a few thoughts to this thread:

1) No one is holding a gun to anyone's head here to buy any of these toys.  Don't buy it at all or wait until you can buy it cheaper.

.......

3) The Hikaru VF-1S will have all the improvements done to the 1/48th series... thus it is a different toy then the Hikaru VF-1A from almost a year ago.

Couldn't agree more...... ...but I think I might pass this one too & spend that on VF-1J w/FP.....my budget is really tight.....

Edited November 1, 2003 by wasabi-elephant

[Sumdumgai]

I've figured it out what's so annoying (to me) about each thread that takes place whenever something new from Yamato is announced. It isn't so much the whining. . . it's how so many people want to "play the victim."

Now, when most people think to themselves: "Gee, it really would only take a few stickers and a 1S head to make this 1A Hikaru a 1S". . . I would hope most of us start thinking about way to buy, trade, or otherwise create a 1S head.

Indeed, some of us might even get around to asking Yamato to send us one. But, when we're told that they won't sell the heads seperately. . . we have to ask why.

The answer, obviously, is that Yamato will make a lot more money selling you a complete Hikaru 1S later. Or, if you can't wait, they're betting the collectors will be willing to buy a Roy 1S in the meantime and use that head. Either way. . . it is the difference between Yamato making $50-100 on a complete valk. . . or $2 on a freakin' head part.

As a freakin' business. . . which one makes the most sense?!? As the CEO of Yamato, if you decide to start selling the heads seperately. . . you should be fired. Case closed.

But. . . that's not where it ends. All that matters to most people is what they want. The laws of economics and common sense be damned! "But, Yamato, don't you see, I really want a 1S head. Why do you have to be so mean! Your'e just greedy!"

I'll say it again. Greed is why we have these valks in the first place. Instead of playing the victim and constantly whining about how unfair the world is. . . how about counting your blessings for once.

Sheesh. . .

H

Good points! I've noticed too that besides the complaints there's a lot of "victime syndrome". I'm fine with bitching about QC issues, but bitching for Yamato releasing something new doesn't make any sense to me.

Hell, if they decided to make the VA-3 which I personally dislike, I wouldn't bitch about it. I wouldn't buy it, but hell if other people like it and will buy it, wtf is the problem?

I'm thankful that Yamato's around making Valkyries! The alternative are vintage toys, Bandai re-releases, or that MPC crap.

I'm waiting for new non-VF-1 valks, but I find it amusing to watch and see how far they can milk the VF-1 line. With all the customs they can do, the sky's the limit!

[imode]

Heh, if you think about it...

Do you think Yamato would rather:

A. Sell you the pieces for $40 and let you put it together yourself.

-or-

B. Pay some Chinese guy five bucks an hour to put it all together and sell it for $100 more.

[Hurin]

How about doing something imaginative for a change? M&M "J" models will sell a lot better than this piece of crap. The Yamato marketing people have their heads up their ass if you ask me. The Low Viz is the only homerun they've hit thus far...

Do you actually think that isn't in the works? Doing these variants isn't taking much resources. . . meanwhile the work continues on the Hikaru 1J (which requires a full repaint and new head sculpt). . . the 1/60 GBP, Q-rau, and Monster. . . all the while, Yamato is raking in money with the 1/48 variants. With the parts already made and only heads needing to be swapped and minor paint details changed, these variants are probably largely profit. Ever wonder why the skulls were crooked on both the 1A and the 1S? Because they were (probably) all made during the same production run! They just paint a yellow or red strip on the top and voila! You have the appropriate part!

I say again, these variants are bringing in a lot of low-overhead cash for Yamato. . . and that should make you happy. That means that the company will remain solvent and allow them to be around long enough to provide you with your more "imaginative" M&M VF-1J models. . . and much more. . .

I say again. . . sigh. . .

H

[Mechafan]

3) The Hikaru VF-1S will have all the improvements done to the 1/48th series... thus it is a different toy then the Hikaru VF-1A from almost a year ago.

4)People (like me!) are glad that the Hikaru VF-1S is being made a reality by Yamato especially since Bandai gave us the chaff.

I am with you on that. I rather pay for this one with FP then to get a yellow Bandai one on Ebay for over $200. I say buy what you like and the rest leave it on the shelf.

[Golden Arms]

Well Said Hurin and Imode. For Yamato to get the most out of thier money, which went into designing and producing the 1/48. They need to exhaust the current molds. To do that means making a Hikaru Vf-1s. Once they've recouped exspenses, then they'll be at liberty to design and produce some of the other valk designs that fans are clamoring over. Really simple logic folks. That same reasoning assures us of the possibilty of a M&M, CF, and insert other scheme of choice in the 1/48 line. So I don't get the constant bickering. I decided to pass on the Hikaru Vf-1s for the time being so I could save up for the 1/48 super vf-1J and the armored vf-1J. With a 1/48 Hikaru vf-1j on the way, do you guys really expect the M&M 1j's to be that far behind? I don't think so.

[Extra Large Mumma]

The valk looks very nice. No complaint from yours truly. If I'd only buy one, it has to be the Hikaru 1S or Roy 1S. Fortunately for me and Yamato, I'll also be buying all three variants of the 1J when they come up. Thanks for posting the pics, wasabi.

[TheFrenchOne]

Here come the 1S Hikaru on eBay !

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=3251018022

OMG less than 140USD for a vf 1S Hikaru shipped

[NSJ23]

Here come the 1S Hikaru on eBay !

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=3251018022

OMG less than 140USD for a vf 1S Hikaru shipped

Cool! looks like my E-bay Macross/1/48 supplier has got his shipment in. YES!!!!!

Oh, Wait I don't have any money.

[blugts]

Wow! It's seems that some people are rather upset that the Hikaru 1S is out. I for one already have it on pre-order and am happy it is being made. I suffer from completist syndrome so I don't care if it's a 1S in a different color.

For goodness sake people, please don't bash Yamato for making a Valk that is in the freaking anime. We all know that all the jets in the Macross saga are inspired by one design. At least they are not inventing Valks like some other company

True, they could make a interchangable head thing or something, but like H has hinted, the real world is based on money cause we all gotta make a living. If you dont' want to shell out the $, then go custom and say "I'll pass" like other people have said. No need to bad mouth Yamato.

[myk]

1) No one is holding a gun to anyone's head here to buy any of these toys.  Don't buy it at all or wait until you can buy it cheaper.

Seriously. Just buy what you want/need. So far, I only own the '48 1A and 'Low Vis. I plan to get the Roy '1S reissue, and maybe a 3rd set of 'Paks but other than that I can't see buying anymore. Approximate total: $460.00 (before reissue and 'Pak #3). See how easy that is?!

Edited November 1, 2003 by myk

[Ensign G]

For goodness sake people, please don't bash Yamato for making a Valk that is in the freaking anime. We all know that all the jets in the Macross saga are inspired by one design. At least they are not inventing Valks like some other company

Isn't the low viz an invention? hehehe. Well, at least i'm planning on getting it. The Hikaru 1S looks a little too "explosive" but this is the Valk that i've been waiting for all my life!

[blugts]

For goodness sake people, please don't bash Yamato for making a Valk that is in the freaking anime.  We all know that all the jets in the Macross saga are inspired by one design.  At least they are not inventing Valks like some other company

Isn't the low viz an invention? hehehe. Well, at least i'm planning on getting it. The Hikaru 1S looks a little too "explosive" but this is the Valk that i've been waiting for all my life!

Ooops, the low-viz is an invention . Forgot about that one since I'm not too fond of it <_<

[grassland]

Back track a bit, The day i started collecting all this VF-1 series, i told myself everything is the same except the head but i could not just collect the head itself, the valkyrie come as a complete item. but if i want to collect everything, then i cant complain but save and eat cup noodle and buy all the valkyrie that i miss out about 20 years ago. and i have to add buying the valkyrie is not over, i have to buy a big showcase to display them so i can see them everyday. I dont think anybody here keep them in the box after playing/transforming them everyday.

[Aegis!]

Oh mate , you people make me laugh to death with you silly little debates about this toys , is like someone´s life depended on them

I personally don´t care about all this crap , I just buy the toys I want and thank Yamato for making this toys.

I´ll probably get a 1S when it is re-released ( [does anyone know when?/B]) and a Low-viz , if i´m lucky to find one. All the remaining (SDF/DYRL) valks don´t interestme at all.

Apart from that I hope they realise the potential profits of realeasing the 1/60 GBP separatelly for those people that bought the Super 1J some time ago , I mean , if they´re going through the trouble of making GBP molds why not milk them as much as they can ? I don´t think many 1J owners will invest in yet another one just for the sake of the GBP , and from the number of people that own a 1J and are eager to have a GBP I would imagine it´s a good investment

I´m not complaining at all , in fact I´m really happy that they´re finally giving us a GBP but they should really take those of us that have already paid for a 1J into account

[Pat Payne]

Looks like this has just been released in Japan & H.K.........

VF-1S Hikaru

.....since I don't have the VF-1A Hikaru, it's very hard to resist the temptation....

Just sent in my payment to Valk Exchange today. Can't wait the week or two before it lands on my doorstep

[ComicKaze]

This is great news for me...who all along loved the VF-1S but wanted a Hikaru version because arguably this was the version that was the "hero" in DYRL, that we get the awesome shots of flying through Boldolza's base and finally perforating his fish-bowl.

And this one will have all the features and upgrades that we've seen throughout the 1/48 line (such as the tabs inside the nosecone) as well so there's no worries about missing features.

I've always thought the 1S had a much meaner/darker streak in red too. Also, my old DYRL kits from the 80s were also of the red 1S.

So for those that have been holding out on the 1/48s, this is great news because this can be their first and formost version. For those that have all the other variations, of course you can pass on it as it's nothing but another clone.

[Gokurakumaru]

That's a rip if I ever seen one. You're telling me I have to spend $120 for a different head??? *Sigh*, when will the greed ever end?

I hear you. And I missed the Hikaru VF-1A 1/48 when it was first released so I don't even have the dilemma of double dipping.

I wonder how many people defending CEOs and the virtues of capitalism would be singing the same tune if they had to buy Super/Strike Valkyrie versions as an entirely new Valkyrie with the parts molded on. I doubt anyone was fired over the super parts being interchangable and available separately.

Berating someone for wanting a VF-1S head for a fighter they already have is stupid. He paid for the exact same fighter with the exact same paint job. Having to pay full price again for a head -- a part far less complicated than six pieces of detatchable armour which they saw fit to release -- is being hard done by.

[grassland]

Yamato release the last 1J with the fastpack and though that the GBP should come with another 1J so we could display them side by side. There is really no point getting another 1J with fastpack just to fit the GBP.

The other reason could be the mold of the new 1J is slightly different from the old 1J with fastpack. Maybe the new 1J need some modifcation in order for the GBP to fit in. Just a guess.