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If Bond was going to be a realistic British spy he would have to have a more 'flexible' sexuality because it sounds like a lot of them had to be into anything (literally) to be successful. The whole 'womaniser' thing is a load of dingo's kidneys.

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LOL, that's true. I hear that the long-term diplomatic corps of many countries is actually gay because of the difficulty of having families, etc. I've met a few ambassadors and they were certainly not straight hahaha

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Bond Kills for Queen & Country

Previous Bonds and even novels ones had class. Sure he was capable of doing bad things but he appreciate fine things and was refined.

Craig's Bond is more of thug. They can put him in a penguin suit but he stands out as a tough guy. He walks in to a place and he looks like trouble.

I known Casino Royal he suppose to be Bond before he was Bond. He still seems very rough around the edges in the previews for this movie. Craig is 40 years old can we honestly expect to see more refined Bond by the 3rd outing? Kinda too old to change much.

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Bond Kills for Queen & Country

Previous Bonds and even novels ones had class. Sure he was capable of doing bad things but he appreciate fine things and was refined.

Craig's Bond is more of thug. They can put him in a penguin suit but he stands out as a tough guy. He walks in to a place and he looks like trouble.

I known Casino Royal he suppose to be Bond before he was Bond. He still seems very rough around the edges in the previews for this movie. Craig is 40 years old can we honestly expect to see more refined Bond by the 3rd outing? Kinda too old to change much.

It looks like QOS picks up about an hour after the end of Casino Royale left off. How much refinement was he supposed to get in that hour? Brosnan wasn't believable as Bond because he looked like my grandmother could beat the #$@P out of him. Moore was great in Live and Let Die, but by the time Moonraker rolled around he looked like he needed a walker. Connery was pretty great all the way around. Still there was something about the fact that Connery could kill like 1,000 guys and be all chipper a second later. Craig is a more believable Bond. Also the less gadgetry the better, my god Bronson's Jag in his last film was so completely unrealistic that it just ruined the film.

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I'll just say this...some of you guys will be very happy and some of you guys will be mildly disappointed. The main thing to keep in mind is that it does pick up right after Casino Royale so there's not going to be much change towards the old familiar movie Bond.

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Maybe I have bad taste but I kinda liked Never Say Never Again.

The corny dated 80's stuff in that movie was just as corny, dated or campy as Moore's stuff. There were a few good parts of the film. The intro training exercise, spa brawl, Largo and his line "Sweet Taste like Money" I quote that line when ever I get the chance.

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I wonder just how many more films Craig/Rat face will want to do if his first three will live up to everyone's expectations.

Bond needs a nemesis, like Moore had Jaws.

What are you, one of those morons from Craignotbond.com? Yes, that's exactly what the new Bond needs; A cartoonish villain with superhuman attributes, whom the producers will turn into a good guy in the following film because freaking children write letters asking them to. Please people, most Bond films from 1969 - 1987 have aged horribly, and shoult NOT be your barometer for comparing any new films. Try watching them again with a modicum of objectivity and you'll see for yourself.

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The reviews seem to say that this film is more a wannabe Jason Bourne film than a Bond flick. I hated the Pierce Brosnan Bond films so I'm not sure if getting more Bourne isn't a good thing. Still, I heard this film is devoid of womanizing and has almost no gadgets which doesn't sound promising.

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The reviews seem to say that this film is more a wannabe Jason Bourne film than a Bond flick. I hated the Pierce Brosnan Bond films so I'm not sure if getting more Bourne isn't a good thing. Still, I heard this film is devoid of womanizing and has almost no gadgets which doesn't sound promising.

It worked pretty well in my opinion. This one wasn't Casino Royale, but it did a fine job without all the gimmicks.

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Quantum of Boredom, is more like it. I don't think I've seen a more BLAH movie since Superman Returns. I mean, here we have a movie where nothing of any significance happens EVER. There's alot of traveling, kung-fu, things breaking and stern faces from M and Bond but that's basically the movie. What? Who? Why? How? This movie failed to get me to care, and trust me, after being blown away by Casino Royale I wanted this movie to work.

Epic Failure. And say what you will about Brosnan, but unlike Quantum of Boredom, I never found myself asking just where the f**k is this going during his movies...

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I dont think the plot was confusing but a lot of Bond's actions were. He did things that were border line retarded. Even his motives were confusing. He felt betrayed by Vesper yet her memory is enough to make him go into some unstoppable rage across the globe. he couldn't avoid getting people killed, people that were integral to his investigation, fellow spies on his side, friends.. but he was really good at saving that one hot piece of ass and even got her revenge fulfilled for her. I suspect that he had more invested in Olga than he ever did in Vesper and for no reason whatsoever...

And HOW did those clumsy mofos from Quantum keep themsleves a secret all that time? I'll tell you how... no one cared. They could have used Get Smart's Cone of Silence and hid their agenda better than that retarded conference over bluetooth. I really like Craig as Bond but these plot lines are kinda inane.

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I really liked it too, and was very glad they didn't use gadgets. In fact I remember most where happy that they didn't go overboard with them in the first one, so why the complaining about it now? A buddy of mine who is a big Bond fan said that in the books Bond didn't use all the silly gadgets that where used in the Majority of the movies anyway. Yes, Bond did get several people who where important to his investigation killed but 2 of them were unavoidable, either them or him, but he DID growin the end. Remember, he is still a new 00 agent, and this movie is a direct continuation of Casino Royal. He showed alot of maturity in the end and they did introduce a new nemisis in the form of this secret organization. Now that the Vesper thing is tied up things can move forward from here. Personally I'd give this one an A.

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I was kinda iffy on this one. No real outstanding scene for me, even the opening title credits were blah (where's the style from Casino Royale? or the hot ladies from the other title scenes?). The first 20 minutes had two scenes the reminded me of Bourne (close-quarters fight in the house and the jumping through roofs and windows chase).

The main detraction was that the plot had the cheesy "global conglomerate" baddy like the Brosnan films and no real big-time threat.

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Just saw it this evening. Really liked it!

However, if you went in expecting "classic Bond" with super cars and laser shooting Omega's you will be sorely disappointed. It has the same flavor of Casino Royale, though much more gritty, dark, non of the super suave super agent womanizer but instead choosing to depict a more realistic Bond. This shouldn't detract people from the character though, Daniel Craig plays this guy like an absolute bada$$... with just more human qualities. I personally like the direction this new reboot is headed.

Only complaint is that the cast of villains was a bit dull.

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That's probably why I like the new bond films now, he doesn't need super special gagets or rocket propeled transforming vehicles that get knocked the crap outta in 3 minutes. It's just nitty gritty Bond when he first started.

I kind of wonder if they'll ever dip back into that sort of area of Bond since Q's untimely death several years ago. I always hoped in Casino Royale he was gonna pop up and go "I need money to help fund my research", bond takes a liking to him and he join up.....*sigh*.

Either case my old man and I being the bond fans we are, are gonna go see it monday morning.

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I dont think the plot was confusing but a lot of Bond's actions were.

EON Prod. really....REALLY need to ditch Purvis & Wade. I don't even know how these two clowns got the job in the first place, since their IMDB bios show virtually nothing before The World Is Not Enough. They must have some serious blackmail material on the Broccolis. Quantum has just enough plot to string you along from one action sequence to the next, and as a second act to Casino Royale I guess that works, but it really won't stand on its own as a film.

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Being a 007 fan for nearly three decades, I have to say that Quantum of Solace is a very good movie. Obviously, nothing will ever beat Casino Royale, but this new film is very entertaining and fast-paced. Unlike the Bond films of the past, there is absolutely nothing fancy about this one. We get a brutal car chase scene that is, IMO, probably the best of its kind since Ronin. Seeing an Aston Martin DBS get mutilated like that will make most people cringe, but throughout the chase, it rightfully serves its purpose unlike the Bond cars of the past that were just for show.

As far as Bond Girls go, Olga Kurylenko is just random. Never mind the fact that she's probably the first Bond Girl to not sleep with Bond at all. Her on-screen chemistry with Bond was almost non-existent. Hell, I was more interested in that hot redhead Gemma Arterton. :wub:

Overall, it's not a perfect Bond film. But let's face it - this new film series is about a James Bond 007 who is still rough on the edges and nowhere near as polished as Sean Connery. And that alone makes Quantum of Solace worth the full ticket price.

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Yes, Bond did get several people who where important to his investigation killed but 2 of them were unavoidable, either them or him, but he DID growin the end.

That my point though. He couldn't avoid killing people that he couldn't or already had sex with...

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Being a 007 fan for nearly three decades, I have to say that Quantum of Solace is a very good movie. Obviously, nothing will ever beat Casino Royale, but this new film is very entertaining and fast-paced. Unlike the Bond films of the past, there is absolutely nothing fancy about this one. We get a brutal car chase scene that is, IMO, probably the best of its kind since Ronin. Seeing an Aston Martin DBS get mutilated like that will make most people cringe, but throughout the chase, it rightfully serves its purpose unlike the Bond cars of the past that were just for show.

As far as Bond Girls go, Olga Kurylenko is just random. Never mind the fact that she's probably the first Bond Girl to not sleep with Bond at all. Her on-screen chemistry with Bond was almost non-existent. Hell, I was more interested in that hot redhead Gemma Arterton. :wub:

Overall, it's not a perfect Bond film. But let's face it - this new film series is about a James Bond 007 who is still rough on the edges and nowhere near as polished as Sean Connery. And that alone makes Quantum of Solace worth the full ticket price.

I agree that it isn't perfect but I thought it was a great follow up to casino royale. And frankly, I don't get people who wonder where the Bond one liners went... the movie is full of them, they're just delivered in a dry sardonic manner rather than the usual tongue in cheek wink at the camera fashion of past movies. And given Solace follows immediately Royale, Bond being in a dark and brooding place made perfect sense.

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Saw it tonight as well and like many of you, thought it was good, but not as good as Casino Royale

but I sure am getting sick of the quick cuts and shaky cam style that friggin Bourne Supremecy started

that shi-ite is getting tired in my opinion, I can't focus on jack squat during the action scenes

it's like the editor took all the footage, cut the film into 24 frame pieces and shot them out of a shotgun like confetti :angry:

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Given all the reviews and my ambivalence about the increasing prevalence of James Bourne, I'll be waiting on the Blu-ray.

feh, it is not james bourne. It is still very much Bond, more serious but it's still the big black and white morality play, still the hot bond girl of the week, still the quippy one liners, still the exotic locations and over the top action sequences, still the high tech gadgets (the more rooted in reality).

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