Ignacio Ocamica Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Looks like we will have to wait several years for larger detailed versions from Yamato and Hasegawa. Graham I don't like that sentence Quote
ruskiiVFaussie Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Several Years??? Cry bloody murder!!!! Ohh well, in that period i guess i'll have to spend it all on my kids (starting production of high end ruskiis' this year) education.. Ohh and that custom billards table that i want... Quote
GGemini Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 I think i'm turning senile. How come I didn't see that toy segment of the 25th anniversary special? Is there a "Extended Edition" of the TV Special where these were shown? Since the program aired in Dec, I've been wanting to watch it precisely to know if some prototypes were shown... Anyway... I hope the size of the toys (if they're not models) stays in the final product... in the TV Special for Macross 7 a prototype VF-19 was presented and it was bigger (and better) than what was actually produced Quote
Graham Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Not to be the bearer of bad news, but often early porototypes are a larger scale than the finished product. What we actually get, me be significantly smaller than what is shown in those pics. Graham Quote
Graham Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Several Years??? Cry bloody murder!!!! Ohh well, in that period i guess i'll have to spend it all on my kids (starting production of high end ruskiis' this year) education.. Ohh and that custom billards table that i want... From what I understand, Bandai is the main sponsor of the show and as such gets the exclusive toy and model rights for at least a couple of years. Basically, these means that Yamato and Hasegawa are locked out, unless they negotiate a sub-licence directly with Bandai, which I can't see happening. Graham Quote
wolfx Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Was this in the 25th Anniversary special? I don't remember seeing anything like this. Apparently from the Macross F threads there is an extended version of the Special with this segment. http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?s=&a...st&p=558712 Quote
Graham Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Though judging by SK's face in the pictures I get the impression his smile was being polite. I have no doubt he'd rather Yamato do the transforming toys and Hasegawa do the model kits. Bandai is too big and too commited to it's cash cow, Gundam, to really make quality toys of any other franchise... Yeah, I love the look on Kawamori's face in that last photo. It's like he's thinking; "What they f#ck is this crap?" "Where's my Yamato, dude?" Kawamori and Yamato actually work quite closely together on the 1/60 toy line. Graham Quote
Wicked Ace Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Oh and Bandai better bloody well do the VF-171! Graham Are we absolutely sure Yamato won't be making Macross Frontier toys? In the Macross Frontier pilot episode, we get a pretty good view of a VF-171 launching from what appears to be a Yamato display stand, t-bar adapter attachment and all. I can't get a good screen grab; perhaps some member can help me out by posting one. Quote
cyde01 Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 From what I understand, Bandai is the main sponsor of the show and as such gets the exclusive toy and model rights for at least a couple of years. Basically, these means that Yamato and Hasegawa are locked out, unless they negotiate a sub-licence directly with Bandai, which I can't see happening. Graham damn u bandaiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!! Quote
Noyhauser Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Are we absolutely sure Yamato won't be making Macross Frontier toys? In the Macross Frontier pilot episode, we get a pretty good view of a VF-171 launching from what appears to be a Yamato display stand, t-bar adapter attachment and all. I can't get a good screen grab; perhaps some member can help me out by posting one. No, thats the standard launcher we see the ARDM series use in DYRL... which the Guantanamo class is the follow on to (and in service for over fifty years.) Quote
Wicked Ace Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) I was half-way joking with my launch arm post. I was amused by what looks like the t-bar adapter (look at the prongs on it, when the underside of the -171 is shown). The DYRL launch arm grabbed from the top, not the bottom, like what we see in the MF pilot episode. Edited February 5, 2008 by Wicked Ace Quote
badboy00z Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 I wonder how much influence Kawamori can have in getting Bandai to share the license or sub license with Yamato early on. I mean, he's pretty much the father of Macross. He should have a say in which company(ies) should get to do the products. Quote
Hiriyu Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Several Years??? Cry bloody murder!!!! Ohh well, in that period i guess i'll have to spend it all on my kids (starting production of high end ruskiis' this year) education.. Ohh and that custom billards table that i want... From the Compendium... PC 2865 Development on powerful biological weapons based on the RuskiiVFaussie, "Vile Series," begins. [Note: "Vile" pronounced as "Vi-Leh"] Vile is the abbreviation of the Protoculture term for "advanced (Ruskii) all-environ biological weapon." Trial production takes place on a scientifically advanced planet (the first planet of the star system later known as Australia), but because of unresolvable problems with the weapons' power exceeding the parenting capability requirements, trial production is halted. PC 2871 On the [aforementioned] scientifically advanced planet, trial production of the "Custom Billiard Table" for final tests is begun. The Custom Billiard Table tests are begun, but at the same time biological super dimension organs overload and extradimensional energy is released. Approximately one year after the emergence of the Billiard Table, the Proto-Ruskii's power begins to rapidly decline. Quote
Golden Arms Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Great. My worse fears concerning the Frontier License have been confirmed. Looking at those prototypes, I seriously doubt that Bandai will anything worthwhile with the license. Valks shouldn't be done in a scale smaller than 1/72. Quote
Sumdumgai Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 To quote another series: "I have a bad feeling about this..." Quote
nugundamII Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 To quote another series: "I have a bad feeling about this..." Come on guys it might not be all that bad. Heck they might also release these in the SOC line and they will rock Quote
Dante74 Posted February 5, 2008 Author Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) I think i'm turning senile. How come I didn't see that toy segment of the 25th anniversary special? Was this in the 25th Anniversary special? I don't remember seeing anything like this. Heh, weird, I don't remember seeing these in the 25th anniversery special. Graham It seems there are two versions of the tv special, this one has IAD's RC SV-51 in it and they also show these prototypes. Fast forward to 25.00. Link to stage 6 Edited February 5, 2008 by Dante74 Quote
Wicked Ace Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Come on guys it might not be all that bad. Heck they might also release these in the SOC line and they will rock Welcome to Macrossworld.com, where we as an online community don't wait until the last minute to despair-- we're the first gather picks and torches, and gripe on these forums. Quote
Graham Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Too be honest, those early prototype pics, look fairly ok, considering they are unpainted in the rough rapid prototype samples. Graham Quote
valkyrie13 Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Too be honest, those early prototype pics, look fairly ok, considering they are unpainted in the rough rapid prototype samples. Graham I would have to agree. However, I am just wondering if these prototypes were deliberately made smaller for a larger product. Graham, would this be a possibility? If not, then I would bet that these are in 1/100 scale and not my favored 1/72. Hmmm... I wonder if Bandai would be releasing these as part of their "Master Grade" Macross Series. Quote
RDClip Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Eh, they look okay to me. Its kinda hard to tell since they are pure white and pure amber. I wonder how much Bandai will charge for them. Quote
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 I wish there was a videogame made with the VF-25 in it so yamato can make a game edition of the vf-25 in 1/60 scale. Quote
Dante74 Posted February 5, 2008 Author Posted February 5, 2008 I wish there was a videogame made with the VF-25 in it so yamato can make a game edition of the vf-25 in 1/60 scale. If the series turns out to be succesfull, I'm sure a game will be produced, but that doesn't mean Yamato will be ably to get the license. I think Bandai will still have first dibbs on it. Quote
Sumdumgai Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 (edited) I didn't say this would turn out to be horrible toys and models. I just don't have a good vibe from seeing those pics. The Hory Froating Head's expression adds to that feeling and makes me laugh out loud. I hope that Bandai steps up and puts some time, effort, and care into doing some Macross Frontier toys, and doesn't go half-assed. Oh yeah: VF-171 needs to be made damnit! Edited February 5, 2008 by Sumdumgai Quote
eriku Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Regarding Kawamori's expression in that screencap - all we can do is take it out of context. For all we know the guy next to him just farted. Quote
Black Valkyrie Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Bandai, I am not surprise. I hope for medium scale HCM-Pro figures, since I have no more interest in large figures. Quote
Graham Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 I would have to agree. However, I am just wondering if these prototypes were deliberately made smaller for a larger product. Graham, would this be a possibility? Nope, never done that way. It's done either: 1) Larger initial sculpt -> smaller final product. or 2) Same size initial sculpt -> same size final product. Never done smaller inital sculpt -> larger final product. Honestly we have no idea what these things being shown are yet. They maybe toys or models kit. They may be transforming or non-transforming. Heck, they may even be large inital sculpts for what are going to be scaled down to gashapon figures in final production. Without having a translation of what is being said in the TV program, it's useless to speculate too much at this point. Graham Quote
Fly4victory Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 If the series turns out to be succesfull, I'm sure a game will be produced, but that doesn't mean Yamato will be ably to get the license. I think Bandai will still have first dibbs on it. Bandai will make the game just like they make the Gundam games. It will be awesome but only in Japanese with no English, the excuse will be Toynami believing they own all things Macross, and just like Battle Chronics we will get to learn enough Japanese to operate the game or just bumble through the menus. Really happy that PSP and PS3 are region free but the way my luck is the Macross 25th game will be a "timed exclusive" for some other system. Either way looks like Bandai will be running the show. Quote
cyde01 Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 i would translate it for you guys if i could connect to macrossworld on my home computer!!! Quote
CF18 Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 It will just depends on how succssful Macross F will be. Take Code Geass as an example: Bandai was probably not expecting much out of it, but the show turns out to be extremely popular and the DVDs sold very well. When season one was airing, on the mecha side Bandai only released one basic high-grade model and one rather sucky toy (example). Well looks like they learned their leason and with coming season 2 a stream of toys are coming out of them, start with low end In-action figs and just today announced a high-end Super-HCM-Pro class toy. For Macross F, Bandai may again wait-and-see and only release a few cheap stuff first. But if Bandai is already investing big bucks in Macross F anime then they will go all out the toys will be quite good. Quote
VF-25 Angelus Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 I can only hope so. It would be nice to have a VF-25 sitting on the shelf next to its predecessors. Quote
eugimon Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 It will just depends on how succssful Macross F will be. Take Code Geass as an example: Bandai was probably not expecting much out of it, but the show turns out to be extremely popular and the DVDs sold very well. When season one was airing, on the mecha side Bandai only released one basic high-grade model and one rather sucky toy (example). Well looks like they learned their leason and with coming season 2 a stream of toys are coming out of them, start with low end In-action figs and just today announced a high-end Super-HCM-Pro class toy. For Macross F, Bandai may again wait-and-see and only release a few cheap stuff first. But if Bandai is already investing big bucks in Macross F anime then they will go all out the toys will be quite good. or bandai will take this oppertunity to destroy the macross franchise for another 20 years just so they can churn out more gundam shows. Quote
Fly4victory Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 or bandai will take this oppertunity to destroy the macross franchise for another 20 years just so they can churn out more gundam shows. Macross Friends don't let Macross Friends become Gundam Fans! Quote
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