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All the little details the writers stuck in the games are really starting to amaze me. They really create a sense of a living, breathing universe. I mean, when I was on the Citadel in Mass Effect 2, I hit that blue advertisement box. The ad I got was for an all-Elcor production of Hamlet. The ad was amusing, but when I finished ME2 I decided to go back and replay the first game to make a Paragon Shepard. As I'm running around completing Citadel quests, what should I hear on the news during an elevator ride but an announcement that one Kitt was going to put together an all-Elcor production of Hamlet.

Something else I didn't realize was that Nassana Dantius,

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, had a minor role in the first game as well. She's sitting in the bar by the Embassy, and IIRC she gives you a side quest at some point.

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  mikeszekely said:
All the little details the writers stuck in the games are really starting to amaze me. They really create a sense of a living, breathing universe. I mean, when I was on the Citadel in Mass Effect 2, I hit that blue advertisement box. The ad I got was for an all-Elcor production of Hamlet. The ad was amusing, but when I finished ME2 I decided to go back and replay the first game to make a Paragon Shepard. As I'm running around completing Citadel quests, what should I hear on the news during an elevator ride but an announcement that one Kitt was going to put together an all-Elcor production of Hamlet.

Something else I didn't realize was that Nassana Dantius, the Asari that Thane was hired to kill on Illium, had a minor role in the first game as well. She's sitting in the bar by the Embassy, and IIRC she gives you a side quest at some point.

yeah, ME2 is FILLED with stuff from the first game. The conversation between tali and garrus as you wander around the citadel is hilarious as well

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  Duke Togo said:
Found this tidbit, you can gain the three Dr Pepper DLC items for nothing:

Thanks, works fine.

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Mike---you're missing out on a lot of the references I'd say. There's zillions of references---darn near everything mentioned on ME 2's Citadel and Illium, is straight from ME 1's Citadel (mainly elevator radio ads). I *loved* that the Hamlet production had actually happened, as I'd heard it proposed a zillion times playing ME 1.

As for Nassana in ME 1---she'll give you the quest if you haven't already encountered it already by the half-way point. (most of the time she gave it to me, only once did I stumble upon the right planet). It's the biggest of the "minor" quests IMHO. Up there with Helena Blake's. Which actually seems to be an issue---a lot of people are saying that ME 2 is importing data wrong for some of the "large sidequests", and that the results of Helena Blake's quest and the whole asari consort section, are wrong. It seems to kind of ignore what you did. (that seems true at least for the consort---a message I heard on the Citadel seemed very out-of-character, but if it doesn't "count" what you did for her on ME 1, then it makes perfect sense). A lot of reports of Conrad Verner "mis-remembering" your first encounter, too. Which may actually screw up what happens with him in ME 2, as it may make a paragon solution impossible since the game seems to default that you were a renegade.

Anyways---I just heard that on the 2nd run of an ME 2 character (new game+) you don't get to pick a weapon specialization again? That'd suck, as I'd like to get the AR this time around.

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The Helena Blake thing was right for me. As for the consort thing, you just stopped the leak, you didn't stop people from talking about it.

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  kaiotheforsaken said:
Indeed, but I imagine if you go Paragon for both games
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If you chose the neutral option in ME1 (focus on Sovereign), the alien council is reformed, but with a human at the head of it. There are so many ways you can go. I fully expect ME3 to have 3 endings: Paragon win, Renegade win, and Reaper domination. After seeing what they did in ME2, I have to believe they'll have an ending with the Reapers winning.

I wonder if you make those choices to restore/rebuild/help those alien races, but also take those renegade chances to grab all the tech you can, what you end up with?

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  eugimon said:
The Helena Blake thing was right for me. As for the consort thing, you just stopped the leak, you didn't stop people from talking about it.

Yes, but for Helena Blake, a lot of people are reporting

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PS--it seems confirmed that you can't pick again (or pick a different weapon) in new game+. Which sucks, as I think the vast majority of people would like to at least have the OPTION to try something new. I really don't think a shotgun's going to be all that useful on insanity.

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  David Hingtgen said:
Mike---you're missing out on a lot of the references I'd say. There's zillions of references---darn near everything mentioned on ME 2's Citadel and Illium, is straight from ME 1's Citadel (mainly elevator radio ads). I *loved* that the Hamlet production had actually happened, as I'd heard it proposed a zillion times playing ME 1.

Probably. Even though I bought the PC version and sold my Xbox version, I never replayed the first ME until now. So, I haven't actually played Mass Effect since it first came out. I'm sure there's a ton of stuff I forgot, but since I played through ME2 as a renegade I figure I play through the first as a Paragon, then replay the second as a Paragon with the ME1 save some time before ME3.

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Ok, quarian discussion and likely effects of ME 2 on ME 3 in that regard:

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Personally David

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Regarding the experiments:

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PS---the DLC mentioned earlier? It's right. That pic is the character select pic, it's already in the PC version's data etc.

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Well, in regards to Quarians and Geth,

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I did the same, but I don't remember a "getting even" comment. Then again, I read that scene/outcome will often result in loss of loyalty for him, but it didn't for mine---maybe my Shep was influential enough to change it?

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  David Hingtgen said:
I did the same, but I don't remember a "getting even" comment. Then again, I read that scene/outcome will often result in loss of loyalty for him, but it didn't for mine---maybe my Shep was influential enough to change it?

I don't remember the exact phrasing, but it was definitely hostile. It resulted in a loss of loyalty for me, but

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From what I've read, it is possible to handle the situation in a way that neither will drop in loyalty.

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  eugimon said:
Did you take tali with you on Legion's loyalty mission?

I think so, but I don't remember for sure. Her and Legion have special abilities that work really well against Geth.

I know that for most of the game, I took Mordin with me. His tech powers were way better than any tech powers in the first game, and mostly better than the biotic powers in the game (throw was pretty useful, but I digress). The only times he really came up short were against shielded or armored enemies, like Geth.

My third man would vary. Sometimes Garrus, sometimes Miranda, sometimes Tali.

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I took Tali for Legion's loyalty mission--figured it'd be a learning experience for her. Nevermind the fact that she's the also best anti-geth character in all of ME. (AI hacking and shield drain, hello)

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Her dialog during the ethical choice portion of the mission is pretty interesting in light of the Quarian's relationship to the Geth. makes me wonder if

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is the "wrong" choice.

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  Duke Togo said:
I am the only one who took Legion on Tali's mission?

Maybe. I didn't have Legion before Tali's loyalty mission. I'm not sure if it's always the case, but it seems like you have to do one of the second set of recruiting missions before the Illusive Man

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. Tali was one of my favorites in the first game, so I went for that mission first. Then it seems like the second set will ask you to do their loyalty mission if you complete any single mission after recruiting them. One side-mission later, I was doing Tali's loyalty mission.

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Yup. I think a lot of people went after Tali first, as she was a "known" character and we'd been waiting to get her. I'll get Legion as early as possible next time.

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Static Dr. Pepper codes? lol figures I just finally found some of the right 20ozs today. Incidentally, I found them at Target but when you redeem the points on the Dr. Pepper site it claims to be a 7-11 exclusive.

I think David's right about the information being messed up on import sometimes. When I met Conrad Verner in ME2 he accused me of putting a gun in his face in ME1 something I don't remember ever doing.

about Tali&Legion

I never took them on my team at the same time because their skills overlap but at "one point" I got them to cooperate with no problems. They seemed pretty understanding of each other's situations. From his actions it seems Legion

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About the geth and Tali:

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EDIT: one more thing, people. There are no capitalized species names other than the Protheans! (and, retroactivally, the Reapers). It's "geth" and "asari" and "elcor"! [/soapbox]

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Took me a bit to find a screenshot but am I the only person that noticed this?

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or the Apocalypse Now reference? It's like always there but I don't think anyone has mentioned it. Has to be intentional given the actor.

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Cory---you'll note I never capitalize quarian etc. :) I was actually expecting someone to call me out on it, so it could be explained without preaching/getting on a soapbox. :D

But Prothean is capitalized? Doesn't that go against the rule?

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  mikeszekely said:
I don't remember the exact phrasing, but it was definitely hostile. It resulted in a loss of loyalty for me, but
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I think that happened to me, too. I just didn't recall that little follow-up moment (happens when you play multi-hour stretches vs small chunks), and must not have checked loyalty often enough to see it go down then up again.

Though for me, I justify it by saying (to myself) THAT too was a lie, as I'd never have Shep lie to Tali.

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  David Hingtgen said:
Cory---you'll note I never capitalize quarian etc. :) I was actually expecting someone to call me out on it, so it could be explained without preaching/getting on a soapbox. :D

But Prothean is capitalized? Doesn't that go against the rule?

Well, consider yourself called. Paged by Yeoman Kelly, even ;)

Actually, it's because of the Protheans that the rule is there. As far as galactic society is concerned, the Protheans are responsible for the mass relays, the Citadel, and therefore all the advanced technology that makes modern life possible. It's due to reverence and recognition of their enormous contributions that all other species' names are treated as regular nouns and not given a capitalized honourific.

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  CoryHolmes said:
What reference? I couldn't enjoy Apocalypse Now and turned it off.
Couldn't enjoy? Oh wow... maybe it's because I grew up watching war movies with my pops my opinion is a bit different.

Anyway, there's technically two I think but the Illusive man is one huge constant Apocalypse Now reference.

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  CoryHolmes said:
It's due to reverence and recognition of their enormous contributions that all other species' names are treated as regular nouns and not given a capitalized honourific.

Is that from Karpyshyn's blog or something? I don't recall seeing that in the books nor on the Bioware boards, though I haven't read Revelations in a while.

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  David Hingtgen said:
Is that from Karpyshyn's blog or something? I don't recall seeing that in the books nor on the Bioware boards, though I haven't read Revelations in a while.

Uh... it's from a... something-or-other. Not a blog, but I think it may have been in Revelations. I just checked the ME Wiki and there's no mention of it in there, but the spelling convention is there: Protheans are capitalized; humans, geth, hanar are not.

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Taking Legion to the Flotilla gets a rather large response. And not just a few lines, and not just some throw away dialog. Bioware did it right, and as you'd expect if you were to bring him there.

Fair warning, the more quests you do before going through the relay, the greater the chance you have at having

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I do not recommend doing this on your "main" save.

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