Shun Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) Well, there is clearly written "117" next to "04 Global". FV yes definitely. but if it is a disguise, the external lettering might be copied as well, but then it makes less sense to duplicate broken dolls and vehicles inside. Edited July 3, 2008 by Shun Quote
LadyLuck® Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Well, there is clearly written "117" next to "04 Global". FV Saw that too in the HD, now I'm really convince its a "SDF-1 Variant", a Macross classship maybe named after Global(on some other translations, Capt. Global is spelled as Capt. Gloval) Quote
Zinjo Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Saw that too in the HD, now I'm really convince its a "SDF-1 Variant", a Macross classship maybe named after Global(on some other translations, Capt. Global is spelled as Capt. Gloval) Dont' forget the spoiler rule is still in place... Quote
Duke Togo Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 (on some other translations, Capt. Global is spelled as Capt. Gloval) You mean Robotech? Its Global, with a "b". Bruno J Global, and he's Italian. Quote
SuperHobo Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 This is bull I can't download the HD raw. Why is "403 Forbidden" this nonsense! Gun please? Quote
Duke Togo Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 I have decided that between episode 12 and 13, Frontier has officially jumped the shark. Quote
Zinjo Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 I have decided that between episode 12 and 13, Frontier has officially jumped the shark. Dude, I thought that after episode 5 of Mac 7... Now we get Frontier and my faith is restored... Quote
MisaForever Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 I have decided that between episode 12 and 13, Frontier has officially jumped the shark. Again, you can't tell a series by it's halfway mark. The whole series needs to be seen before judgements can be made on it as a whole. Quote
Randalt Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Don't want to comment too much until I see a subbed version or a script, but I did notice one thing- Milia's name in the DYRL movie is "Milia 639" so, there may be a connection with the "639 Witch Craft" pill. It's more likely it's only a coincidence. I don't think the show's jumped the shark. If that were so, I would have zero interest in next week's episode. It ain't so! Quote
LadyLuck® Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Dont' forget the spoiler rule is still in place... woops sorry 'bout that I've just thought that I've click the "Spoiler insert"... My Bad Quote
DarkReaper Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Feels like they are advancing the storyline too fast. Quote
LadyLuck® Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Just a thought I think there will be some fill-in movies in between of some of the episode/s like M7... Well I guess we all can assume with that. Quote
Zinjo Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Feels like they are advancing the storyline too fast. Maybe, but if it's only 25/26 episodes, there are a lot of threads to clean up before the end as well as keep the audience's interest. Quote
Shun Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) Don't want to comment too much until I see a subbed version or a script, but I did notice one thing- Milia's name in the DYRL movie is "Milia 639" so, there may be a connection with the "639 Witch Craft" pill. It's more likely it's only a coincidence. I don't think the show's jumped the shark. If that were so, I would have zero interest in next week's episode. It ain't so! hahah good catch! some screen caps: VF-27 - check out that Galaxy insignia... http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5910/sn...04053955wm8.jpg Ranka's daddy? http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3434/sn...04053148hk0.jpg Ranka's mummy? http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5781/snap...04053230gn2.jpg Young Brera already playing with harmonica http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/4034/snap...04053200we8.jpg Ranka and family (daddy in his jacket looks like a grown up Full Metal Alchemist Edward? ) http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5668/sn...04053353xk1.jpg *Speculation* Queen Vajra Stages (seems Queen-types are not so rare?): I(a): with tiny limbs http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/1158/sn...04053450qe0.jpg II: "Big Zam" strong legs now http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/5594/sn...04053628on1.jpg III: getting huge (this one captured in research lab) http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1940/sn...04053333io7.jpg IV: Final stage http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5456/sn...04053831bj4.jpg Vajra mothership: http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/4184/sn...04052432sy6.jpg http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6576/sn...04052629gp8.jpg http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/2379/sn...04052651rm9.jpg VF-171: http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4687/sn...04053019bd0.jpg http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/4662/sn...04052910lr6.jpg notice the (underwing?) missiles http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1681/sn...04052858om6.jpg oh and i realized that the vajra mothership might not be "inside" the WTF-1 Global but rather under it... the "Global" broke up when it was pushed up by the vajra mothership, so we're still unable to determine the size of this thing. Edited July 3, 2008 by Shun Quote
Zinjo Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 oh and i realized that the vajra mothership might not be "inside" the WTF-1 Global but rather under it... the "Global" broke up when it was pushed up by the vajra mothership, so we're still unable to determine the size of this thing. Well it it's that big, then we may get some Macross 25 lovin' before the end of the series... Quote
MisaForever Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 LOL! on Big Zam Where did the name "Big Zam" come from anyways? Quote
Aegis Focker Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) Creo que dentro de poco tomara un poco de lineamiento al argumento de la serie, por que como dicen "se la llevo el tiburon" ya que no se le entiende nada.. Espero y Esperamos que pronto se recupere, pero a pesar de todo sigue siendo MACROSS y lo que mas me gusto fue el WTF-1. Cada vez se parece a ALIEN.. Yes Ranka Are Sigurney Weaver!! Where is the FlameTower!!!! Saludos.. Edited July 3, 2008 by Aegis Focker Quote
Shun Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) Well it it's that big, then we may get some Macross 25 lovin' before the end of the series... we know the size of the Macross Quarter compared with the Vajra Gunship from ep 7... when the Quarter Pounder was keeping the "mouth" of the vajra gunship open... and from these pics... seems like the mother ship is huge!! http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6576/sn...04052629gp8.jpg http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/2379/sn...04052651rm9.jpg yeah, maybe we will see Macross/Battle 25!!! I really hope so! Where did the name "Big Zam" come from anyways? its the name of a gigantic 2-legged Mobile Armor from Gundam 0079. google it to see pics. its the same color! Edited July 3, 2008 by Shun Quote
Chief Guld Goa Bowman Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 What episode was ranka's stomach glowing other than this one. Quote
taksraven Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 I just watched the first 90 seconds. Brilliant. On to the rest..... Taksraven Quote
Master Dex Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Ok... I downloaded it hour and a half ago.. I watched it... here are my thoughts during the climatic points of the episode: "WTF!!!!! HOLY SHI...!!! WHA!!!!" My head is racing trying to process all of this, I have read everything in this thread so far, so I'm not out of the loop, but I just can't speculate, there is way too much to guess. I'm waiting for subs, no guessing for me (at least no posting of guesses from me) until I see subs... Get here faster Subs!!! (jk, I am patient to let subbers do their jobs well, I am just wanting them lol). Quote
Strumvogel Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 What episode was ranka's stomach glowing other than this one. Ep 7. During the concert. Quote
darkrealmbahamut Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 The Vajra seem like they were found initally not so much created. I got a definate Aliens vibe which made me think that Ranka is part Vajra kinda like Ripley in the last Alien movie. If that is so then it is kinda like she is calling them home sorta. Other then that this was brillent and added some cool new twists to the Macross Universe. Quote
hoyingcc Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) i'm not sure about anyone else, but watching the Global get destroyed just about brought a tear to my eye... Edited July 3, 2008 by hoyingcc Quote
azrael Posted July 3, 2008 Author Posted July 3, 2008 i'm not sure about anyone else, but watching the Global get destroyed just about brought a tear to my eye... I really need drink after reading that... Quote
darkrealmbahamut Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 i'm not sure about anyone else, but watching the Global get destroyed just about brought a tear to my eye... But atleast it wasn't the Macross like some feared it would be. The Global actually looked in pretty good condition on the outside it was all the plants that grew that made it look worse. The inside on the other hand well definately a hive. Quote
taksraven Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Ok. Things I was right about with this episode. The SDF WAS a Vajra Hive. The thing we saw in the promo WAS a Vajra queen. Blatantly based on the queen from the aliens films but who cares. Things that I have been wrong about in the past. The voice in Brera's head WAS clearly Grace. That was NOT the original Macross. SDF-04???? Glad it wasn't the original, would have been too bad to see it trashed. Wow. What a dark and disturbing episode. The action was great. It was nice to get some Vajra action for once. It was nice to see the full Ex-gear armour again. (Haven't seen it used properly in this way since episode 1). I knew that Grace's holorock was some sort of bomb as soon as I saw it. Talk about violence. Poor Zentradi. What was the big deal with Grace's happy pills. Ranka's protusion has changed colour?? And FINALLY, to keep those complaining happy, did anybody see a certain Battroid appear in the next episode preview that people have been absolutely screaming out for. Next episode looks really cool too. I loved the way that this episode launched straight into the action, barely stopped, and then launched into another BIG cliffhanger at the end. More please. Taksraven Quote
darkrealmbahamut Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Graham will be happy next episide for sure. We may have to get him a bib. Quote
taksraven Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Watching the episode again, I am going with this ship being a Macross class vessel (perhaps Macross - 04) named "Global". No reason for the vessel to be in the mode it is in, either, other than a cheap plot device to have a cliffhanger for the end of episode 12. Retcon FTL. I think that the ship was in attack mode when captured by the Vajra during the attack on the 117th research fleet. They probably could'nt change it into ship mode (or didn't care) and used it as a hive. Ha. I knew the ship was going to be a hive. Taksraven. Quote
taksraven Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Oh yeah, about the Vajra, is it just me, or does this seem to be coming down to the Vajra being little harmless creatures than turn into these monstrous beasts when exposed to the energies of the purple crystals, which the humans are exploiting and perhaps even abusing. Quite possible. I think that the bug that scared the crap out of Alto and Ranka was a more mature version of her "pet". Also, did her pet seem to have tentacle arms that we hadn't seen before? Taksraven Quote
taksraven Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 So, now it must be pretty clear by now that Grace is the true bad guy of this show... She is one of them, but there are clearly more. Taksraven Quote
taksraven Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 someone suggest puppet bodies, which sounds very plausible to me. I'll go along with that. Sounds very GITS, but who cares. Man, the influences for this series are coming from all over the place. Taksraven Quote
Sumdumgai Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) Alto's VF-25 with Armored Packs next episode. VF-171 Battroid mode actually shooting at something and blowing it up! Zinjo and I were right about the possibility of Macross Class vessels existing! Grace has tentacles! OMGWTF DIMENSION EATER! Leon is a dick. I'm worried we might see some characters bite it next episode. Temjin might not be coming back after all... And the biggest mystery of all... Did Ranka get to go to the bathroom? I loved the eyecatch. Edited July 3, 2008 by Sumdumgai Quote
Mr March Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 Well, the Vajra sure came back into the story with a bang. I'm still not sure what the hell happened in this episode; all I know is it was pure anime ownage. Wow! Quote
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