Dante74 Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 I'm trying to tranform mine back into fighter mode, but I can't get the engine part back down. Am I missing a peg that needs to be unstuck?
Swoosh Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 OK, my partial review is up. See YAMATO 1/60 YF-21 REVIEW. The photos are done, but I'm still writing the text. As usual, Swoosh's photos are much better than mine (gotta ask him how he does his lighting). Enjoy. Next up, Yamato GN-U Macross Plus toys review. Graham wow!!! YF-21 with fold booster looks much better than YF-19 with booster!!! I use my desktop lamp as the main light source.
Dante74 Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 YF-21 in GERWALK mode is much much bigger!! That's because you have it misstransformed. The back part needs to be pushed forward. after doing that you can lock the parts that hold the FAST pack on a little peg on the side of the engines. I'v been trying to get mine back into fighter mode for over an hour now but I just can't seem to fit everything into the fuselage.
wolfx Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 OK, my partial review is up. See YAMATO 1/60 YF-21 REVIEW. The photos are done, but I'm still writing the text. As usual, Swoosh's photos are much better than mine (gotta ask him how he does his lighting). Enjoy. Next up, Yamato GN-U Macross Plus toys review. Graham I was randomly clicking on some photos that interest me and found out one of the thumbnails is wrongly linked. http://macrossworld.com/macross/toys/YF-21/123.JPG should be http://macrossworld.com/macross/toys/YF-21/23.JPG
Swoosh Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) That's because you have it misstransformed. The back part needs to be pushed forward. after doing that you can lock the parts that hold the FAST pack on a little peg on the side of the engines. I'v been trying to get mine back into fighter mode for over an hour now but I just can't seem to fit everything into the fuselage. oh, my bad... need to do it again, thanks for letting me know. I also had a hard time to change it back too unitl I found that it was the knee joint, not pushed it correctly.. EDIT: GERWALK mode corrected Edited June 1, 2008 by Swoosh
Reactive Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Okay, I take back what I said about battroid mode looking too compromised for fighter (and will probably be a couple hundred poorer as a consequence )...leg proportions could be better, but can see from all the pics now they did a pretty good job all things considered. Makes me wonder why yamato couldn't spend a little more time finding a better pose/angle/lighting for their 'official' battroid mode pic: Compared to just about all of swoosh's (ignoring fastpack): And thanks for the images/reviews all.
Swoosh Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) GERWALK in correct(I guess) transformation. Edited June 1, 2008 by Swoosh
Arthurius Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Can you please take a picture of the yf-21 with fps, and the front air intake area open. thx
Swoosh Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Can you please take a picture of the yf-21 with fps, and the front air intake area open. thx Fighter mode?
Dante74 Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 I also had a hard time to change it back too unitl I found that it was the knee joint, not pushed it correctly.. hmmm. I guess I'll have to start over and check that, thanks.
ruskiiVFaussie Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SWOOSH PERFECT GODLY PICS! Battroid mode looks fine, totally great angles and poses proves it. So glad i got two, i think my third will be a colour variant. Edited June 1, 2008 by ruskiiVFaussie
Dante74 Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Finally got it back into figther mode with everything fitting into the fuselage. The knees have to be postioned exactle right for it to fit. Thanks swoosh! Here's some more pics.
Golden Arms Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) Yamato should rerelease the fold Booster. Isamu and Guld don't like to share anything. Great pics yet again Swoosh!!! I like to use them as a transformation guide to make sure I've transformed my bird properly. Graham, are there any plans to do a transformation vid, like you did for the 19? Edited June 1, 2008 by Golden Arms
recon Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Tks swoosh for the pics! Always awesome shots as usual. Would be getting mine when its reissued...afterall im skeptical about first releases by yamato.
misterryno Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Swoosh, THANKS for the AWESOME PICS! I don't think I need to even go buy one now. I'll just download your pics into my computer and feel like I own one . Dante74, I like your last pic of them "fighting". VERY fun!
misterryno Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 OK, my partial review is up. See YAMATO 1/60 YF-21 REVIEW. Graham GREAT Partial review mate! Also.....AWESOME POSES! I dig the 21 with the foldildo.
Arthurius Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) pls take a photo of Robot mode with fps and the front intakes open, not closed, i think it might look good Edited June 1, 2008 by Arthurius
Vermillion21 Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Thanks for the AMAZING pics Swoosh!! Can't wait for mine to arrive ...
Vic Mancini Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 OK, my partial review is up. See YAMATO 1/60 YF-21 REVIEW. The photos are done, but I'm still writing the text. As usual, Swoosh's photos are much better than mine (gotta ask him how he does his lighting). Enjoy. Next up, Yamato GN-U Macross Plus toys review. Graham Don't sell yourself short. Your pics are pretty amazing too. Love em!
Kyp Durron Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) My God, could it be...the first new release Yamato valk with no QC issues? I think Hell might be freezing over, lol. And the SV-51 Nora and CF valks don't count as they're just repaints. -Kyp Edited June 1, 2008 by Kyp Durron
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Swoosh you have made the YF-19 look fu*cking awesome in gerwalk mode, and it never looks good in gerwalk mode! Great pics guys. I'd like to buy both the 19 and 21, but the fact that I would be paying nearly $400 for both makes me hesitant. I'll just keep staring at the pics though.
valhary Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) thanks for the pics swoosh and graham excelent review!!!! Edited June 1, 2008 by valhary
type j9 Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 goods pics swoosh and thank graham for the first review just want to know if guns under the front arm may leave a little more or do not move at all. thanks.........
Dante74 Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 goods pics swoosh and thank graham for the first review just want to know if guns under the front arm may leave a little more or do not move at all. thanks......... They don't move, the whole lower arms is pushed up exposing the guns.
type j9 Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 They don't move, the whole lower arms is pushed up exposing the guns. thank Dante I thought they came out much more in fact. I just turn my 1 / 72 YF21 and they do not leave too much !!!!!!! the forearm back, but I thought that after the gun is drawn outward also
David Hingtgen Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 OK, my partial review is up. See YAMATO 1/60 YF-21 REVIEW. The photos are done, but I'm still writing the text. Next up, Yamato GN-U Macross Plus toys review. Graham Yeah---but we're still waiting on the Sv-51 review!
MacrossMan Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 All the pics are greatly appreciated from you guys. Looking at them makes it just that more difficult on us guys waiting. Glad to see, or hear rather, that there have been no serious complaints. I didn't even care for this Valk and only purchased it because I had just gotten into the hobby and had to have anything to do with Macross. After seeing the pictures I have to agree with others that it looks like some of the best work Yamato has done to date. Also glad to hear that it is solid in fighter mode as I had planned on displaying mine in this mode. Other modes are just as fantastic so it's good to see that fighter mode isn't the only awesome way for it to be displayed. Come on China boat! Us guys stateside anxiously await your arrival!!! OO
miriya Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Swoosh! Great Pics! Thanks. Makes me really want the YF-19 w FP too! I have wanted it for a while but still do not have.
MacrossMan Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Swoosh you have made the YF-19 look fu*cking awesome in gerwalk mode, and it never looks good in gerwalk mode! Great pics guys. I'd like to buy both the 19 and 21, but the fact that I would be paying nearly $400 for both makes me hesitant. I'll just keep staring at the pics though. Ahh...the longer you wait the more jagged the pill is going to be to swallow. I've just bitten the bullet and said fluck it to get some of my collection. Like taking a shot; just turn your head, close your eyes and click buy! Initially stings, but the satisfaction of receiving the toy makes it all that much better. Besides that you don't look up and reailze it's gonig to take $1000 to catch up, or $400 in your case. I say go ahead and make the purchase bro! You won't regret it! OO
hal9000 Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) "You Can't go to war if you'r affread to cut out the limiter!" I tried to stop him but he did it any way. Yha he was drunk, found him in the fridge with my 1/48 Miriya boy Max was pissed. Edited June 1, 2008 by hal9000
Chindenathus Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) The "delimiter" is the "Safety Overide" Guld activated well before he jettisoned the shattered remnants of the mecha's limbs. Not to get "All Hintgen" on you folks but jettisoning the limbs does not "de-limit" anything. It lowers the mech's weight but it pretty much wrecks the aerodnamics of the YF-21. You can see it all in this footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHQGUmJgoBE...feature=related Edited June 1, 2008 by Chindenathus
David Hingtgen Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 Seconding that, to prevent mis-information. De-limiter is purely "software"---the safeties built-in to the flight computer's programming (that are there to prevent damage to the pilot or plane from excessive manuevers) are turned off to allow "extreme" moves---at the risk of damage or even destruction of the aircraft. And Guld used it to its fullest. "ripping the limbs off" is nothing more than battle damage---but due to the YF-21 being different from every other valk (engines aren't in the legs) losing the arms and legs leaves enough of the airframe intact to still fly. Guld decided to risk it all (literally) by turning off the limiters BECAUSE the plane had lost its limbs---he was frankly losing, and there wasn't much else to try. De-limiter mode was activated because of and after the loss of limbs----but the two are not related. Many real planes have software limits programmed in just like the YF-21----but not many have an "over-ride" switch. (The Super Hornet and Flanker do, I bet the F-22 does as well). None can over-ride the limiters with a mental command though. Any plane can be commanded to do/attempt manuevers it will not survive---but computer-controlled planes etc can be programmed to stop right before the limit of what they can do. It's a safety feature---kind of like anti-lock brakes, but instead it's "anti-shatter flaps". No airliner can have those limiters disabled, and few fighters can (because even most fighters couldn't physically perform THAT much better than they already do--no point in eeking out a 2% better turn rate if it destroys the plane in a quarter-second)---but some can go so far "beyond the limit" for a few seconds that it may be worth it to get that one last, desperate shot that wins the war or saves the girl. The YF-21 is one of those, so it can turn off those limiters in the software.
hal9000 Posted June 1, 2008 Posted June 1, 2008 I know what a delimiter is in the aircraft world. I was just panel lining and fixing the sholders and hips on my 0S. when it was laying there it sruck me as amusing. It may have helped that I was watching Eps 1 & 2 of Mac+.
David Hingtgen Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 My post was more "an informative FYI to all members of MW egarding YF-21's" than directly responding to you. Delimiter vs limbless has come up a lot the past few months (and usually in the wrong way).
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