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I can not think of a single example where a live action adaptation of an anime has been better than the original.

Graham

Well, I keep reading and hearing that the live-action version of Great Teacher Onizuka's the best version of GTO, compared to the manga and the anime. But I haven't gotten a copy of it, yet, so I can't verify.

Oh, yeah. There's also that Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon stuff. Kawaii japanese cast. ^_^

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Well, I keep reading and hearing that the live-action version of Great Teacher Onizuka's the best version of GTO, compared to the manga and the anime. But I haven't gotten a copy of it, yet, so I can't verify.

GTO isn't bad... although I think instead of calling it a "live-action version", try to think of it as just another Japanese soap opera/drama, and it'll come across better. Live-action makes me think of people in rubber/plastic suits/armour.... The casting was VERY well done. The manga was funnier... but then again, some scenes you just can't transfer to screen :-p

A lot of manga/anime have actually been converted into Japanese soap opera/drama series with quite impressive results. Can't think of any off the top of my head, since I don't have my collection with me...

how was the live-action version of Guyver? I liked the manga, but never got the guts to pick up the anime or the live-action films...

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I'd like to see You're Under Arrest as a live... wait been done. I know Burn Up W/Excess :p or for the heck of it Devil Hunter Yohko.

Personally I'd like to see Hellsing done live-action or Ranma 1/2 (Just keep Ranma a girl)

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What is with this constant desire of some fans to want to make live action versions of anime? I just don't get it.

Is anime not good enough or something? Do you honestly feel that anime would be better if it was turned into live action? If that's the case, why bother with watching anime at all, just stick to watching Hollywood movies! :angry:

I have absolutely no interest in seeing live action versions of any anime. IMO, there are far more high quality animes being made every year in Japan than there are good movies or TV series coming out of the US.

I can not think of a single example where a live action adaptation of an anime has been better than the original.

Graham

This was just a fun question to throw out; no need to get so serious about it. The way Hollywood "mines" ideas from comics, anime, TV and such, I can see why there is an immediate backlash when the idea of transaltion to movie is brought up.

Of course anime is good enough; it is a medium, along with animation of every kind, that can bring things to a story that movies can't, in some cases. Do I feel anime would be better if it was turned into live-action?? Of course not...they are 2 DIFFERENT MEDIUMS. I have never heard anyone ever say a Harry Potter book was better because they made a movie out of it. Movies, in the most positive aspect, actually get more people to find out about the source material.

I do not consider one medium to be better than the other; that was not a factor of this question. It is a question about how something would translate. Unless there is some true talent and understanding lined up for such a translation, I think anime should be left alone, and not "mined" by lesser talent waiting to cash in. In the end, the anime source from where a movie came from stands on its own, and it's quality cannot be changed by Hollywood, no matter how good or bad the translation is.

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Going back on topic...

Golgo 13

There was already a live-action version titled Golgo 13: The Kowloon Conspiracy starring Sonny Chiba. I did, however, had this idea of a live-action adaptation starring Steven Seagal as Duke Togo and Jack Palance as Leonard Dawson.

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WOW! dude no one has seen that. I am shocked and amazed that ANYONE knew about Golgo 13: The Kowloon Assignment, Sonny Chiba was unreal in it. He is the only reason I went to see Kill Bill.

I would want to make a much more updated version if G13... Steven Seagal would make a good Duke Togo I guess, however if I were casting a movie like that I would want an actor that I could cast in 10 more so I would want a super young guy. Seagal is old.

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What is with this constant desire of some fans to want to make live action versions of anime? I just don't get it.

Is anime not good enough or something? Do you honestly feel that anime would be better if it was turned into live action? If that's the case, why bother with watching anime at all, just stick to watching Hollywood movies! :angry:

I have absolutely no interest in seeing live action versions of any anime. IMO, there are far more high quality animes being made every year in Japan than there are good movies or TV series coming out of the US.

I can not think of a single example where a live action adaptation of an anime has been better than the original.

Graham

Well, the easiest answer is because it hasn't been done well yet... doesn't mean that its impossible, or even an unnattainable goal.

Why live action? Isn't anime good enough? Sure it is. That doesn't mean that seeing something presented in another format is derrogatory to the source material. Case in point - why do most anime series have manga as well? Is one generally superior to the other? Most often times, they are simply different and enjoyable in different ways.

The advantages to doing live action are obvious. Acting - not just voice acting, is a different art entirely and it would be good to see it done well. The other benefit would be seeing mecha in 3D CGI done well, if such a thing is possible.

I used to see this all the time with comic fans. I simply disagree - I don't think that making a different version of source material in a different format is something that dissrespects or downgrades the original. It is simply an artistic experiment.

I love the book Silence of the Lambs. I also love the movie. Is that a bad thing? Nope.

I love the book Cider House Rules - I'm not a fan of the film. Big deal.

A good film is a good film regardless of the source material - just as a good anime is a good anime regardless. You can make a good Batman movie or you can make a piece of crap - it's been done. Why dismiss it outright?

Personally, I don't think that's a bad thing at all.

My choice for a live action anime would definitely be Neon Genesis Evangelion. I think in the hands of the right people it could be an exceptionally powerful film with alot of layers. That being said, who knows whether or not the one currently being attempted will be unwatchable? But it won't make me hate or disrespect the anime I already love.

The fact that movie studios would consider putting up the bucks to attempt to translate anime to a live-action format is proof enough that the artists and creators of anime have made a significant impact on American entertainment - enough so that people are simply trying to find new ways to reach an even broader audience with it.

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I'd make Robotech... then I'd have A7 as my casting director... YEAH... Tera as Minmay... I can see it now...

Well, if you insist...

The Macross Saga

Rick Hunter - Peter North

Lisa Hayes - Tera Patrick

Lynn Minmay - Jun Kusanagi

Roy Fokker - Rocco Siffredi

Captain Gloval - Ron Jeremy

Claudia - Midori

Miriya - Aria Giovanni

Azonia - Jewel De Nyle

Kim - Sylvia Saint

Sammy - Violet Blue

Vanessa - Raylene

The Robotech Masters

Dana Sterling - Jenna Jameson

Bowie Grant - Sean Michaels

Marie Crystal - Asia Carrera

Nova Satori - Lexus Locklear

Musica - Jasmin St. Claire

The New Generation

Rook Bartley - Briana Banks

Annie LaBelle - Nikki Dial

Marlene - Nici Sterling

Sera - Jill Kelly

Robotech II: The Sentinels

Karen Penn - Devon

Janice Em - Stephanie Swift

Invid Regis - Marilyn Chambers

Special thanks to Noriko Takaya for the Sentinels suggestions.

Oh, c'mon, A7, you're not even trying. :lol: Peter North as Rick? Dude, that's all sorts of wrong. But it would be funny to see Ron Jeremy as Gloval.

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I guess I have the same problem about making movies out animes that I do when it comes to remakes. Why remake a movie if the original was already good. If they're gonna make a movie from an anime choose one that wasn't that great and make it better.

I guess they're just trying to exploit the fan base.

When it comes to Macross I would accept a documentary type live action film. Sort of like the kind of stuff you see on the History channel. A fake documentary on Valkyrie development and film stock footage of fake dogfights. Or maybe a mock-exploratory film about the first time they went into the ASS-1 ( :rolleyes: )... Like James Cameron did for the Titanic...

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I choose none. Most anime are just fine the way they are and don't need to be live action. I not even going to read this thread as I'm sure somebody has already made this very same point.

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No anime should be live action, NONE!

However, I'd love to see Star Wars done this way:

-Episode IV: A New Hope - Leji Matusmoto (He could best display the wonder, mystery, & hardships of a young mans new journey)

-Episode V: Empire Strikes Back - Tomino (He could best display the crap hitting the fan aspects).

-Episode VI: Return Of The Jedi - Shoji Kawamori (Climactic ending space battle, culmination of a love story, & a conclusive yet open ending).

As for the first 3 films, probably a similar split, if not done by other anime directors.

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No anime should be live action, NONE!

I wouldn't totally agree to that. Really off base sci-fi action type anime like Eva should never be done. However, more normal grounded-in reality types could be fair game. Something like Grave of the Fireflies could totally be pulled off.

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Considering a big name like Spielberg or Brukheimer(sp?) would be making it, it would probably be cool.

My choices:

Lupin III - Jim Carey as Lupin easy to do as a comedy/adventure

Gunsmith Cats - just a normal detective movie.

Macross DYRL - just a live version & a scrolling text to tell what happended before or another movie as a prequel.

Gundam - make a new AU so you don't have to worry about anime backstories

Ramna would be funny but audiences probably wouldn't go for it. Still have the karate but tone down the extreeme jumping stuff.

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or Ranma 1/2 (Just keep Ranma a girl)

Defeats the whole propose of the story and it too similar to what Trish Tredoux(sp) tried to do with the series when marketing the idea to the networks.

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What about Pokemon? WIth cute little furry muppet pokemons? ;) Only kidding. I always hated that show.

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The two Guyver movies were... engh, for lack of a better term.

The first movie is camp, pure and simple. About halfway through it gives up on any pretensions of being a serious movie and shoots straight for the camp. A rapping Zoanoid is an image that takes a while to work out of your brain...

The second movie is MUCH better. By far. It would be a fantastic film if it was a half hour shorter (right now it's at 127 minutes or so) and if the fight scenes weren't so few and far in between. However, the fight scenes that you do get are nothing short of fantastic. Especially the showdown at the end.

The animated series isn't bad, either. It's dubbing isn't that bad, and it stays pretty accurate to the Manga. Unfortunatly, only 12 half-hour episodes were produced and it leaves the plot seriously hanging. The animation during the first 6 episodes (Act I) is nothing less than stellar for a show as old as it. Act II (episodes 7-12) drop the ball in a serious way, looking like they were animated by Anime Friend.

For a final reccomendation, I'd suggest watching all of the above, if only to complete the Guyver experience. Just don't go in expecting masterpieces, by any stretch of the imagination.

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There is only one anime that I think could translate well into a live action movie. And thats Grave of the Fireflies. Jin Roh and the Kenshin OVA's are also possible, but really as Graham said, whats the point? They are fine as they are. Now Hollywood vs Japanese anime. I think both groups produce an equal ammount of bad stuff, with several gems shining through each year. To call either infallable of making crap, or to say each side only make good stuff is a gross mis-statement.

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There is only one anime that I think could translate well into a live action movie. And thats Grave of the Fireflies. Jin Roh and the Kenshin OVA's are also possible, but really as Graham said, whats the point? They are fine as they are. Now Hollywood vs Japanese anime. I think both groups produce an equal ammount of bad stuff, with several gems shining through each year. To call either infallable of making crap, or to say each side only make good stuff is a gross mis-statement.

hollywood would ruin Grave of the Fireflies. i don't think any studio is brave enough to kill both the children in the end.

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There is only one anime that I think could translate well into a live action movie. And thats Grave of the Fireflies. Jin Roh and the Kenshin OVA's are also possible, but really as Graham said, whats the point? They are fine as they are. Now Hollywood vs Japanese anime. I think both groups produce an equal ammount of bad stuff, with several gems shining through each year. To call either infallable of making crap, or to say each side only make good stuff is a gross mis-statement.

hollywood would ruin Grave of the Fireflies. i don't think any studio is brave enough to kill both the children in the end.

I didn't say Hollywood should make it, I was just thinking which would lose the least in translation from ink to reality, and Grave of the fireflies, Kenshin OVA trust and betrayal, and Jinroh, qualify. To a degree I almost forgot I was watching anime as I watched these. However they are great movies as they are. Why bother? The fact that they are animated makes them no less legitimate as quality cinema, I wish people would realize this. Do we see people asking, well what if we made 'Citizen kane' an anime, or star wars an anime (whoops thats been kinda done with that manga and it sucked <_<.) Can't we be happy with the two different mediums apart without having to mix them bringing about unholy POS's? Its like taking classic liturature and dumbing it down for a movie. Generally unless in the hands of a master it doesn't work and even in the hands of a master it will never stand up to the source. Same goes for video games. Is it really as much fun watching the action as it is interacting with it? Not really. Though I would love to see a live action movie with some decent mecha action in it. Save for terminator (do Terminators and HK's count?) I have never seen a decent live action mecha movie. I just know the battletech movie they are making will suck. but I still am going to see it and hope.......

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Who thinks the Nausicaa manga is great?

Who thinks the Nausicaa anime is great?

Now imagine a Nausicaa movie with LOTR production value. :blink:

What I'm trying to say is that the existing products hold up to their own.

What makes you think a live-action movie couldn't be any different?

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for my two...I'd do Cowboy Bebop and DYRL?, once we got the Valk thing done right in CG that movie would be great!

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It's not an anime, but i would like to see Lone Wolf and Cub made into either an anime or live-action film/mini-series. i know it was done in Japan in the early 70s, but i'd like to see it done with a modern budget.

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I'd rather see live action turned into anime

but then we get all those non-asian companies who think they can make anime

not to mention use horrid and cheap CGI

and end up with something even wordse than the powder puffed girls

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Why would you want to make an anime into a live action unless it is a porno like La Blue Girl. :blink: La Blue Girl is screwed up anyways. Thank you lord I stopped on Epsiode 1.

Why should you turn an anime into a live action movie? I mean looking at sailor moon, who sees an asian chick in that blonde hair?!?! :huh: WTF? No , just leave it be. Anime as anime. Movies as Movies. God, this is like making the comics into movies and worse, video games into movies... :rolleyes:

BTW, A7, I think Kobe Tai would be a better Minmay. :p

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