505thAirborne Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Maybe I missed it in another or part of this thread, But does this mean that the New 1/60 scale VF-1's will be the same size as the original Diecast version 1/60's from a few years ago?? Just that they will be as detailed (so they say) and transform much like the 1/48 series? Maybe i am wrong, but it would have been cool just to make All the Valkyries from Macross Zero & Plus in 1/48. So what if they would have been big or huge... Would anyone really have complained, especially with the prices and issues. But thats just my opinion. Frankly a 1/48 scale VF-0A would have been awesome to match with my VF-1S & 1A!! Lets just hope Yamato does a Low Vis. 1 and 2 seater models for the new 1/60's!! Quote
Wicked Ace Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Would anyone really have complained, especially with the prices and issues. Nobody complains on this site. Quote
eugimon Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Nobody complains on this site. I've never heard of this "complains" thing you speak of. Quote
Sumdumgai Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 I was among the supporters of the idea of everything being in 1/48 scale, but lots of people pissed and moaned that the YF-19 and YF-21 would be too big. Since the VF-0, YF-19, SV-51, and YF-21 are being done in 1/60 scale, with the VF-1s being redone in 1/60, just stick with 1/60. Imagine doing the MKII Monster in 1/48 though! It would be awesome huge! And, yes, 505thAirborne, the new 1/60 scale VF-1s will be close to the same size as the old 1/60 scale valkyries, because they are in the same scale and they're supposed to be the same valkyrie. So even though the 1/60 VF-1 will be smaller than the VF-0, SV-51, YF-19, and YF-21, those valks are all normally larger than the VF-1 anyway. Quote
505thAirborne Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 I was among the supporters of the idea of everything being in 1/48 scale, but lots of people pissed and moaned that the YF-19 and YF-21 would be too big. Since the VF-0, YF-19, SV-51, and YF-21 are being done in 1/60 scale, with the VF-1s being redone in 1/60, just stick with 1/60. Imagine doing the MKII Monster in 1/48 though! It would be awesome huge! And, yes, 505thAirborne, the new 1/60 scale VF-1s will be close to the same size as the old 1/60 scale valkyries, because they are in the same scale and they're supposed to be the same valkyrie. So even though the 1/60 VF-1 will be smaller than the VF-0, SV-51, YF-19, and YF-21, those valks are all normally larger than the VF-1 anyway. Glad to know I am not alone on the 1/48 theory!! Well at least the new 1/60's should match up well with old ones!! Quote
Kyp Durron Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Glad to know I am not alone on the 1/48 theory!! Well at least the new 1/60's should match up well with old ones!! I honestly don't see anything wrong with the new 1/60's fighter mode. Yeah, the nose looks a little bit (And I mean just a little) shorter than the 1/48, but I think it looks really good in all modes. And it damn sure looks much better than the old 1/60's by far, IMHO. The only thing about these that I don't like is possibly having to pay more than $125 before shipping. VALKYRIE_EXCHANGE told me he is gonna be doing a group buy on these and to stay tuned. I'm sure I'll be quite happy with the price he quotes. -Kyp Quote
Lord of Tetris Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Anyone want to translate for us? I can see that certain parts are highlighted and labeled, and I kinda want to know what it says... Quote
VFTF1 Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Independent of what it says - a few noticable things in the blueprints: 1. The nose is clearly shorter on the 1/60. Look at the point where the nose terminates viz the knees on the 48 and compare it to the 60. Big difference - and the 60 looks better for it. 2. The chest on the 60 does not sag down to the point that the upper legs/vents find themselves under the sagging chest. Again - big plus for the 60. Everything else looks roughly the same (save the obvious double-jointed shoulders). The 60 is great - I'm looking forward to it - just kind of whining anyways VFTF1 Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 No huge chest or small arms, I like it! Quote
ruskiiVFaussie Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 We got a 1A coming up next????? Max DYRL? 1A??? Quote
ruskiiVFaussie Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 I honestly don't see anything wrong with the new 1/60's fighter mode. Yeah, the nose looks a little bit (And I mean just a little) shorter than the 1/48, but I think it looks really good in all modes. And it damn sure looks much better than the old 1/60's by far, IMHO. The only thing about these that I don't like is possibly having to pay more than $125 before shipping. VALKYRIE_EXCHANGE told me he is gonna be doing a group buy on these and to stay tuned. I'm sure I'll be quite happy with the price he quotes. -Kyp I'll be in that group buy. Quote
eugimon Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 I'll be in that group buy. yup, me too. VE is my first choice Quote
nightmareB4macross Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 No huge chest or small arms, I like it! I hope you're refering to the 1/60. That unless you're into the gals with a small chest and big arms. Quote
GGemini Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 Wait...can someone please confirm to me what the YEN price is on these? 10,000 yen? or what? And the fighter comes with SS parts yes? VFTF1 13,440 円 according to Yamato's website... Quote
miriya Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) Loving those Battroid proportions! I hope that the VF-1A is a CF scheme. I like those colors. At least I hope that one will be available in this line. Edited April 20, 2008 by miriya Quote
Kyp Durron Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 I'm pretty sure it's a given that whatever was produced during the first 1/60 line will be made this time around along with the addition of two seaters. -Kyp Quote
miriya Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 I'm pretty sure it's a given that whatever was produced during the first 1/60 line will be made this time around along with the addition of two seaters. -Kyp That would be sweet! Of course the original 1/60 line did have the VF-1D, VE-1 and VT-1 two seaters which are awesome (in fighter mode) now the V.2 versions will look great in battroid mode. I hope they also make both minmei guards too and a Virgin Road max. Quote
nightmareB4macross Posted April 20, 2008 Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) Independent of what it says - a few noticable things in the blueprints: 1. The nose is clearly shorter on the 1/60. Look at the point where the nose terminates viz the knees on the 48 and compare it to the 60. Big difference - and the 60 looks better for it. 2. The chest on the 60 does not sag down to the point that the upper legs/vents find themselves under the sagging chest. Again - big plus for the 60. Everything else looks roughly the same (save the obvious double-jointed shoulders). The 60 is great - I'm looking forward to it - just kind of whining anyways VFTF1 I still can't get over the placement of the head. It sits a bit too tall and there is no way to correct it. I can see what Yamato was attemting by placing the head this way, but it seems as if they're working from a two-seater to a one-seater. The best way this could have been done is to stick with the one-seater platfom and shifting a few things around towards a two seater, but I guess it won't happen. Oh well, I guess well have to wait for V.3 1/60 and let's all hope they get it right. I'll get one 1/60 V.2, and that's all. ***The pic below is for Graham and Yamato. Edited April 21, 2008 by nightmareB4macross Quote
ruskiiVFaussie Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 lol, totally hope yamato produce these with your getting a nice paycheck. Quote
dafunguy Posted April 28, 2008 Author Posted April 28, 2008 What, no translation yet? Nobody knows Japanese anymore? Quote
areaseven Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 What, no translation yet? Nobody knows Japanese anymore? Probably not. Quote
genghis Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 My Jap is very basic. Here's what I gather from what words I can understand from the pic: 1. Head looks balanced as it's now higher compared with 1/48. 2. Head no longer have centre seamline. It now goes from left to right (instead from front to back). 3. It comes with extra hands. 4. Chest area more proportionate compared with 1/48. 5. Trunk is now shorter, better proportion. 6. 19 points of articulation. Better articulation at wrist and ankle??? Sorry, but that's all I understand. Perhaps others can help? Quote
mojacko Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 nice going genghis...thanks for the translation! Quote
Kyp Durron Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 It's as everyone has already said, they decided to favor battroid mode in this version. But I still think that whatever compromises were made on fighter mode are minimal and that fighter mode still looks damn good. -Kyp Quote
VF5SS Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 The new 1/60 is far more accurate in all modes. No question about it. The 1/48 is a prettier fighter in a way, but it not any more accurate to what the machine looks like in the show most of the time. Quote
Mr March Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 It's awesome. To me, the new 1/60 is an improvement in every way. Better size, better proportions, better articulation. I'm definitely picking up one of these. Quote
Necron_99 Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 Beautiful. I'm glad I only picked up a copule of 1/48's. Quote
rick dieck Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 i dont know guys in fighter mode i dont think the 1:48 have any compettition even in batroid mode i prefer the 1:48...............you guys will understand when you have the new 1:60 in front of one of your great 1:48................................1:48 forevaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 i dont know guys in fighter mode i dont think the 1:48 have any compettition even in batroid mode i prefer the 1:48...............you guys will understand when you have the new 1:60 in front of one of your great 1:48................................1:48 forevaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, after looking at that comparison picture, the 1/48 is lacking, especially in battroid mode. Quote
Sam Posted April 28, 2008 Posted April 28, 2008 crap.. Im REALLY trying to not like these. but all ur positive comments on it are making it *reallllly* hard ! *sigh* =/ Quote
dafunguy Posted June 13, 2008 Author Posted June 13, 2008 The 1/60 looks so small compared to the 1/48! It's going to look tiny in my display case (if I get one). Wish they made all the improvements, but in 1/48 scale. Once you go big ... it's hard to go back. (insert ... "that's what she said" jokes here ... haha.) It's sad seeing the 1/48 being phased out. Quote
danth Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I've always preferred a small scale, so 1/60 is better for me. Quote
Skull 001 Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 The 60's look good and I will buy some. I with they woudl ahve made these improvements to the 48's instead. I prefer the size and I was working on articulated pilots for the 48's. Now I am hoping peopel will start dumping their 1/48 so I can stock up. I for one welcome our new 1/60 overlords. Quote
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