UN Spacy Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Another group is doing Frontier? Who's jumpcn? Quote
Darial Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 ok, who else feels sad for the vajra?? I DO!! Please, don't kill them. they stopped attacking, don't you see?? (and then followed with shots of 3 inactive vajra blown up ruthlessly. paradigm shift, anyone? Me too. I think they are definitely doing a paradigm shift. Vajra is becoming a false target. I think the 2nd half will be about who the true enemy really is.... (Corporate greed?) Quote
taksraven Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Nice to see the Yellow Vajra using their Waldo claws again...... Taksraven Quote
taksraven Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Is AiA still doing subbing or have they dropped the series?? Quote
Master Dex Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Is AiA still doing subbing or have they dropped the series?? I think they dropped it after ep.10. Quote
kalvasflam Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 (edited) Time up... well, for spoiler moratorium. I just got finish watching the RAW, interesting stuff. My initial opinion is that despite the build up from ep 13, this did not compare as well to episode 7. I actually liked episode 7 better even though this one was grander in scale. I thought the song that went along with the battle seem a bit forced and inappropriate. Obviously, given the Bandai involvement, I'm guessing this episode is designed to sell toys. Special packs for Alto, Alto VF-25 armored, VF-25 armored with reaction missiles, VF-17 with reaction missiles. I think that's about all of them. That said, this was still a good episode despite the reused animation, but it could've been so much better. Interesting points: - Did the bridge bunnies just tell Cathy that Bobby is interested in Ozma? If I heard that right, Cathy's reaction is well guarded. - As someone pointed out, Sheryl's poor piloting save her and Mikhail's lives. Neat, I'm more impressed with Sheryl every day, she gives me Misa vibes, and Ranka definitely has more Minmei vibes. - For such a broad fleet action, they actually had lots of useless character development, I'm sorry, I don't like Nanasei, or whatever the hell her name is, she's dead to me. Any time focused on her is wasted. My take is either they focus in on fleet action, and there could've been more done, even considering the small budget or do all these personal human interest stories, don't do both. - As for Luca, dude, you're frigging rich, just do her and get it over with, and move on to someone else, this childish "I'll return" crap is lame. We all know you're the evil genius behind Grace. Drop the innocent act. - Grace is alive... YES.... ok, I'm sorry if I seem a bit excited, but she's one cold hearted villain I can live with, it's the quiet ones that gets you. I'm sure Grace will have a story in mind for Sheryl or anyone else who asks. (Please don't disappoint me, Grace) - What the hell is this with Alto's armored VF-25? I swore he must have ejected three sets of parts, and was still loaded for bear when he blew up the Vajra queen. - Got great DYRL vibes when Alto blew up the Vajra queen, just like when Hikaru assassinated Boldolza. - The Vajra, did I miss something or did they turn stupid. When their ships came from behind, their battleships fired one shot each, and look like they didn't fire any more. Like they were waiting for Ranka to start singing. In the time it took for Alto to load up reaction missiles, they should have ripped Frontier to little pieces. They shot once and then stopped. - And what happened to the Vajra fleet that was in front? Were they wiped out already? - What's up with Leon? He was just smiling along the entire episode, like he was expecting the Vajra to be dumb and not blow up Frontier after the first shot. - As for Brera, ok, we still don't know anything about Galaxy, it could be destroyed, if it was, Brera can claim whatever he wants, how would anyone know the difference. Hi, I'm Brera, I'm from Megaroad, we've been out of touch for decades, but here I am in my brand new VF-27. - In my estimation, Brera was following Grace's orders exactly when he rescued Ranka. Like I said, Grace is one calculating bitch, what a babe... - I wonder what the funny crystals are about. It'll be interesting if they have a decent stories for it. I do hope they show more VF-17I and make them at least not so much of a grunt unit. If they keep doing that, I'll start thinking that I'm watching Gundam or something. I think overall, this episode raised up a few more questions. I'm definitely don't think it was better than ep 7 in spite of the build up. Hope they do another fleet action, and do it better next time. Edited July 11, 2008 by kalvasflam Quote
treatment Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 (edited) - For such a broad fleet action, they actually had lots of useless character development, I'm sorry, I don't like Nanasei, or whatever the hell her name is, she's dead to me. Any time focused on her is wasted. My take is either they focus in on fleet action, and there could've been more done, even considering the small budget or do all these personal human interest stories, don't do both. why you broke chip? btw, i forgot who asked about the VF-171 gunpod thingy in here, so here's the shot of the transformation: Edited July 11, 2008 by treatment Quote
Keith Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Before I read back through the topic, I just finnished watching it, and PIN POINT BARRIER PPPPUUUNNNCCHH!! Quote
Major Focker Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 after the initial rush, i can't help but feel a bit disappointed now at the wasted potential this juncture of the story had. it really could've used the 2 episode treatment similar to how they built up the tension from episode 6 to 7. the way it went, there were nearly equal parts character drama and mecha porn, but there wasn't really enough space to cram both together and do it justice. the first half pacing was fairly reasonable, but the latter half was just a mad dash to the finish. this episode could've ended with the MS appearing behind the Frontier just as they were starting to turn the tide. in between, they could've shown some pixie bonding at a bar, leon suppressing information about the sudden loss of communication from Galia4, bridge bunnies teasing cathy how ozma was in bed and badgering her why she hooked up with leon, diamond squad in the hangar with the flight leader egging the squad "gentlemen, we fight like we're not coming back" and then chiding the ground crew over private comms "you sure these rounds will penetrate their armor this time?", luca having an actual tussle with the vajra (flashbacks to nanase's doubts about his skill) before being cornered and alto shows up, pixies and canaria divert to provide covering fire for luca and alto, klan goes apeshit after learning michel was injured, some of the diamond force actually doing kamikaze, and just when the tide seems to be turning due to their valiance and sacrifice, the MS shows up... Quote
~Duo~Trenten Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 About one hour for Kei to be done downloading. Now i need something to do. Anyone else forsee Ranka doing a Minmei Attack in the near future. Sheryl also seems to be going the way of the Minmei...kicked to the curb. Quote
Valkyrie addict Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 hmmm...good episode, but I felt it was rushed and out of pace I felt I got Macross Zero'd, we get this big cliffhanger, Alto is getting suck by the D-pulse whatever... full afterburner, cut scene, his valk is now magicly floating with a half eaten galia 4... errr..... WTH?? we get a huge ass fleet attacking Frontier, all the forces engage, Sheryl tries to scape, Luca spots them, he goes alone and is ready to get own by 3 yellow vajra, THE WHOLE FLEET IS THERE, but Alto has to magicly arrived to save them, no back up... errrrr... WTH??? Where's Battle 25??, a whole Vajra fleet is attacking, but yet, no big boom booms.... Vajra defold behind Frontier, start shooting like crazy, breach Island 1 hull, then just stop...cut scene, presidente authorized reaction weapon, cut scene, Alto is rearmed, Sheryl is floating, cut scene, Alto is sent alone with Ozma against the Vaja mothership that is no longer shooting at Frontier, boom, the pixie girl is dead, cut scene, alto screaming, cut scene, Ranka on a LSD trip, cut scene, Brera comes out of NOWHERE, and saved Ranka, Alto shoots the queen to wonderland, big explosion pushes him outside and Brera out of NOWHERE is floating aside Alto and introduces himself, cut scene, the Quarter remembers it's in the fight, fire big ass repulsion whatever, Alto and Brera are besides the Mothership, doesn't matter, boom, mothership dead, cut scene, VF-171 blow up everything, Ranka cryes...episode over... WTH??? Oh yeah, Grace is rebuilt, where? Galaxy? Frontier? LAI? I DIDN'T GET IT....This should had been done in 2 episodes and from the preview, next episode looks like a filler episode... hmmm... sorry, neutral vote by me, only reason I'm not going negative is thanks to Diamond Squadron VF-171 Mecha Porn Quote
Gubaba Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 - For such a broad fleet action, they actually had lots of useless character development, I'm sorry, I don't like Nanasei, or whatever the hell her name is, she's dead to me. Any time focused on her is wasted. You have no taste or discrimination, good sir. Quote
Valkyrie addict Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 oh yeah, forgot, apparently, hitching in a fold ride gets you beat up and knocked unconscious and with serious internal bleeding, what the hell happened to Mikhael??? Quote
Xeros Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 (edited) well, with the speed subs things come clear Alto-hime thought sheryl and mikhail died in galia 4 Luca is in love of Nanase The battle was easy because the vajra indeed are brainless but the queen, when she was out all the NUNS have to do is blast them Ranka feels sad for the poor bugs I need confirmation for 2 things respect of the translation Aimo was a gift from the vajra???? Grace said Ranka is the Little queen???? Edited July 11, 2008 by Xeros Quote
dreamweaver13 Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 oh yeah, forgot, apparently, hitching in a fold ride gets you beat up and knocked unconscious and with serious internal bleeding, what the hell happened to Mikhael??? i had the feeling that it was because they hitched into an instant fold (through fold faults) which they shouldn't be capable of doing without any protection or appropriate technology. sheryl, on the other hand, still had one of her purple-crystal earrings with her, which might explain why she was relatively unharmed. just a theory, folks. in that sense... michael could be suffering from severe brain damage by now... back to the mind of an 11 year old... now in that state, who could we pair him up with, i wonder? hmmm... Quote
Kronnang Dunn Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 (edited) i had the feeling that it was because they hitched into an instant fold (through fold faults) which they shouldn't be capable of doing without any protection or appropriate technology. sheryl, on the other hand, still had one of her purple-crystal earrings with her, which might explain why she was relatively unharmed. just a theory, folks. in that sense... michael could be suffering from severe brain damage by now... back to the mind of an 11 year old... now in that state, who could we pair him up with, i wonder? hmmm... It seemed to me that Michael got banged up due to some turbulence during the fold... Edited July 11, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote
darkrealmbahamut Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 I think they dropped it after ep.10. What he said. It sucks because only AiA and Shinsen have been compatible with PS3. Quote
darkrealmbahamut Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 On another note though seems that Tamjin won't be making a comeback unless he crawled out of that water pretty ricky tick quick. Quote
taksraven Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Macross Frontier goes viral?? "I look so cool, I look so cool, every-body loves me, I look so cool!" Some Vajra try to indulge in their sport of missile catching. "WINGS IN SPAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCEEEEEEEE!!!!" ????????? "Get OUT of the WAY!!! SHE'S MY BIRD!!!" Mr Silly Straw Hat really bugs me and this is the SECOND time at least he has been in the show! "If I told you how big it was, Nanase, you would think I was talking in CENTIMETRES, NOT INCHES!!!" Taksraven Quote
darkrealmbahamut Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Grace said Ranka is the Little queen???? I think so might have something to do with the Vajra like cells that seemed to be glowing in Ranka while the Queen mimiced her mother. Quote
Kronnang Dunn Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 (edited) sheryl, on the other hand, still had one of her purple-crystal earrings with her, which might explain why she was relatively unharmed. Maybe Sheryl is a cyborg and she doesn't know it... Edited July 11, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote
LadyLuck® Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Nice to see the Yellow Vajra using their Waldo claws again...... Taksraven And.. they are equip with Revoltech joints Quote
mike_s_6 Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Maybe Sheryl is a cryborg and she doesn't know it... Look ma, no blood! Quote
LadyLuck® Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Maybe Sheryl is a cryborg and she doesn't know it... thats very interesting and I happen to watch the season ender of Transformers Animated she's like Sari Sundac Quote
Kronnang Dunn Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 (edited) According to Kei subs Grace's replacement says "Who would've guessed that girl is the Little Queen...". Was she talking about Ranka? Did she refer to her being Queen of the Vajra? Edited July 11, 2008 by Kronnang Dunn Quote
RolfPlus Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Goddamnit! (Goshdarnit? PG version?) This is the first time I've followed an episode as closely as this. Just take it in stride! The pace is quickening, we've lost a Pixie pilot, but it's nothing to flinch too far from... just feel the ebb and flow of a well structured anime. The plot thickens... considerably, if you speak Japanese, or have attached the subs the instant they came out (much thanks to Kei) BTW, this is my first post, after lurking for the better part of 3 years. Needless speculation is really fun, I'll admit listening to all of your theories is amusing... but it's just speculation. Just waiting to see what happens is the true element of active viewing. Quote
LadyLuck® Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 According to Kei subs Grace's replacement says "Who would've guessed that girl is the Little Queen...". Was she talking about Ranka? Did she refer to her being Queen of the Vajra? Zergs = Varja Sara Kerrigan = Ranka Lee (and way a lot more cuter) Quote
Sumdumgai Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 I forgot to mention that I felt relieved that they dropped the dome on the City Section before the SHTF. It sucked to be the poor people that got blown out of that gaping hull breach. Quote
Morpheus Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 (edited) I wish they release epi.14 in DVD/Blue ray in extended format, yes, thats 1 hour for epi.14 alone. So Brera is from Macross Galaxy Antares squadron....hmmm....VF-27 Antares, that's sounds pretty cool Another thing that bother me, in the flashback, Ranka was wearing her pilot suit, and on Galia 4 she's already wearing her peformance suit, does she change costume inside Michael VF-25?? :huh: Edited July 11, 2008 by Morpheus Quote
Keith Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 I actually agree, Sheryl does look a "lot" like Ranka's mother. At this point, I really wouldn't be surprised if she was a clone, one commissioned by Grace or Grace's party, to fill the role Ranka has taken. Regardless, she's still my pick for the winner in the triangle. Sure Ranka's pulled some major Alto points in the last couple episodes, but she hasn't touched Sheryl's "Misa-ness." Speakign of which, did anyone ever find that full Chunky Misa Doujin?.. Considering their ability to communicate with Ranka, and that much of their technology is PC based/incluenced, I really don't understand why the Vajra can't open up a comm channel to the Frontier fleet if they wantt to talk. We know Zentradi translator's exist, so it shouldn't be "too" difficult to exchange enough information for a translator between Vajra & human languages. But awesome explodyness all around this episode. it's going to be hard to top for the final episode big showdown. Quote
UN Spacy Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Is it too early to start thinking about a second season? Quote
aerocombatpilot Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Is it too early to start thinking about a second season? I sure hope not! Quote
Morpheus Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Well, I say the Vajra arc is over, now MF can continue to Galaxy civil war arc Quote
Sumdumgai Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Another thing that bother me, in the flashback, Ranka was wearing her pilot suit, and on Galia 4 she's already wearing her peformance suit, does she change costume inside Michael VF-25?? :huh: I noticed that too, and jokingly said that she just wore that for talking to Ozma and changed into her concert outfit before hopping in the VF-25 with Mihail. Quote
grss1982 Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Uhmmm.....Alto has FOUR nukes while Ozma has none? http://i38.tinypic.com/9jpwfq.jpg Quote
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