Ignacio Ocamica Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Two pages in a day and no new pictures?? This thread DEMANDS tons of pics!!!!
persona Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 (edited) does anyone have a picture of the YF 21 and YF 19 together that we can salivate on? OT: proper = wicked ? i heard posh spice say MAJOR... proper = wicked = major ??? Edited May 29, 2008 by persona
Kyp Durron Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Ok. here we go. This review will reflect the amount of time i've had so far to play with it. I haven't been able to do gerwalk as of yet. At work right now so Gerwalk review will come tomorrow. First, the nit-picking. I want to get this out of the way because there is so much that;s great about this toy, I don't want to dwell on it too much. The main issues i have with the 21 are as follows: 1) I can find no way of locking the torso in battroid mode so the fuselage just flaps there. 2) The feet ore visible in fighter mode. 2) The knee armor keeps popping off. 3) The antenna falls out easily. I will glue that on because I see losing it in the future. 4) The left hand does not do a great job of tightly hiding the gunpod. #1 is no biggie as I'm more about the fighter mode anyways. #2 I already knew about from the previous pictures, again, not a big deal to me. #3 Also not a big deal, it doesn't sound like anything my hot glue gun can't fix. #4 -See my answer on #1. Fighter mode being tight and staying that way even after multiple transformations is what I like to hear! It sounds like this is gonna be an awesome Valk and makes me glad that I've got one coming my way. -Kyp
misterryno Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Alex, THANKS for the review! I can't wait to get the dough to get one of these bad boys.
Dobber Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 #1 is no biggie as I'm more about the fighter mode anyways. #2 I already knew about from the previous pictures, again, not a big deal to me. #3 Also not a big deal, it doesn't sound like anything my hot glue gun can't fix. #4 -See my answer on #1. Fighter mode being tight and staying that way even after multiple transformations is what I like to hear! It sounds like this is gonna be an awesome Valk and makes me glad that I've got one coming my way. -Kyp Me too, totally agree with you. I know many people here get upset about Battroid proportions on a lot of the releases but Macross has alwas been about Fighters that transform into robots, and a realistic looking fighter that can transform into a robot is whats important for me. Chris
Batou Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Got my shipping notice today! Now to find some shelf space for this beauty ... if there aren't any glaring QC issues with this release, I have a feeling this is going to be my centerpiece and pride and joy. Well, until they release a massive Macross or something.
hal9000 Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 1/60 Monster man that will be huge and out faster then and SDF-1 from Yamato. But I do want both.
Vermillion21 Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Thanks for the review Alex! Can't wait to get this baby myself. Two pages in a day and no new pictures?? This thread DEMANDS tons of pics!!!! Agreed. Pic please!!!!
eriku Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Hmm...if the torso doesn't lock into place that's enough reason for me to give this a pass. I thought it wouldn't bother me on the 19, but it did and I ended up getting rid of it because of that. Hopefully there's a trick or something to make it lock.
misterryno Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Hmm...if the torso doesn't lock into place that's enough reason for me to give this a pass. I thought it wouldn't bother me on the 19, but it did and I ended up getting rid of it because of that. Hopefully there's a trick or something to make it lock. Won't have time to handle the production toy I brought until Friday night at the earliest. However, the pre-production sample that I handled extensively had a hinged fold down locking bar to lock the torso together in battroid mode. Graham Why would they change that?!? It prob. does lock. Just needs some fiddlin done with it. I will still buy one eventually.
eriku Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Yeah, it would be incredibly strange if they took that locking mechanism off the production model. It also doesn't seem like something Alex would miss...oh well. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
eugimon Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Graham and alex were talking about two different things. Graham already confirmed he was talking about a lock for the back and Alex was talking about the fuselage/cockpit.
peolesdru Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Why would they change that?!? It prob. does lock. Just needs some fiddlin done with it. I will still buy one eventually. Here's what I got out of that conversation: alex was saying that the cockpit area of the plane doesn't seem to lock down. Graham misunderstood and pointed to the feature where the torso and the "backpack" lock together, then alex clarified that he knew about THAT locking mechanism already, but was referring to the cockpit component. So there's no "change" - they were just talking about two different things for a moment there. So as it stands, it would appear that the cockpit doesn't "lock down".
misterryno Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Okay okay...I got it already . We'll just have to see if Alex figures something out to lock whatever part he is having diffaculty with.
David Hingtgen Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Which is annoying----why keep making fighter mode "solid and more tight" with each release---if they still don't have the top half of the battroid locked at all? All the YF-19 needs is SOMETHING, just one little peg or hinge---and they don't give us that. But they seem to add more tabs and posts to fighter mode---why? The Sv-51 sorta holds together, but that's more due to pressure/tightness than any peg or lock. Dear Yamato: LOCK THE CHEST DOWN IN BATTROID. Forget everything else until you do that.
HG Blows Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Got my notification too! I'm with Kyp, this is all about fighter mode for me. If I want Battroid mode, I'll just wait for the Revy or GNU.
eugimon Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 While the locking chest isn't too big of a deal for me, I get why people are getting frustrated with this. We're paying money for a transforming toy, and all three modes should be stable.
Nani?! Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 (edited) This is a transforming toy we're paying $200 + dollars for. I understand that people have a favorite mode but at that price, it better be functional and tight on all modes. If I just wanted fighter-mode, I'll make me a friggin model for less than 40 bucks. Fortunately, I keep my valks in display 98% of the time, so I'm reminded less of the fact that the yf-19 doesnt lock in place in Battroid but if I handled it at all... It'd bug the crap out of me. So yea, I definitely understand those who feel miffed... It's also telling when of all people, "Fighter-mode-man" Dave is frustrated with it... But in the same light as what eugimon said... It wouldn't be a yamato if it didnt have a couple "Duh!" retardations. Thankfully, the retardations are getting milder and milder. Edited May 29, 2008 by Nani?!
ruskiiVFaussie Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Yeah Graham / Alex please let us know about the Chest, is it too floppy?
Ignacio Ocamica Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 If it was a floppy mess the battroid wouldn't hold these poses (the fuselage would move foward). I'm not worried at all Let's wait till Graham or Alex clarify this "issue".
ruskiiVFaussie Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Yeah i had that pose/display in the back of my mind. You beat me to the punch.
Ignacio Ocamica Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Yeah i had that pose/display in the back of my mind. You beat me to the punch. YF-21 Defenders Club!!! I won't let anyone critisize this beauty
ruskiiVFaussie Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 (edited) lol, who can rot this beauty has to be mad. Edited May 30, 2008 by ruskiiVFaussie
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 If it was a floppy mess the battroid wouldn't hold these poses (the fuselage would move foward). I'm not worried at all wink.gif Let's wait till Graham or Alex clarify this "issue". Not floppy in those poses due to gravity, but what about if you want to turn it to the side, or at an angle like when Isamu and Guld were dogfighting with their FAST packs on?
ruskiiVFaussie Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 (edited) I can't see how turning it to the side would be any more floppy prone than almost horizontal? ?_? Edited May 30, 2008 by ruskiiVFaussie
eugimon Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 I can't see how turning it to the side would be any more floppy prone than almost horizontal? ?_? how dare you interrupt our bitching, what with your vaunted logic and reasoning?
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 I can't see how turning it to the side would be any more floppy prone than almost horizontal? ?_? Handle the 1/72 VF-19A, notice how its torso easily dislodges if you turn it to the side and forwards at an angle.
ruskiiVFaussie Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 well lets just hope SOMEONE will go home from work and let us KNOW. >____________> = G-MAN
Jasonc Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 I just checked my HLJ orders, and it's on the way!!! As of two days ago. So, hopefully by this friday or Saturday, it'll be here. Time to get out the welcome home signs.
peolesdru Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 I just checked my HLJ orders, and it's on the way!!! As of two days ago. So, hopefully by this friday or Saturday, it'll be here. Time to get out the welcome home signs. Lucky. Mine would be on its way but apparently my bank has some sort of restriction on non-USA vendors. So I'm having to switch over to PayPal for my payment option. Hopefully, they'll get that straightened out with me tomorrow, but I suppose it may not ship until next week, so it won't be here for TWO WEEKS! Woe is me - Surely no human being alive today faces a bigger conundrum than I! I mean, except for 99.99% of them. <Perspective Restored>
wolfx Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 1) I can find no way of locking the torso in battroid mode so the fuselage just flaps there. This sounds bad....and i dun get what some ppl mentioned that its different from what Graham said. Even the 1/72s had a locking torso.....
sidearmsalpha Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Man, I didn't think the feet showing in fighter mode would bother me, but now that I've seen a pic of it, I'm underwhelmed. I can't believe they couldn't design a folding flap or something to hide the feet. It just looks out of place on an otherwise killer looking fighter mode. Oh well. A friend of mine is getting one from Kevin. I'll have to see it first-hand to see how bad I want this now.
Beware of Blast Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 (edited) This sounds bad....and i dun get what some ppl mentioned that its different from what Graham said. Even the 1/72s had a locking torso..... Edited May 30, 2008 by Beware of Blast
Alex Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 (edited) Ok. I found a way to lock the torso. It's a little half-arsed and I see it getting looser over time, but it's there. Basically the locking mechanism is at the very top of the torso. There are two tiny nub-lets on the intakes. these friction-lock the very top of the fuselage where it splits to form the cowl. Edited May 30, 2008 by Alex
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