MacrossMan Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 I have posability concerns regarding the ittty-bitty feet on Yamato's 1/60 scale -21. Of course, what would this thread be if the D-stance didn't keep popping up? What exactly is this? Is this the new 1/60 or something else???
eugimon Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 D-Stance kit tis this be.: http://park1.wakwak.com/~jasshy/yf21.html
Chindenathus Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 I do like how the lower calf/ankle of the D-stance is at a slightly different angle than the rest of the leg, i.e. it doesn't go straight down. It reinforces the q-rau heritage, imo. Dude, the Q=Rau has lower legs as straight as any Valk:
eugimon Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 (edited) Dude, the Q=Rau has lower legs as straight as any Valk: look at the outside line of the lower leg, it flares down. Now look at the d-stance, the ankle/lower leg angles forward mimicking that flare. Now look at the yamato yf-21, it drops straight down, does not mimick the flare: Edited April 12, 2008 by eugimon
kensei Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 I wouldn't say no flare, I would just say that the Yamato emphasizes it less.
eugimon Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 yeah, okay... it is there but I think my point still stands. The d-stance mimics that angle a lot better than the yamato does.
kensei Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Yeah, might be consideration for some room while the legs are in the bay underneath. Just a thought. There didn't look like there would be much more room, since we didn't get chunkier legs.
eugimon Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 yeah, it's not a big deal for me. I had just said so many negative things about the d-stance compared to the yamato, I thought I would throw in the one thing I do like about it (relatively).
Sumdumgai Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Well the D-stance should be standing up with straighter legs, because that pose probably emphasizes the curves on the legs more than they would be in a more upright pose like the Q-rau and Yamato YF-21. It is quite curved regardless.
ruskiiVFaussie Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 (edited) It will be a challenge at least to get some good poses for the 21 batt mode, i'm good for it. Edited April 12, 2008 by ruskiiVFaussie
chowyunskinny Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 look at the outside line of the lower leg, it flares down. Now look at the d-stance, the ankle/lower leg angles forward mimicking that flare. Now look at the yamato yf-21, it drops straight down, does not mimick the flare: "You know what, Eugimon, if you want it to have 37 pieces of flare, like your pretty boy D-Stance over there, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces of flare?" sorry couldn't resist an Office Space nod
Fatalist Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Are we really nitpicking it that much that we (as in not me) have to complain about "leg flair"? Wow. I'm really disappointed in what this place has become.
Wicked Ace Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Are we really nitpicking it that much that we (as in not me) have to complain about "leg flair"? Wow. I'm really disappointed in what this place has become.
eugimon Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 (edited) Are we really nitpicking it that much that we (as in not me) have to complain about "leg flair"? Wow. I'm really disappointed in what this place has become. yes, you're so smart and enlightened. yay you. I know you're against critical thought when it comes to films (or at least those you work on) but I didn't know you didn't want us to compare discuss toys as well. Edited April 12, 2008 by eugimon
Fatalist Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 yes, you're so smart and enlightened. yay you. I know you're against critical thought when it comes to films (or at least those you work on) but I didn't know you didn't want us to compare discuss toys as well. Oh don't go getting your panties in a bunch. I'm not saying that you can't discuss this or that. Just saying that nitpicking something down to a "leg flair" is a little much, and its to the point of sounding like whining, spoiled little babies. Which is what we've all become really since Yamato started producing these toys.
eugimon Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Oh don't go getting your panties in a bunch. I'm not saying that you can't discuss this or that. Just saying that nitpicking something down to a "leg flair" is a little much, and its to the point of sounding like whining, spoiled little babies. Which is what we've all become really since Yamato started producing these toys. Jeebus, talk about panties in a bunch... did you even follow how we got to this point, or did you just have a knee jerk reaction? This wasn't nit picking, this was comparing the d-stance to the yamato and finally a discussion on how the leg elements compare or do not compare to design elements on the q-rau. There was no negativity or whining, until now. When you introduced it.
AlphaOne Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Ah, I remember a time when something like this: had us united in garnering only "oohs" and "ahs" ...and now look at us, fighting amongst ourselves. **By the way, thanks goes out to Graham for this pic.
dizman Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Macrossworld has always been about nitpicking, complaining and arguing. Its never gonna change . Plus we need things to talk about before the aparent late April/early May release date so it has come down to comparing a model to a mass produced toy. In my opinion the thing looks perfect, whats is it with you people and your chubby leg fetishes.
Scream Man Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 yeah I like it. It looks as good to me as a 21 is ever going too. Ill buy it. Nuff said till we get em in hand.
M'Kyuun Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 Given the sleekness of the fighter mode, I think Yamato did well capturing the look of the 21's B-mode without compromising one or the other too much. The legs look skinny in the pics, but I'll be happier to judge proportions when I can turn it this way and that and stand it next to my 19. For what it's worth, it's a pretty damned good looking toy as is, and I can overlook the slim legs for what it contributes to the fighter. I just hope the joints are solid and it balances well enough to pose a bit.
badboy00z Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 I wonder how well it'll balance. It looks top heavy.
ruskiiVFaussie Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 Just stole a couple of pics from G-Man's page (http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/toys/YF-21/yf21.htm), my fav 2 pics. This pic above is brilliant with the wings in fast speed mode folded down, i plan to rip off the legs and arms for delimiter mode, gonna be b e a u t i f u l!
SuperHobo Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 Just stole a couple of pics from G-Man's page (http://www.macrossworld.com/macross/toys/YF-21/yf21.htm), my fav 2 pics. This pic above is brilliant with the wings in fast speed mode folded down, i plan to rip off the legs and arms for delimiter mode, gonna be b e a u t i f u l! Shoot, man the legs and arms are already so well hidden why even bother taking off the arms and legs?
ruskiiVFaussie Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 Be a shame to ruin the tail wings though i guess. But still!
ruskiiVFaussie Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 (edited) Just to bring up even more awesomeness - http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=uAuFI09A4fE TV add! (previously posted) There are some nicer poses of battroid mode in the add. So mecha horny now.... Edited April 13, 2008 by ruskiiVFaussie
misterryno Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 So mecha horny now.... I am too!!!! THANKS for posting those wonderful pics again. And the vid.
RDClip Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Oh, i am so looking forward to this. I haven't bought a toy in 3 months to save up for this.
Uxi Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Must.have.YF-21. Already have it pre-ordered... but hope I can wait out HLJ. I'll probably end up buying it from Frank & Sons as soon as I see it.
GogDog Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) I notice there there are two different versions of the gunpod for the YF-21. On the D-stance, and the new GN-U figure, it has a blue gunpod, but on the 1/60, it has a gray one. Did it have different coloring in the OVA version than the movie version or something? Edited April 14, 2008 by GogDog
jenius Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Gray for Fastpacks versions, blue for no fast packs I would imagine.
Roy's Blues Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Me too. But there is so much anime majic going on, the legs in that shot would make fighter mode look like a transformers technobot. now nobody wants that....
David Hingtgen Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Yeah. I mean, the animation has the entire front half of the plane (torso) only as long as the SHIN...
ruskiiVFaussie Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 (edited) I like the proportions of this: ohh yeah, i love this pic, this is the first image of the YF-21 (battroid) before i watched the OVA or seen advertisements. Yeah. I mean, the animation has the entire front half of the plane (torso) only as long as the SHIN... lol! very true. Edited April 17, 2008 by ruskiiVFaussie
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