Macross 25th Anniversary TV Special thread *READ THE 1ST POST*

[Duke Togo]

You know, having this new sub release out... I had no idea how suggestive the lyrics of "Don't Be Late" are. Sheryl, you naughty girl!

[Vic Mancini]

Well, not a Minmay Attack specifically, but I wonder what lasting impact Basara has had on the rest of the Macross universe, etc.

I guess my main point is, is Sheryl here JUST for her tour, or did they also want her there to help in some way in the fight against the enemy?

And of course, Sheryl isn't Basara - but I wonder if her presence is part of their strategy.

I think that's a very safe bet.

#1 When Sheryl arrives at the airport the president personally calls "Misa" and tells her that there will be huge ramifications if anything should happen to Sheryl.

#2 Then when the aliens attack, the president makes a mysterious phone call and indicates that he knew about the presence of the aliens and knew that they would be attacking.

#3 Then after the attack, Sheryl is personally escorted to safety by Misa and the president's body guards.

It seems obvious to me that Sheryl's safety is extremely valuable to the military and government, and not only because she's an intergalactic pop star. They definitely have plans for her.

Edited December 26, 2007 by Vic Mancini

[Duke Togo]

Both the President and Ozma say something to the effect of, "they're here". Watching the new subs, its pretty clear the code "Victor 3" to the SMS was specifically refering to these SM. They knew they were out there. And the SMS is a "private" organization with the latest, state of the art fighters and weaponry... there is much more to this.

Early in the episode, when the Frontier is first introduced, its stated that the Frontier "was continuing its journey toward the center of the galaxy". Makes me wonder what is there, and I suspect, from the reaction of the President and the SMS that perhaps they didn't expect to run into these SM that far out from the galactic core.

[l_e_m]

I don't know how accurate the fan sub is, but I have a few questions concerning the meeting at the Frontier President's office.

I wonder why the President said this: "Is the Army not following orders?"

To me, this seems to imply that the military, presumably UNS, was supposed to clear the way for their manifest destiny but either couldn't or didn't.

Who is the gentleman he is speaking to in the white uniform (I will assume that he is military)? What does everyone think his angle is in the series?

I saw him yet again in the second episode previews.

Edited December 26, 2007 by l_e_m

[Wes]

Just saw it. I'm thankful that there's a subbed Youtube version even as bad as it is out there, as my parents are still in the dial-up age and I can't get a better version until I go home.

I don't get the harsh critisium of Sheryl though. Just one episode we can only tell so much. I know even as much as I fly I'm still amazed at what I can see. I particually like seeing every star in the sky at night. And it wasn't like she could do much for the people either, and it seemed like there were issues that would probably be revealed later as to why her security shouldn't be compromised.

So what's up with Ranka ? That SMS squad leader seems to be a relation of hers, but again bad subs so I can't tell. If she's supposed to be a singer soon too I want dueling banjo/singing-stuff between her and Sheryl.

I think the best part of the show I don't think people touched on was the lighting. It was constantly flawless in my opinion compaired to what you usually see in anime today. Usually they are colored the same in all lights which looks lazy. Whereas people were complaining about changing hair colors I think it was all intentional due to lighting.(hey mine's blond in bright like brown in dark). I noticed the episode was in a twilight-light setting, don't know if that's supposed to be foretelling or it just worked that way but it really stood out for me.

I don't know if the President "expecting" the fighters is really that special. I think they were just thinking that such was to be expected eventually or if someone else ran into them. SMS was called obviously because the regular army wasn't that great. Though yeah they could be in on it too.

[Nexx Stalker]

I tried to catch as many info from the "migration" part of episode 1. Here is what I was able to gather.

Fleets departing from Earth starting from 2012 (note that Megaroads have a different background image than New Macross class fleets and different designations):

(counterclockwise)

- megaroad 01 SDF002 (Super Dimension Fortress)

- megaroad 02 SDF003

- megaroad 04 SDF005

- m-frontier NEW025 (New Macross Class Aircraft Carrier)

- macross 05

- macross 07

- megaroad 13 SDF014

- macross 01

- megaroad 06 SDF007

- macross 03

- megaroad 09 SDF010

Fleets departing from Eden starting from 2013

(in no particular order)

- m-galaxy NEW021

- macross 08

- macross 17

- macross 09

- macross 15

- macross 23

- macross 20

- macross 19?

- macross ??

- macross ??

To sum things up, these are all the fleets departed from either Earth or Eden that we know of:

- megaroad 01 SDF002 (Super Dimension Fortress)

- megaroad 02 SDF003

- megaroad 04 SDF005

- megaroad 06 SDF007

- megaroad 09 SDF010

- megaroad 13 SDF014

- macross 01

- macross 03

- macross 05

- macross 07

- macross 08

- macross 09

- macross 15

- macross 17

- macross 19?

- macross 20

- m-galaxy (macross 21)

- macross 23

- m-frontier (macross 25)

- macross ??

- macross ??

In a brief moment, we can clearly see Megaroad 01 heading slightly towards a bright spot into space: did they steer away from the core or follow M-Frontier (Megaroad 01 is the farthest line on the left)?

Edited December 26, 2007 by Nexx Stalker

[Duke Togo]

Search function is your friend!

From Eden:

Macross 6

Macross 9

Macross 11

Macross 15

Macross 17

Macross 19

Macross 20

Macross 21 (The Galaxy)

Macross 23

Macross 24

[Nexx Stalker]

Search function is your friend!

Oops, had it already been written elsewhere? It seems also Macross 08 left from Eden, or were my eyes deceiving me?

Thanks, anyway

Edited December 26, 2007 by Nexx Stalker

[Duke Togo]

BTW, don't go by anything you read in the bad sub. There is a far surperior one out now, and things are very different. And there is info about the characters and their relationships on MW's Macross F page.

As far as the Macross 8 goes, I'm pretty sure that's a 6 and not an 8, but I'll take another look.

Edited December 26, 2007 by Duke Togo

[Nexx Stalker]

BTW, don't go by anything you read in the bad sub.

I took several screenshots from the "raw" version (I was able to find a 600mb version) and tried to decipher the various names, sometimes enlarging the shots, but it wasn't easy!

[Duke Togo]

Defintely the Macross 6. Was hell finding the right frame, it exits the frame on the right hand side pretty quickly. I'll see if I can grab a screen shot.

Edit: No go with WMP, and VLC doesn't like the HD raw video. But its there. Directly above it is the 7, and above it the 9.

Edited December 26, 2007 by Duke Togo

[deadghost]

Here are some quick and dirty rendition of the NUNS insignia

The one in the VF-171s and in amber on the sim screen, also on a book in the president desk:

This one is on the ships id tags on the sim screen, except for the Frontier Shell 'window', that one doesn't have the central line (which I suspect is not a line but text)

And this is on the uniforms:

Also note that same insignia on her hat badge:

man I am so getting a NUN'S AND SMS tattoo

[Gerli]

My new avatar rocks!!!

[Duke Togo]

Nice!

[EXO]

In case it hasn't been mentioned "nyan nyan" is the code Minmay gave Hikaru so that he'd know it was her on the phone once she was a celebrity..

[Elektrix]

The whole hair thing with Ranka is no accident, it appears like she has " dog ear flaps" under her hair and that she has to hide the fact when in mixed company.

Ahh, I missed that. I was thinking she had some sort of telekinetic control over her hair or something.

[Elektrix]

In case it hasn't been mentioned "nyan nyan" is the code Minmay gave Hikaru so that he'd know it was her on the phone once she was a celebrity..

Wasn't it also the name of the Chinese restaurant Minmei worked at?

[Duke Togo]

Ahh, I missed that. I was thinking she had some sort of telekinetic control over her hair or something.

Screenshot of the flaps, or it didn't happen.

[Duke Togo]

Wasn't it also the name of the Chinese restaurant Minmei worked at?

Yes! Or was it her folks' place?

[Necron_99]

My new avatar rocks!!!

yes it does

[Duke Togo]

I don't see any flaps...

[Razor x]

ok some one made a cool NUNS logo can some one make an SMS one please!!!!

[Elektrix]

I don't see any flaps...

I'm not sure I see the flaps there in those screenshots - although I guess I see what you mean if you're saying that they are completely covered by her hair.

Strictly speaking, it wouldn't make much sense for her to have dog ear flaps in addition to regular human ears though.

I still think somehow she has some sort of telekinetic control over her hair (or more things perhaps).

[Duke Togo]

With what we've seen in Macross recently, that's totally possible, but right now I am going on the assumption that she's just a kawaii anime girl.

[Elektrix]

With what we've seen in Macross recently, that's totally possible, but right now I am going on the assumption that she's just a kawaii anime girl.

Yeah - normally that would actually be my instinct in seeing that bit with her "hair" perking up like a big dog ear - that it was more of an animation joke, as opposed to something that should be taken as a literal ability.

I guess the only reason I don't is that there isn't anything else particularly in Episode 1 of Macross F that hints at those kind of comedy anime animation jokes.

[Duke Togo]

Well, I mean, just look at her cell phone!

[scottrossi]

Well, I mean, just look at her cell phone!

i love her phone so much, lol. i wish i could get one. that would be the best. squishy frog blob that doubles as a cell phone. that is made of win.

[Elektrix]

i love her phone so much, lol. i wish i could get one. that would be the best. squishy frog blob that doubles as a cell phone. that is made of win.

Agreed. It's totally bizarre but I'd love one...

Or maybe a squishy frog mp3 player.

[Duke Togo]

BTW, I do believe it was Graham who said the purple VF-25 in the trailer was probably just a placeholder. He proved to be right, those same scenes in the first episode featured the armored "Skull 001".

[Gerli]

Agreed. It's totally bizarre but I'd love one...

Or maybe a squishy frog mp3 player.

A cleannig mecha is fine too...

[nanashino]

New Macross class ships use the designator NCV not NEW. The hull number for the M-Frontier is NCV-025 and the M-Galaxy's is NCV-021. Please see attached screen capture beow:

www.macrossmecha.info

- m-frontier NEW025 (New Macross Class Aircraft Carrier)

- m-galaxy NEW021

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[charger69]

Hey Duke,

Which one is this superior sub??

How did you get this one...

Friendly mod warning: No requests, no posts to links. Take it to PM's. Got a link? Send it to a mod, don't post here.

[The_WOZ]

Here are some quick and dirty rendition of the NUNS insignia

The one in the VF-171s and in amber on the sim screen, also on a book in the president desk:

This one is on the ships id tags on the sim screen, except for the Frontier Shell 'window', that one doesn't have the central line (which I suspect is not a line but text)

And this is on the uniforms:

Also note that same insignia on her hat badge:

Forgot to mention that the 1st and 3rd type of insignia es very similar to the Anti-UN insignia in SDF Macross

Also some mentioned that the AA barrage from the fleet have no effect, but if you watch closelly, it takes down two of the "blue tailed" bugs.

[mike_s_6]

Me too. He was angry before he met the chick. I wonder why.

I think it's because his mates were obsessing over her, and not taking their routine seriously. If you were so determined to be a pilot and you get delegated to do that kind of job, it could be a bit frustrating.

[mike_s_6]

With what we've seen in Macross recently, that's totally possible, but right now I am going on the assumption that she's just a kawaii anime girl.

My vote goes to this one

Maybe the future of cellphones are anti-sleek. Therefore, we get squeezable blobs that look like mousepad wrist supports. I'd love to have one too.