Gubaba Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) Yeah. There's several newbie questions that have very complex and/or vague answers. "What happened to Hikaru, Misa, and Minmay" being perhaps the definitive example. That one's not complex or vague at all: "Black hole. Bye-bye." (And yes, I know that I'm perpetuating that bit of falsehood by repeating it, but I couldn't resist.) But someone should come up with a listed of the Frequently Asked Unanswerable Questions, like: * "What happened to Hikaru, Misa, and Minmay?" * "What happened to the Macross's Fold System?" * "What was really going on between Global and Misa?" * "Was Marj a clone of Max?" * "Aren't macronized Zentradi a waste of resources?" * "Which guy did Mylene choose?" * "Wouldn't being kissed by a Sharon Apple hologram be an incredibly unsatisfying experience?" * "Kaifun: A great douchebag, or THE GREATEST douchebag?" * "If Alto can't make up his mind, why doesn't he take each of the girls for a...um...'Test Drive'?" Edited January 20, 2009 by Gubaba
JB0 Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 That one's not complex or vague at all: "Black hole. Bye-bye." (And yes, I know that I'm perpetuating that bit of falsehood by repeating it, but I couldn't resist.) Either way, it kicks off a host of OTHER commonly-asked questions like "Kawamori needs to write more of them! WE WANT MORE!" Which isn't even a question. * "Wouldn't being kissed by a Sharon Apple hologram be an incredibly unsatisfying experience?" THAT is why she hypnotizes people. Let their imaginations make up for her physical shortcomings. * "Kaifun: A great douchebag, or THE GREATEST douchebag?" Someone start this as a thread!
dreamweaver13 Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 Someone start this as a thread! But gubaba's and VFTF1's feelings might get hurt when Basara starts getting mentioned...
JB0 Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 But gubaba's and VFTF1's feelings might get hurt when Basara starts getting mentioned... Mine too. There's no way that Basara can hold a candle to Kaifun.
Lacerta Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 On a different note completely.... I finished watching Macross Plus this weekend, and I have one question: Did Isamu get court-martialed for stealing the YF-19, and bringing it to Earth? Perhaps he received a reprieve, given that he stopped Sharon Apple from stealing the Macross...maybe a "Kirk brings the humpback whales and saves the Earth" sort of thing.
JB0 Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 On a different note completely.... I finished watching Macross Plus this weekend, and I have one question: Did Isamu get court-martialed for stealing the YF-19, and bringing it to Earth? Perhaps he received a reprieve, given that he stopped Sharon Apple from stealing the Macross...maybe a "Kirk brings the humpback whales and saves the Earth" sort of thing. That's what I expect happened. He's probably a hero of some sort now. Results matter, not motivation.
edwin3060 Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 That's what I expect happened. He's probably a hero of some sort now. Results matter, not motivation. On the other hand, he's not the type to gain rank in the military. I'd guess that he would continue in the test pilot role.
Bri Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 Isamu was suposed to face courtmartial procedures on Eden after what happended on Earth. However his ship got sucked into a passing Back Hole on the way there. Those things are a pain...
RedWolf Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 Well either those or the higher ups did try to promote him but he quit and somehow got recruited by a Zentradi gent that owns the fastest delivery service and sought after PMC in the galaxy. (LOL Fanfic)
dreamweaver13 Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 Isamu was suposed to face courtmartial procedures on Eden after what happended on Earth. However his ship got sucked into a passing Back Hole on the way there. Those things are a pain... ! why, WHY must those black holes always take my beloved characters away? WHY???
Gubaba Posted January 21, 2009 Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) ! why, WHY must those black holes always take my beloved characters away? WHY??? Three guesses as to what happened to the Vajra planet two minutes after the ending of Frontier... Edited January 21, 2009 by Gubaba
Killer Robot Posted January 21, 2009 Posted January 21, 2009 Three guesses as to what happened to the Vajra planet two minutes after the ending of Frontier... I vote
Gubaba Posted January 21, 2009 Posted January 21, 2009 I vote Wow...that's the cutest black hole I've ever seen! And its family plan is more affordable than you might think!
MilSpex Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Did the VE-1 ever make an appearance in SDF TV?
JB0 Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) I don't think so. That role was filled by the non-variable Cat's Eye recon plane. Best known for getting smacked with an asteroid and then captured while Misa was riding shotgun. But I'm not 100% sure. Edited January 24, 2009 by JB0
Morpheus Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Did the VE-1 ever make an appearance in SDF TV? Yup May the God Emperor forgive me for giving a ****tech link.
RedWolf Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Did the VE-1 ever make an appearance in SDF TV? No but the VEFR-1 did. Which had the same functions as the DYRL VE-1. Episode 27 the Bodolza attack episode. The VE-1 and the VF-1 Strike Fast Pack may be seen as non-canon but the VT-1 and the DYRL Macross ship are canon. VT-1 being civilian versions of the VF-1 and the Macross Refit and subsequent Macross Class are canon as per Macross Flashback, Macross Plus, Macross Dynamite 7 and Macross Frontier. Only the revamped VF-1X Plus Super Valkyries which is virtually identical to the VF-1 A and J Super Valkyries are seen in the canon games.
MilSpex Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 (edited) I don't think so. That role was filled by the non-variable Cat's Eye recon plane. Best known for getting smacked with an asteroid and then captured while Misa was riding shotgun. But I'm not 100% sure. Thankyou. I was thinking this was the case but also that it might have made an appearance in a wide shot in Love Drifts Away. edit: just saw Morpheus` and Red Wolf`s posts. Thanks very much! Edited January 24, 2009 by MilSpex
sketchley Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 The VE-1 and the VF-1 Strike Fast Pack may be seen as non-canon but the VT-1 and the DYRL Macross ship are canon. The way I have heard it phrased is "DYRL designs, SDFM story". Therefore, they're canon. They just *may* have shown up a bit later in the timeline than DYRL implies.
MilSpex Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 Thankyou. I was thinking this was the case but also that it might have made an appearance in a wide shot in Love Drifts Away. edit: just saw Morpheus` and Red Wolf`s posts. Thanks very much! So where exactly does the VE-1 appear in DYRL? I`m asking because I`m finally expanding my Yamato collection from my lone VE-1. I`m impressed with all the new TV schemes (Max especially) but want my new aircraft to fit in with the VE-1`s canon.
Gubaba Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 So where exactly does the VE-1 appear in DYRL? I`m asking because I`m finally expanding my Yamato collection from my lone VE-1. I`m impressed with all the new TV schemes (Max especially) but want my new aircraft to fit in with the VE-1`s canon. After they repel the first Zentradi attack (and Hikaru and Minmay get stuck in the engine block), right before they fire the main cannon, when you hear a voice saying in English, "Enemy ship is approaching course of 1-0-7," THAT'S the VE-1. It's in fighter mode, and you only see it from behind.
MilSpex Posted January 24, 2009 Posted January 24, 2009 After they repel the first Zentradi attack (and Hikaru and Minmay get stuck in the engine block), right before they fire the main cannon, when you hear a voice saying in English, "Enemy ship is approaching course of 1-0-7," THAT'S the VE-1. It's in fighter mode, and you only see it from behind. Ah its hazy but I think I remember! Thankyou! I`ll be going with the DYRL? canon to go with the VE-1 I think then.
RogueTrooper Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 Anyone know where there is a list of all the vehicles that appear in Macross Zero. Fro what i can rememebr there the F-14, Mig 29, M1 Abram, S-3 Viking, F-117 stealth fighter, not sure about the copters.
Mr March Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 ChrisG's MAHQ website has a good list of what appears in Macross Zero (helicopters included).
RogueTrooper Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 ChrisG's MAHQ website has a good list of what appears in Macross Zero (helicopters included). Cheers, Excellant list. Gonna have ago at making some of them in 1/144 with UN spacy decals. Viking will look cool with the red and white emblem i think.
anime52k8 Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 The way I have heard it phrased is "DYRL designs, SDFM story". Therefore, they're canon. They just *may* have shown up a bit later in the timeline than DYRL implies. the official line is that SDF:M is cannon, and DYRL a movie in universe as well as in the real world. the Designs from DYRL (all the VF's and the SDF-1) are all cannon, but are actually later updates (the VF's in DYRL are block 6's , the VF's in SDF:M are block 1's, and the SDF-1 was rebuilt after kamjin crashed into it hence the new color/details/ARMD arms) that were introduced after the 2012.
JB0 Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 the official line is that SDF:M is cannon, and DYRL a movie in universe as well as in the real world. the Designs from DYRL (all the VF's and the SDF-1) are all cannon, but are actually later updates (the VF's in DYRL are block 6's , the VF's in SDF:M are block 1's, and the SDF-1 was rebuilt after kamjin crashed into it hence the new color/details/ARMD arms) that were introduced after the 2012. Actually, if I recall, there's a few different blocks of Valkyrie in the original. It's the excuse for different cockpit designs in different episodes. They're just all pre-block 6.
wolfx Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 Is 7th of February the official launch date of the SDF-1 or 22nd? Am planning to do a little informal get-together for Malaysian fans.
sketchley Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 the official line is that SDF:M is cannon, and DYRL a movie in universe as well as in the real world. the Designs from DYRL (all the VF's and the SDF-1) are all cannon, but are actually later updates (the VF's in DYRL are block 6's , the VF's in SDF:M are block 1's, and the SDF-1 was rebuilt after kamjin crashed into it hence the new color/details/ARMD arms) that were introduced after the 2012. ... which is what I said, with different words...
Gubaba Posted February 3, 2009 Posted February 3, 2009 Is 7th of February the official launch date of the SDF-1 or 22nd? Am planning to do a little informal get-together for Malaysian fans. 7th in the show, 22nd in Akihabara. So the 7th is the "real" date.
SkullLeaderVF-X Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 (edited) Question. I know the new VF-171 is the new mass produced standard fighter replacing the old VF-11 Thunderbolt. But what about the VF-19 and 22? And now with the arrival of the 25 Messiah and VF-27 Lucifer (is that name right?), which Valkyrie is the top performer now? I know the 19 was too be the new mass produced fighter but was really advanced that only a handful of talented pilots could handle, and the VF-22 is for special ops now replacing the old VF-17 Nightmares. So where do they all stand in terms of being overall the more advanced/powerful/versatel valk? I know the answer would probably be based on opinion, but still, I would like to know which one would be the best/overall. Edited February 4, 2009 by SkullLeaderVF-X
Morpheus Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 Question. I know the new VF-171 is the new mass produced standard fighter replacing the old VF-11 Thunderbolt. But what about the VF-19 and 22? And now with the arrival of the 25 Messiah and VF-27 Lucifer (is that name right?), which Valkyrie is the top performer now? I know the 19 was too be the new mass produced fighter but was really advanced that only a handful of talented pilots could handle, and the VF-22 is for special ops now replacing the old VF-17 Nightmares. So where do they all stand in terms of being overall the more advanced/powerful/versatel valk? I know the answer would probably be based on opinion, but still, I would like to know which one would be the best/overall. Well, the compendium said that VF-171 is easy to use, maybe not as powerfull as the VF-19/22, but for a mass produced grunt valk, I prefer a valk that is easily replaced while pilot training is faster (no need for Basara or Isamu type to handle the valk). With the introduction of VF-25/27, I say the next generation valk is the VF-25 while VF-27 is reserved for assault valk. VF-25 have all the characteristic of main force valk (several variant like squad commander, etc, and also can be equipped with FAST pack and Armoured pack). Not to mention the introduction of EX-Gear system mean the pilot could be handle the high-G performance of the new valk relatively easier compare with other model. On side note, NUNS decide not to adopt VF-19 as main fighter after they found out that most VF-19 stationed on some planet are strangely painted in red and came equipped with speakers and later, stolen by Basara. J/K
SkullLeaderVF-X Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 Well, the compendium said that VF-171 is easy to use, maybe not as powerfull as the VF-19/22, but for a mass produced grunt valk, I prefer a valk that is easily replaced while pilot training is faster (no need for Basara or Isamu type to handle the valk). With the introduction of VF-25/27, I say the next generation valk is the VF-25 while VF-27 is reserved for assault valk. VF-25 have all the characteristic of main force valk (several variant like squad commander, etc, and also can be equipped with FAST pack and Armoured pack). Not to mention the introduction of EX-Gear system mean the pilot could be handle the high-G performance of the new valk relatively easier compare with other model. On side note, NUNS decide not to adopt VF-19 as main fighter after they found out that most VF-19 stationed on some planet are strangely painted in red and came equipped with speakers and later, stolen by Basara. J/K You know makes me think.....if the EX-Gear system was around during project super nova.....Guld may still have been with us....
anime52k8 Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 Question. I know the new VF-171 is the new mass produced standard fighter replacing the old VF-11 Thunderbolt. But what about the VF-19 and 22? And now with the arrival of the 25 Messiah and VF-27 Lucifer (is that name right?), which Valkyrie is the top performer now? I know the 19 was too be the new mass produced fighter but was really advanced that only a handful of talented pilots could handle, and the VF-22 is for special ops now replacing the old VF-17 Nightmares. So where do they all stand in terms of being overall the more advanced/powerful/versatel valk? I know the answer would probably be based on opinion, but still, I would like to know which one would be the best/overall. this is my impression of things based off everything we know so far: the after the end of project super nova, the VF-19 was accepted as the primary front line valk for spacy. and for the main spacy fleets (like the one in orbit around earth during mac+) the VF-19 is the primary valk that has replaced all VF-11's. the VF-22 is the new Special ops valk and has replaced the VF-17 in all the same fleets that the VF-19 replaced the VF-11. so what about the VF-171? well based on Frontier, we can surmise that Colony fleets (and possibly outlying colony worlds) operate with a fair amount of autonomy from NUN central command back on earth. as such, colonies choose which valks they want to use based on what there needs are. some fleets may have chosen to upgrade to the VF-19, others may still be soldiering on with the VF-11, and on Frontier uses the which is a VF-17 streamlined for mas production and general use. now the VF-25 and VF-27 both originate from the YF-24, the YF-24 is either an improvment over or a cheaper alternative to the VF-19. it hasn't been stated whether the YF-24 was adopted by the NUNS is it's main fighter, but the design was picked up by several colonies and improved upon. in the case of Frontier, they developed it into the VF-25 which they were going to use as a replacement to the VF-171 after SMS finished field testing it. and on galaxy they took the design and adapted it to there needs. so as to which is more advanced/powerful/versatile: in theory, the VF-25 is the best all around. it's performance is superior to the VF-19/-22, and because of multiple variants and the super/armor parts it's more versatile. as for most powerful/advanced valk, the VF-27 is top. the VF-27 can outperform even the super VF-25, it's got a miniature quantum beam gun, and it can interface with the pilots brain. the VF-27 is really only good as a heavy strike valk though, so it's not as versatile.
JB0 Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 The VF-19 may've wound up like the VF-4. Just too expensive for most of the colony fleets. And the VF-171 is the VF-5, 5000, 6, 7, and 9. It's the cheaper "good enough" plane(actually, the 9 is supposed to be better). http://macross.anime.net/wiki/Category:Variable_vehicles It's kinda funny how the 5, 6, and 7 are all basically the same thing from a text perspective. Clearly we need a story about a colony world flying VF-5 through 7s.
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