emajnthis Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 I saw the new Millenium Falcon at Wal-Mart the other day, that thing is HUGE, but it still looks ill proportioned to me, plus i have nowhere to put it.
Scream Man Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 Im still deciding if Ill get it. If I do, Ill have to store i, I have no-where to put it.
Scream Man Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 im caving tonight., Ill be getting it. Also, its made me look around at some of the other figures; they seem to have improved form the ones i remember getting years ago. Do i see articulation in those joints? Awesome! Are there decent versions of all the leads around now?
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted August 19, 2008 Author Posted August 19, 2008 I'd like to hear a definitive answer from the Hasbro designers, but the fighter that the new Falcon comes with reminds me just a tiny bit of the aborted clip-on mini-rig that Kenner planned back in the 80s: http://theswca.com/index.php?action=disp_i...p;item_id=50980 That site is F^Y&U*I(ing awesome. Thanks for the link. im caving tonight., Ill be getting it. Also, its made me look around at some of the other figures; they seem to have improved form the ones i remember getting years ago. Do i see articulation in those joints? Awesome! Are there decent versions of all the leads around now? Wow, we can relate man! I regretted passing on Star wars figures during the late 90's/early 2000's, which is weird because during my childhood, I kept wishing for Star Wars toys to come back out, and after buying just a few in 97, didn't buy some for years. Now is a GREAT time for you to get back into it, as I did actively last year and while casual, enjoy it. I no longer regret passing on most of the figures from back then as they are barely articulated. The only things I regret passing on are the vehicles, like that one time Toyworks had AT ATs for $15. Articulation has increased exponentially. Some figures even have ball jointed legs, though this isn't much of an improvement in execution(and I did look forward to these figures with a passion). Most figures now include: -ball jointed heads -ball jointed elbows -ball jointed shoulders -ball jointed knees -ball joint/swivel abdominal or waist joint -ball jointed ankles -swivel wrists -hinged hips These are referred to as being super articulated, now there are a few that are slightly more poseable. These figures include wave 1 08 Anakin, Obi wan, Commander Gree, and Legacy Collection wave 2 Armored Obi-Wan Kenobi. Gree even has ball jointed wrists. Most figures of popular characters, and nearly all current clone/storm troopers are super articulated. If not all joints listed above are present, most of them are. Most of the leads do have super articulated figures out. The VOTC versions of Han, Luke, Vader, Boba Fett, and Chewbacca are super articulated. However VOTC Tatooine Luke is disliked by many due to having a cloth tunic. I am an articulation junky so chances are I probably wouldn't give a shi*. It used to be a rare occurrence to see a super articulated figure in the line, but now most figures in each wave are. For example, legacy collection wave 2 has all super articulated figures. The following are the best versions of the leads to me: -VOTC Luke(ESB version) -Legacy collection wave 1 Darth Vader(due to removable 2 piece helmet, though you may like TAC Wave 3 Vader better, but the helmet on that is 1 piece, and has Hayden Christiansen's head as opposed to David Prowse's). -Legacy Collection wave 1 Chewbacca(looks beat up, but I like the differences). -TAC wave 3 Storm Trooper -VOTC Leia -Evolutions Boba Fett A super articulated(hopefully) Obi Wan is coming in early 09. Now the thing about the big ass millenium falcon, is that it already includes super articulated versions of Chewbacca and Han. Han has swivel angled elbows instead of ball jointed ones though. The Falcon is actually bigger completed than in the box, and the box is freaking huge to begin with. Overall the figures of today are far better than the ones from 97, and even better than the ones from 2005, where super articulation was trickled into the ROTS line. I just got Anakin's modified starfighter from Clone Wars, a repackaged version of his same ride from the previous Clone Wars cartoon. This thing is awesome, uses the episode II starfighter as a base, but has a bunch of unique parts that definitely have an Anakin influence. Arguably the best starfighter he has, and definitely the most unique. One hell of an extensive retool. Worst part, is that the figures can barely see from the cockpit, they sit too low. Best part, is that most Anakin figures can fit in easily.
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 I'm with Scream Man. This new Millenium Falcon is reviving my old itch for SW toys. I might still not get the über expensive, never seen on screen, mold destroyed, only 10 produced, mail away exclusive, pink dotted Clone Specialist, but I'm so getting the whole ANH Millenium Falcon crew now. Maybe even some extra Storm Troopers to add drama Last year I had a talk with a friend of mine about how the MF got so behind on the current collector's tastes, and that Hasbro should do a new one from scratch, much bigger and detailed. We were daydreaming about a four piece Millenium Falcon playset, sold separately one piece at a time, each one featuring a key scenario of the movies: medical bay, cockpit, crew quarters, boarding ramp, gunner stations, etc. Once you have the four pieces, you put them all together to form a big a$$ MF (Millenium Falcon). but this one will do for now
Sam Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 The BMF is now my coffee table.. well, nto really, but it *could* be hehe. a new tradition is to push the sound effects buttons at least 15 times a day, to make sure I get my moneys worth LOL. A lot of phone calls are initiated with the phrase' its not wise to upset a wookie' and finishing with laser fire effects =-) Its great though, tempted to airbrush more weathering to become more model like look, but considering the size of the job, im gonna work up to it. Want to do it the way i did my at at and at st. Go get it scream man, but you wont be able to hide it from the missus!
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 The following are the best versions of the leads to me: -VOTC Luke(ESB version) -Legacy collection wave 1 Darth Vader(due to removable 2 piece helmet, though you may like TAC Wave 3 Vader better, but the helmet on that is 1 piece, and has Hayden Christiansen's head as opposed to David Prowse's). -Legacy Collection wave 1 Chewbacca(looks beat up, but I like the differences). -TAC wave 3 Storm Trooper -VOTC Leia -Evolutions Boba Fett A super articulated(hopefully) Obi Wan is coming in early 09. Thanks for the hads up, Shin! I have to buy those again to go with my MF (Millenium Falcon).
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted August 19, 2008 Author Posted August 19, 2008 but I'm so getting the whole ANH Millenium Falcon crew now. A battle pack(should be $19.99 msrp), with the other ANH crew aside Han and Chewie will be coming out soon with gear such as the oxygen masks they used in ESB. Thanks for the hads up, Shin! I have to buy those again to go with my MF (Millenium Falcon). No prob man, glad I could help! Seriously this year is a great year to get back into the fold, I tried getting back into the line starting in 04, I got into it more last year, and towards the end a lot of the figures were awesome, but this year a lot of stuff is even better. Last year I had a talk with a friend of mine about how the MF got so behind on the current collector's tastes, and that Hasbro should do a new one from scratch, much bigger and detailed. We were daydreaming about a four piece Millenium Falcon playset, sold separately one piece at a time, each one featuring a key scenario of the movies: medical bay, cockpit, crew quarters, boarding ramp, gunner stations, etc. Once you have the four pieces, you put them all together to form a big a$$ MF (Millenium Falcon). but this one will do for now An interesting fact, is that the Millenium Falcon toy was actually supposed to be bigger....but they had to take costs into account. Modular playsets are the way of the future, in my opinion, its the only way retailers will even budge. Crap, you know, speaking of which, I should have listed which vehicles are the best to get for those of you getting back into Star Wars toy collecting! -Darth Vaders Advanced TIE(will be rereleased very soon for $19.99) -Dagobah X-wing(TRU exclusive from 2006-07, might still be available from your local TRU -Dagger Squadron B-Wing(TRU exclusive, just released) -A-Wing(walmart exclusive, coming in November) -TIE Bomber(Target exclusive from last winter) -Y-Wing(TRU exclusive from last winter) -TIE Interceptor(TRU exclusive from last summer) The Y-wing might be retooled from Clone Wars, its rumored to be, but who knows, maybe it will be all new?
Scream Man Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 theres y wings still in stores round here, so thats no problem. A Wing is out soon i think. B wing Ive sene ins tores too. i have the Luke Xwing that the Dagobah version is based on. Ill have to hunt for TIE stuff when i get the chance. i have the Falcon behindme! Not opened or anything yet, but woo!
Black Valkyrie Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 I did not buy any SW vehicles in years or a decade but I was tempted to buy BMF but no space. May be only vehicle I`m planning to buy is the Land Speeder or a Tie Fighter. Guys if got the BMF pics please.
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) Yeah, I wan't to see pics of the scape pod/mini fighter, or whatever it is. -Darth Vaders Advanced TIE(will be rereleased very soon for $19.99) -Dagobah X-wing(TRU exclusive from 2006-07, might still be available from your local TRU -Dagger Squadron B-Wing(TRU exclusive, just released) -A-Wing(walmart exclusive, coming in November) -TIE Bomber(Target exclusive from last winter) -Y-Wing(TRU exclusive from last winter) -TIE Interceptor(TRU exclusive from last summer) So every fighter is someone's exclusive now? That sucks for me. Since most of those stores don't exist here in Mexico (except for Walmart, of course), toy dealers this side of the Rio Grande charge and arm and a leg for them arguing that they're "exclusives". Edit: Found a nice gallery here. Edited August 19, 2008 by Lonely Soldier Boy
Scream Man Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 opened her last night; helluiva toy. I gotta get some batteries... havent played with it much yet, but she sure is big! And, because Im a sucker, Ive started panel lining her. Ooo boy.... Im gonna look round at figures online today, so ill check for those ones u mentioned Shin.
Scream Man Posted August 19, 2008 Posted August 19, 2008 -VOTC Luke(ESB version) -Legacy collection wave 1 Darth Vader(due to removable 2 piece helmet, though you may like TAC Wave 3 Vader better, but the helmet on that is 1 piece, and has Hayden Christiansen's head as opposed to David Prowse's). -Legacy Collection wave 1 Chewbacca(looks beat up, but I like the differences). -TAC wave 3 Storm Trooper -VOTC Leia -Evolutions Boba Fett What does VOTC mean?
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted August 19, 2008 Author Posted August 19, 2008 What does VOTC mean? Vintage Original Trilogy Collection. These figures were packed in supposedly resealable plastic cases, and vintage cardbacks. Luckily most VOTC figures are repacked into the regular mainline, or will be in next year's line, its inevitable, as previous VOTC figures have ended up in either the mainline or part of multipacks. For example, ESB Luke is an important character, so I have no doubt that eventually we will see it again. Too bad he looked sleepy on the head sculpt. Legacy wave 1 Darth Vader has a 2 piece helmet, revealed in ROTJ, but the helmet is not very secure. What I do, is put the top part on the face part of the helmet first, and then place the helmet on Vader's head. Not sure if any of you are big on Vader being right handed, but his right hand is an open sculpt, so he won't be holding a saber with that hand. Battle Damaged Vader from the Force Unleashed game manages to be hard to find, but one of my favorites. The worst thing about it(aside from weird proportions for his exposed battle damaged parts), is that is helmet does not fit on right, its skewed to the side. Other than that, its a great rendition of Vader, but marred. So every fighter is someone's exclusive now? Most of the original trilogy ones are. The current X-wing is actually a retooled Power FX X-wing. The original Power FX X-wing was hyped up in 97, as being an up to date, completely redesigned X-wing that was much more accurate and better proportioned than the vintage one. The bad thing, was that a unremovable Luke figure was shoved in place for FX noises and a gimmick. In 2002, this mold was retooled, the figure and FX gimmicks were completely removed, enabling figures to be placed into the cockpit(1st Dagobah Luke version, with black engine intakes and excessive battle damage paint). During 2004, the Red Leader version was sold at TRU. In 2006, another Dagobah X-wing was sold, this time with Dagobah training Luke, a much better looking paint job, a Dagobah swamp monster, and PVC swamp vines to place over the X-wing. The retooled X-wing is definitive, light years ahead of the vintage one, and has never been sold in mass market, its always been a TRU exclusive. There is a battle pack coming out that will have rebel ground crew...and I look forward to this so I can display it near my X-wing and have the ground crew look like they are repairing it. The only original trilogy vehicles that have been sold in mass market these past few years have been the original TIE with small wings, and Vader's Advanced TIE, which they were somehow able to shove into a box...that thing is huge for the box. As far as the Y-wing, there is a new one in Clone Wars that does look better to me, its got a more cleaner, less exposed appearance. I hope a toy of that comes out. Despite how dissapointing some of the prequels were, the vehicles are some of the best. The ARC-170 is excellent, that is coming back out as an exclusive with a Wampa painted on the side. The Republic Gunship will come out during the holidays too, each retailer getting a different paint job, Walmart's will have a twilek painted on the side. The episode 3 starfighter is decent, I got a Darth Vader one that looks awesome. The epII starfighter will be getting a new mold later this year, as the delta 2 variant, and apparently when the nose is pulled, the back wings flip up. I haven't seen this in action but am excited for it.
Scream Man Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 ooo, id geta new gunship. I never should have sold my old one. i DID get an Arc fighter, and its awesome. i have the blackened engines Xwing, but maybe Ill grab the red leader one if i can find it...
Black Valkyrie Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Edit: Found a nice gallery here. Thanks, this might be TOTY for me.
lord_breetai Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 As far as the Y-wing, there is a new one in Clone Wars that does look better to me, its got a more cleaner, less exposed appearance. I hope a toy of that comes out. But Rebel vehicles are supposed to be un-clean and exposed... that's the whole point.
David Hingtgen Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Gah, I just looked up the "new" Y-wing. It's hideous. They totally ruined one of the neatest ships in the saga. http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news/...080403_2_bg.jpg The "conjectural" fully-armored Y-wing looked so much better: http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/c/...inal_Y-wing.jpg It made a lot more sense, too. I don't know of any car/ship/plane that has a structural frame totally unrelated to its exterior--but the Clone Wars Y-wing does.
eugimon Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 I agree with David, that new y-wing (old?) is just wrong. so what is all that extra stuff supposed to be, just panelling the old designers tacked on for the hell of it?
emajnthis Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) I agree with David, that new y-wing (old?) is just wrong. so what is all that extra stuff supposed to be, just panelling the old designers tacked on for the hell of it? No way man, they totally did that so it would be aerodynamic... in space. Edited August 20, 2008 by emajnthis
eugimon Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 No way man, they totally did that so it would be aerodynamic... in space. Well, since in SW there's sound in space... maybe you have a point there!
ruskiiVFaussie Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) hahah, i laid first eyes on the big ass falcon box yesterday in my local Big W... MASSIVE! Didn't see the price, wife was with me, don't want to even give her the thought of i was checking it out. Way too big for someone married.. But perfect size with poseable figs.. Edited August 20, 2008 by ruskiiVFaussie
lord_breetai Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Well it could be... remember Lucas was a huge fan of old pulp novels and serials... a lot of which (say Lensman) for example where written during the period when the Aether Field theory still existed. I remember in Lensman EE Doc Smith talked at some length about what was the best shape for a ship to navigate the Aether, so... maybe it pays homage to things like that. but... probably not.
Scream Man Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 hahah, i laid first eyes on the big ass falcon box yesterday in my local Big W... MASSIVE! Didn't see the price, wife was with me, don't want to even give her the thought of i was checking it out. Way too big for someone married.. But perfect size with poseable figs.. Im married, and i got one my trick is to see what else i can get away with getting.
type j9 Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 hi, guys I don't know if you inclued the lego stars war in this topic, anyway it's a toy and it's stars war, so have a look for this, it's not in sale i like the brik
David Hingtgen Posted August 20, 2008 Posted August 20, 2008 Really old news, but still cool. SW has always had the coolest capital ships in all of sci-fi IMHO.
Uxi Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 Wow, that Lego thing is huuuuuge. My cousin bought the big $300 ISD kit and I thought that was big...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Posted August 21, 2008 That is an awesome lego creation. News for SW Transformers fans, the pilots will no longer be included with the toys. This apparently cut costs for Hasbro. To me the pilots were one of the redeeming factors of the toys. Alas, I bought a few months back, to get my Transformers fix, but they don't feel like must-have toys(except Death Star Darth Vader), they are okay, at best, decent. There are so many things that stop them from being great toys. With that said, the Marvel crossovers versions seem to be designed much better. Has anyone picked up the new V-19 Torrent Starfighter?
lord_breetai Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 That is an awesome lego creation. News for SW Transformers fans, the pilots will no longer be included with the toys. This apparently cut costs for Hasbro. To me the pilots were one of the redeeming factors of the toys. Alas, I bought a few months back, to get my Transformers fix, but they don't feel like must-have toys(except Death Star Darth Vader), they are okay, at best, decent. There are so many things that stop them from being great toys. With that said, the Marvel crossovers versions seem to be designed much better. Has anyone picked up the new V-19 Torrent Starfighter? Eh to me I prefer to leave the pilots anyway... I think it would be cooler if it was the Autobots and Decpticons in the Transfromers Galaxy (hey they had an intergalactic battle already via Attatrix). But yeah, the only one that interests me too is the Death Star.
gerwalk25 Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 hi, guys I don't know if you inclued the lego stars war in this topic, anyway it's a toy and it's stars war, so have a look for this, it's not in sale i like the brik That would suck if that massive lego structure fell on the floor because it looks like it's gonna topple!
Scream Man Posted August 21, 2008 Posted August 21, 2008 Grabbed the new Luke figure (Desert windswept look) which is a pretty decent fig. Also grabbed the Apprentice Evolutions set; Toys not to bad but the demo for the game is AMAZING!!!
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted August 22, 2008 Posted August 22, 2008 Gah, I just looked up the "new" Y-wing. It's hideous. They totally ruined one of the neatest ships in the saga. http://www.starwars.com/theclonewars/news/...080403_2_bg.jpg The "conjectural" fully-armored Y-wing looked so much better: http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/c/...inal_Y-wing.jpg It made a lot more sense, too. I don't know of any car/ship/plane that has a structural frame totally unrelated to its exterior--but the Clone Wars Y-wing does. The illustration on the second link is from one of the Cross Section books, that are canon AFAIK. If I remember correctly that same book states that the Y-Wing needed some heavy maintenance, so the mechanics just decided to leave the outer panels off. I wonder why George Lucas felt that the factory version need to be redesigned. Maybe he just forgot that there was already an official version of it.
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