Roy's Blues Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 The pre-order at BBTS is only 22.95 each. Well worth it IMHO. Quote
s001 Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 I'm literally drooling now. All I can think of is: ¡BRING THE VF-11B! Quote
Mr March Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 (edited) ? It's not like I'd be overly bothered if the FAST Pack colors weren't in olive-grey like the anime. It certainly won't stop me from buying this YF-19 toy. But I am beginning to understand now how you feel. I really hope all these numerous production pictures and advertisments are just pre-production alphas and the real selling item will have the olive-grey FAST Packs. I hate how they make me worry Edited April 21, 2008 by Mr March Quote
kaiotheforsaken Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 After seeing this pic http://ga.sbcr.jp/mgangu/009713/01.html I can definitely pass on the 19. The 21 doesn't look too bad though. Quote
Fly4victory Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 It's not like I'd be overly bothered if the FAST Pack colors weren't in olive-grey like the anime. It certainly won't stop me from buying this YF-19 toy. But I am beginning to understand now how you feel. I really hope all these numerous production pictures and advertisments are just pre-production alphas and the real selling item will have the olive-grey FAST Packs. I hate how they make me worry If they are the correct color on not, I will buy one but if not then I have to use the Hasegawa as a guide and mix some paint. I wonder if the wings fold out on the 19 and if we will see the blue VF-19A from "VF-X" Quote
miriya Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 After seeing this pic http://ga.sbcr.jp/mgangu/009713/01.html I can definitely pass on the 19. The 21 doesn't look too bad though. Funny! Because that same picture is the one that made me decide that I absolutely must get one of these! Subjectivity>Form? Quote
Wicked Ace Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 I wonder. . . if we will see the blue VF-19A from "VF-X" One for the 1/60 scale toy would be nice, too. Quote
Mr March Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Fly4victory Hehehe, you might have a market there for other Macross fans that want the same. Like the old "Hand Recast" thing that went on for the 1/48 line miriya I was sold from the very first pictures I saw. Everything else is just icing on the cake Quote
Graham Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Are we all looking at the same toys? They look terrible IMO! Still will probably pick up one of each just for fun though. Graham Quote
UN Spacy Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Reviews are better when they're done by funny Japanese folks. Quote
ruskiiVFaussie Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Are we all looking at the same toys? They look terrible IMO! Still will probably pick up one of each just for fun though. Graham Yeah, just for fun ey? psh. Quote
lord_zed Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Just came back from Japan, the Regult and VF1J Max type, were in windows everywhere but not to buy. doh! After getting the Revoltech VF 1S not to mention Shin Getta I'm really won over by Revoltech and bought a heap in Japan, for the pricepoint they can't be beat. Am I the only one here who'd like to see Revoltech Bretai so I can pose him duking it out with the VF1j? Quote
yellowlightman Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Are we all looking at the same toys? They look terrible IMO! Still will probably pick up one of each just for fun though. Graham No free samples = not a good toy Quote
Graham Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 No free samples = not a good toy Not good sculpt = not good toy. Graham Quote
GogDog Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 (edited) No free samples = not a good toy Well to be honest, why would they give him free samples? He already has a predisposition towards hating them. If they are such bad sculpts, he shouldn't buy them. Why support a bad figure with your money? Edited April 22, 2008 by GogDog Quote
mechaninac Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Not good sculpt = not good toy. Graham I tend to agree as far as the YF-19 goes... the Revoltech joints just look goofy on that mecha, and the anime derived sculpt does suffer for it. The YF-21, however, is a whole different story; Omega One is bulgy by design, specially with the stylized sculpt, and the ball joints complement its aesthetics perfectly... add to that the beautiful finish on it (judging from the pictures) and the YF-21 is a complete out-of-the-park home run. Quote
GogDog Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Reviews are better when they're done by funny Japanese folks. Heh. That was awesome. Quote
kensei Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Rounded Revoltech joints really suit the YF-21. But I still love the beefiness of the YF-19. And the way that it can brawl! Quote
Mr March Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Yep, I love the way the sculpts of the Revoltechs matche the Kawamori line art style. And they can do all the great poses from the anime. They are as good as non-transformable figures get IMO and I'm buying them specifically for that reason. For a good transformable, the new VF-1 1/60 is where I'm going, but action figures, Revoltech has it down. Quote
Dante74 Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 No free samples = not a good toy non-transforming toy of a transforming mecha = pass Quote
one_klump Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 ok, not Macross, but this pic is from the revotech line, and I have no idea what this beast is called. any help? Quote
GogDog Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 ok, not Macross, but this pic is from the revotech line, and I have no idea what this beast is called. any help? I thinks it's from a subline coming out called Borg Assemble, but I'm not sure. That pic was at WonderFest with a bunch and partially translucent, very alien-looking figures. Quote
one_klump Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Borg Assemble, hmm, kinda looks like Stickfas or Xevoz on anime crack. But in a good way Found more info on that beast, its called the Tristriker and has 3 modes (go figure). Quote
GogDog Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 (edited) If you want to see more of the figure that go with that, go here and click the green (fifth one down) bar on the left of the flash picture. LINK Oh, and by the way, there is another Revoltech thread in the Anime and Science Fiction forum. I'm sure others would rather leave this one specifically for Macross related Revoltechs. Edit And it's "Assemble Borg," not Borg Assemble. I got it wrong. Here's another pic. PIC Posted more info HERE in the other thread. Edited April 23, 2008 by GogDog Quote
sidearmsalpha Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 I really like this pic of the Revoltech YF-19. Looks like that one scene where Isamu is flying the -19 for the first time, and he's having the time of his life. http://ga.sbcr.jp/mgangu/009713/04.html I wonder if the -21 is going to have 2 gunpods? I see one pic of it and the accessories showing 2 gunpods, then another pic (and the ad) only showing 1 gunpod. Quote
kaiotheforsaken Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Funny! Because that same picture is the one that made me decide that I absolutely must get one of these! Subjectivity>Form? Certainly looks that way. I suppose I've just come to love the lines on the 1/60 yammie version. Truth be told, I'll probably pass on the Macross releases all togetger. Revoltech is an excellent format, as we get some characters/mecha we don't see anywhere else (they still have the nicest Dante figure that you can actually pose) but if I'm gonna shell out 200 bucks for the big transforming versions of the 19/21 I might as well just stick with those. Quote
sidearmsalpha Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Well, the problem with the transforming Yamato's is that they could never achieve the poses that the Revoltech figures can, and for the asking price, you get a cool, extremely poseable figure. Doesn't bother me that it can't transform. That's the trade-off. The way I see it, I can build a cool display with different versions ot the YF-19. A cool looking transforming one from Yamato, the Revoltech version in some dynamic pose, the GN-U version (maybe), and the smaller line of Yamato versions in the 3 different modes. I can't wait for more of these to come out. Of course, it'll probably mean I'll have to give up something to collect more of these or sell off stuff that I don't really want or need anymore to make room. Quote
Mr March Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 (edited) I've no idea why people have a problem enjoying both, particularly for the wants both products fulfill exclusively. As much as I love and want more transformable Yamato's, they can't offer anime-like sculpts nor articulation that allows poses directly from the anime shows. It's like sidearmsalpha posted, we're buying Revoltechs for the specific reason they were designed; perfect replication of anime articulation. Of course, the Revoltechs also have the virtue of being much smaller and much, much cheaper. If there was a transformable toy that offered the best of everything, there would be no reason for a Revoltech (other than to fulfill a market for smaller, cheaper toys, which is in itself important). Slightly off topic, this is what also makes no sense to me regarding the fan criticisms of the new Yamato 1/60 scale VF-1. To me, the sculpt appears more anime-like, the articulation has been improved and the size is smaller. It's improving in almost every way and that's EXACTLY what I want. Yamato has my money on the new 1/60 VF-1. It's awesome! However... I won't be 100% fully satisfied until Yamato, Kaiyodo, or some other company makes a fully, perfect transformable VF-1 Valkyrie between 15-25 cenimeters in height that has the articulation of a Revoltech, the styling of a Hasegawa and the most favourable compromise of proportions between Fighter, Battroid and GERWALK modes. I'll continue to purhase Macross products that fulfill each of those wants until such time as a product is made that satisfies them all! Edited April 23, 2008 by Mr March Quote
Dante74 Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 sidearmsalpha and Mr. March, I guess I'm a different kind of collector. I don't want one shelf full of different toys of Isamu's YF-19 and one shelf full of focker's VF-1 etc. I want one YF-19 and one Focker VF-1 and I want the best rendition of each with transformation at the very top of my list of priorities. If I were to own the old Yamato 1/72 YF-19 and 21, I would have sold them the moment the 1/60's were anounced. Quote
GogDog Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 At least with the Revoltechs, I know what I'm getting. With the GN-U's I'll have to wait for the second run before I get one where the arm doesn't snap off. Quote
Mr March Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 sidearmsalpha and Mr. March, I guess I'm a different kind of collector. I don't want one shelf full of different toys of Isamu's YF-19 and one shelf full of focker's VF-1 etc. I want one YF-19 and one Focker VF-1 and I want the best rendition of each with transformation at the very top of my list of priorities. If I were to own the old Yamato 1/72 YF-19 and 21, I would have sold them the moment the 1/60's were anounced. Well that's just it: I'm not a collector. I don't own hundreds of figures and models and I don't complete product lines; I have a small collection of figures. I too like to purchase the best and the best transformable is Yamato. The best articulation is Revoltech. I also trade up over time. I purchased Yamato's first 1/60 VF-1, then sold it to buy my second 1/48. I'm now going to sell one of my 1/48s and buy the new Yamato 1/60. And at the cheap prices for the Revoltechs, I'll grab them on the side. From my perspecitve, things keep getting better, both the products and my ever changing "collection". Quote
s001 Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Hey that makes me wonder: Yamato's perfect trans.+Revoltech's articulation+Hasegawa's detail+Bandai's durability= Perfect Macross toy. Ahh what a dream. Quote
Mr March Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 As long as the franchise goes strong, I can see one day having my dream Valkyrie Quote
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