sucker4meltrans Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Here you go folks the all purpose Macross villian discussion thread. Quote
whispo Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 (edited) The biggest macross villain of all time is Shōji Kawamori , the guy has managed to addict thousands if not millions of people to an anime. He's worse then the guys who invented beer and drugs! Edited July 27, 2008 by whispo Quote
RedWolf Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Ohh villain thread! For those who have played VFX-2 what's the deal with the UN coup attempt guy. (Hijacking the Macross and Macross 13) Not to mention what's his name. Quote
Kronnang Dunn Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 For me, the coolest in-your-face psychopathic/sociopathic villain ever has been and always will be Quamzin Kravshera... Quote
dreamweaver13 Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 hmmmm... come to think of it... interesting that after all the macross series that have come and gone, i can't think of a real honest-to-goodness old school "evil"villain. yup, even gepelnitch had his/her redeeming moment at the end. just goes to show how well rounded macross characters are... even the "villains". in effect, it's actually hard to label anyone in the macross universe as an actual "villain", in the classic sense of the word. but in answer to the question, my favorite would still be Kamjin! the ultimate bad-as$. even in his short appearance in DYRL, he owned Focker. hehe. worst (read as: most annoying) would be those twin protodevlin near the end of Mac7. GAD, i hate hearing them laugh. arg. Quote
Sumdumgai Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) Temjin didn't have enough screen time, but I think he would have made a great villain had he not been (probably) killed for certain by the dimension eater, assuming he survived the being shot down and having the Q-rea stabbed in the crotch. Oh yeah, and I hated those damned twin protodevlin at the end of M7. Horrible laughs. Edited July 28, 2008 by Sumdumgai Quote
Mr March Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 I find most of the Macross villains entirely disposable and tragically ineffective. Not at all unexpected given that Macross is a children's show. For the most part, the villains only manage to inflict real damage during their final finish in which they themselves die. Kamjin, Bodolzaa, Sharon Apple, Gepernitch, Gigile, D.D. Ivanov/Nora Polyansky, et cetera. They were all tragically impotent and if they did cause any significant damage it was just before they got taken out like punks Generally speaking, the only effective forces in Macross are generally the mass of anonymous armies. The Zentradi as an Army were devastating; they beat the UN Spacy fleet early in the war and then obliterated Earth, nearly killing the entire human race. The Varauta destroyed the Megaroad-13 fleet, the Macross 5 fleet and gave the Macross 7 fleet hell. The Vajra also appear quite lethal, though they are more or less on equal terms so far with the NUNS/SMS. Hell, Roy got taken out by three nameless Queadluun-Raus, not any named villain Quote
Gubaba Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 worst (read as: most annoying) would be those twin protodevlin near the end of Mac7. GAD, i hate hearing them laugh. arg. "Anima..." "...Spiritia." "Hoh hoh hoh..." "...Ho Ho Ho!" Jeez, did they ever suck. Thank goodness they got eaten by Geperunichi-the-Spiritia-Black-Hole... Quote
dreamweaver13 Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 "Anima..." "...Spiritia." "Hoh hoh hoh..." "...Ho Ho Ho!" Jeez, did they ever suck. Thank goodness they got eaten by Geperunichi-the-Spiritia-Black-Hole... ach... the memory of their "twin-dialogue/laugh" gimmick is just plain painful. but i'll tell you the villain that has yet to be defeated... Basara's mountain. far as i know, he never did get to make that mountain move. toughest villain yet. Quote
taksraven Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 The X-9 ghost from Macross Plus. The baddest of the bad boys. A killer with no soul. Some would say that it was just a tool being used by Sharon Apple, but come on, we all really know that deep down this machine was EVIL. Besides, if it had been successful UN SPACEY would have gotten rid of all the Valks. AARGH!!!! Taksraven Quote
Morpheus Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 I find most of the Macross villains entirely disposable and tragically ineffective. Not at all unexpected given that Macross is a children's show. For the most part, the villains only manage to inflict real damage during their final finish in which they themselves die. Kamjin, Bodolzaa, Sharon Apple, Gepernitch, Gigile, D.D. Ivanov/Nora Polyansky, et cetera. They were all tragically impotent and if they did cause any significant damage it was just before they got taken out like punks Generally speaking, the only effective forces in Macross are generally the mass of anonymous armies. The Zentradi as an Army were devastating; they beat the UN Spacy fleet early in the war and then obliterated Earth, nearly killing the entire human race. The Varauta destroyed the Megaroad-13 fleet, the Macross 5 fleet and gave the Macross 7 fleet hell. The Vajra also appear quite lethal, though they are more or less on equal terms so far with the NUNS/SMS. Hell, Roy got taken out by three nameless Queadluun-Raus, not any named villain I don't think I can classify Sharon Apple as a villain, she's just an AI learning how to be a human in a wrong way . I'll tell you, Luca is the real villain from all Macross series Quote
dreamweaver13 Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 The X-9 ghost from Macross Plus. The baddest of the bad boys. A killer with no soul. Some would say that it was just a tool being used by Sharon Apple, but come on, we all really know that deep down this machine was EVIL. Besides, if it had been successful UN SPACEY would have gotten rid of all the Valks. AARGH!!!! Taksraven You're right. replace the valkyries?? DIE, GHOST, DIE!!!!!! Quote
Morpheus Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 You're right. replace the valkyries?? DIE, GHOST, DIE!!!!!! And now the next generation of Ghost are Luca's pet. Quote
miriya Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 The biggest macross villain of all time is Shōji Kawamori , the guy has managed to addict thousands if not millions of people to an anime. He's worse then the guys who invented beer and drugs! Villan or Hero? It is a fine line! Quote
dreamweaver13 Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 most hated bad guy in Macross oh yeah, forgot about him. yeah as far as "villains" go, i hate him the most. Quote
Mr March Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Leon's hairstylist. That's comedy gold right there. Quote
Final Vegeta Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 The Protoculture. Fact: they spawned most of Macross villains. And they did it for the lulz. FV Quote
dreamweaver13 Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 22 posts in, and no mention? fine, i'll say it: HG! Quote
sucker4meltrans Posted July 30, 2008 Author Posted July 30, 2008 Yes Harmony Gold is the ultimate villian of macross. Lets form a mob with torches and pitchforks and assualt their HQ. Quote
article 12 Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Yes Harmony Gold is the ultimate villian of macross. Lets form a mob with torches and pitchforks and assualt their HQ. nah, sic basara on them! with mega speaker pod and all! Quote
Gubaba Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Well...we know cream pies don't work against HG, so maybe banana peels should be next...let's save the dimension eater as a last resort...we don't want to take out a quarter of the planet just to get HG. Quote
grss1982 Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Well...we know cream pies don't work against HG, so maybe banana peels should be next...let's save the dimension eater as a last resort...we don't want to take out a quarter of the planet just to get HG. If your worried about collateral damage, how about sending the VF-25S with Full Armor towards their HQ? Without Nukes of course. Oh yeah......Ultimate Macross Villain: Quamzin Kravshera. HANDS DOWN!!!! Quote
taksraven Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Come to think about it, maybe WE are the biggest Macross villians, the hard to please fans. :rolleyes: Taksraven Quote
d3v Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 That's comedy gold right there. Sadly, it seems lost on this crew. Quote
Morpheus Posted August 1, 2008 Posted August 1, 2008 SK is the true super villain after what he did on epi.17 Quote
sucker4meltrans Posted August 2, 2008 Author Posted August 2, 2008 Naruto. Because that sup par series is hogging precious fansubbing resources. BELIEVE IT! (gomen ne, couldn't help my self) Quote
Protoculture Posted August 2, 2008 Posted August 2, 2008 You're right. replace the valkyries?? DIE, GHOST, DIE!!!!!! I thought the GHOST survived the headon collision with Guld, whose impact created a brief time-bending wormhole & sucked the GHOST into nearly 3 decades earlier & crashlanded on US soil. Hell, I even heard Pentagon covered up the whole shebang, & managed to dig up from GHOST's wreckage of a certain AI dron system that ultimately being redeveloped over as 'EDI - Extreme Deep Invader" UCAV drone & being tested aboard USS Abraham Lincoln. Some scuttle butt said the drone vaporised in North Korea back in 2005, but US Govt. never acknowledge the darn incident. Quote
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