Pic comparision of new 1/60 VF-1 with 1/48 VF-1

[505thAirborne]

Maybe I missed it in another or part of this thread, But does this mean that the New 1/60 scale VF-1's will be the same size as the original Diecast version 1/60's from a few years ago?? Just that they will be as detailed (so they say) and transform much like the 1/48 series?

Maybe i am wrong, but it would have been cool just to make All the Valkyries from Macross Zero & Plus in 1/48. So what if they would have been big or huge... Would anyone really have complained, especially with the prices and issues. But thats just my opinion. Frankly a 1/48 scale VF-0A would have been awesome to match with my VF-1S & 1A!!

Lets just hope Yamato does a Low Vis. 1 and 2 seater models for the new 1/60's!!

[Wicked Ace]

Would anyone really have complained, especially with the prices and issues.

Nobody complains on this site.

[eugimon]

Nobody complains on this site.

I've never heard of this "complains" thing you speak of.

[Sumdumgai]

I was among the supporters of the idea of everything being in 1/48 scale, but lots of people pissed and moaned that the YF-19 and YF-21 would be too big. Since the VF-0, YF-19, SV-51, and YF-21 are being done in 1/60 scale, with the VF-1s being redone in 1/60, just stick with 1/60. Imagine doing the MKII Monster in 1/48 though! It would be awesome huge!

And, yes, 505thAirborne, the new 1/60 scale VF-1s will be close to the same size as the old 1/60 scale valkyries, because they are in the same scale and they're supposed to be the same valkyrie. So even though the 1/60 VF-1 will be smaller than the VF-0, SV-51, YF-19, and YF-21, those valks are all normally larger than the VF-1 anyway.

[505thAirborne]

I was among the supporters of the idea of everything being in 1/48 scale, but lots of people pissed and moaned that the YF-19 and YF-21 would be too big. Since the VF-0, YF-19, SV-51, and YF-21 are being done in 1/60 scale, with the VF-1s being redone in 1/60, just stick with 1/60. Imagine doing the MKII Monster in 1/48 though! It would be awesome huge!

And, yes, 505thAirborne, the new 1/60 scale VF-1s will be close to the same size as the old 1/60 scale valkyries, because they are in the same scale and they're supposed to be the same valkyrie. So even though the 1/60 VF-1 will be smaller than the VF-0, SV-51, YF-19, and YF-21, those valks are all normally larger than the VF-1 anyway.

Glad to know I am not alone on the 1/48 theory!! Well at least the new 1/60's should match up well with old ones!!

[Kyp Durron]

Glad to know I am not alone on the 1/48 theory!! Well at least the new 1/60's should match up well with old ones!!

I honestly don't see anything wrong with the new 1/60's fighter mode. Yeah, the nose looks a little bit (And I mean just a little) shorter than the 1/48, but I think it looks really good in all modes. And it damn sure looks much better than the old 1/60's by far, IMHO.

The only thing about these that I don't like is possibly having to pay more than $125 before shipping. VALKYRIE_EXCHANGE told me he is gonna be doing a group buy on these and to stay tuned. I'm sure I'll be quite happy with the price he quotes.

-Kyp

[qoo_ysl]

[Lord of Tetris]

Anyone want to translate for us? I can see that certain parts are highlighted and labeled, and I kinda want to know what it says...

[VFTF1]

Independent of what it says - a few noticable things in the blueprints:

1. The nose is clearly shorter on the 1/60. Look at the point where the nose terminates viz the knees on the 48 and compare it to the 60. Big difference - and the 60 looks better for it.

2. The chest on the 60 does not sag down to the point that the upper legs/vents find themselves under the sagging chest. Again - big plus for the 60.

Everything else looks roughly the same (save the obvious double-jointed shoulders).

The 60 is great - I'm looking forward to it - just kind of whining anyways

VFTF1

[Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0]

No huge chest or small arms, I like it!

[ruskiiVFaussie]

We got a 1A coming up next????? Max DYRL? 1A???

[ruskiiVFaussie]

I honestly don't see anything wrong with the new 1/60's fighter mode. Yeah, the nose looks a little bit (And I mean just a little) shorter than the 1/48, but I think it looks really good in all modes. And it damn sure looks much better than the old 1/60's by far, IMHO.

The only thing about these that I don't like is possibly having to pay more than $125 before shipping. VALKYRIE_EXCHANGE told me he is gonna be doing a group buy on these and to stay tuned. I'm sure I'll be quite happy with the price he quotes.

-Kyp

I'll be in that group buy.

[eugimon]

I'll be in that group buy.

yup, me too. VE is my first choice

[nightmareB4macross]

No huge chest or small arms, I like it!

I hope you're refering to the 1/60. That unless you're into the gals with a small chest and big arms.

[GGemini]

Wait...can someone please confirm to me what the YEN price is on these? 10,000 yen? or what?

And the fighter comes with SS parts yes?

VFTF1

13,440 円

according to Yamato's website...

[miriya]

Loving those Battroid proportions! I hope that the VF-1A is a CF scheme. I like those colors. At least I hope that one will be available in this line.

Edited April 20, 2008 by miriya

[Kyp Durron]

I'm pretty sure it's a given that whatever was produced during the first 1/60 line will be made this time around along with the addition of two seaters.

-Kyp

[miriya]

I'm pretty sure it's a given that whatever was produced during the first 1/60 line will be made this time around along with the addition of two seaters.

-Kyp

That would be sweet! Of course the original 1/60 line did have the VF-1D, VE-1 and VT-1 two seaters which are awesome (in fighter mode) now the V.2 versions will look great in battroid mode. I hope they also make both minmei guards too and a Virgin Road max.

[nightmareB4macross]

Independent of what it says - a few noticable things in the blueprints:

1. The nose is clearly shorter on the 1/60. Look at the point where the nose terminates viz the knees on the 48 and compare it to the 60. Big difference - and the 60 looks better for it.

2. The chest on the 60 does not sag down to the point that the upper legs/vents find themselves under the sagging chest. Again - big plus for the 60.

Everything else looks roughly the same (save the obvious double-jointed shoulders).

The 60 is great - I'm looking forward to it - just kind of whining anyways

VFTF1

I still can't get over the placement of the head. It sits a bit too tall and there is no way to correct it. I can see what Yamato was attemting by placing the head this way, but it seems as if they're working from a two-seater to a one-seater. The best way this could have been done is to stick with the one-seater platfom and shifting a few things around towards a two seater, but I guess it won't happen.

Oh well, I guess well have to wait for V.3 1/60 and let's all hope they get it right.

I'll get one 1/60 V.2, and that's all.

***The pic below is for Graham and Yamato.

Edited April 21, 2008 by nightmareB4macross

[ruskiiVFaussie]

lol, totally hope yamato produce these with your getting a nice paycheck.

[dafunguy]

What, no translation yet? Nobody knows Japanese anymore?

[areaseven]

What, no translation yet? Nobody knows Japanese anymore?

Probably not.

[genghis]

My Jap is very basic. Here's what I gather from what words I can understand from the pic:

1. Head looks balanced as it's now higher compared with 1/48.

2. Head no longer have centre seamline. It now goes from left to right (instead from front to back).

3. It comes with extra hands.

4. Chest area more proportionate compared with 1/48.

5. Trunk is now shorter, better proportion.

6. 19 points of articulation. Better articulation at wrist and ankle???

Sorry, but that's all I understand. Perhaps others can help?

[mojacko]

nice going genghis...thanks for the translation!

[Kyp Durron]

It's as everyone has already said, they decided to favor battroid mode in this version. But I still think that whatever compromises were made on fighter mode are minimal and that fighter mode still looks damn good.

-Kyp

[VF5SS]

The new 1/60 is far more accurate in all modes. No question about it. The 1/48 is a prettier fighter in a way, but it not any more accurate to what the machine looks like in the show most of the time.

[Mr March]

It's awesome. To me, the new 1/60 is an improvement in every way. Better size, better proportions, better articulation. I'm definitely picking up one of these.

[Necron_99]

Beautiful. I'm glad I only picked up a copule of 1/48's.

[rick dieck]

i dont know guys in fighter mode i dont think the 1:48 have any compettition even in batroid mode i prefer the 1:48...............you guys will understand when you have the new 1:60 in front of one of your great 1:48................................1:48 forevaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0]

i dont know guys in fighter mode i dont think the 1:48 have any compettition even in batroid mode i prefer the 1:48...............you guys will understand when you have the new 1:60 in front of one of your great 1:48................................1:48 forevaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, after looking at that comparison picture, the 1/48 is lacking, especially in battroid mode.

[Sam]

crap..

Im REALLY trying to not like these.

but all ur positive comments on it are making it *reallllly* hard !

*sigh*

=/

[dafunguy]

The 1/60 looks so small compared to the 1/48! It's going to look tiny in my display case (if I get one). Wish they made all the improvements, but in 1/48 scale. Once you go big ... it's hard to go back. (insert ... "that's what she said" jokes here ... haha.) It's sad seeing the 1/48 being phased out.

[danth]

I've always preferred a small scale, so 1/60 is better for me.

[UN Spacy]

I for one welcome our new 1/60 overlords.

[Skull 001]

The 60's look good and I will buy some. I with they woudl ahve made these improvements to the 48's instead. I prefer the size and I was working on articulated pilots for the 48's. Now I am hoping peopel will start dumping their 1/48 so I can stock up.

I for one welcome our new 1/60 overlords.