FB2012 VF-4 -vs- VFX VF-4G

[Valkyrie addict]

Hello...I was watching the differences between the VF-4 in Flashback and the macross design book and the much later differences in the VF-4G in VFX...

I was just wondering, in the Macross universe...is there any explanation for the differences?? why is it 'G' and Lighting 'III'??

I know that's it's most likely due to Kawamori revesiting an old old design he didn't intend to developed

I supposed the VF-4 in FB2012 was also being tested by Hikaru and perhaps the final design is the later in VFX?? what are your ideas on this guys?

[mikeszekely]

The original Lightning was the P-38 Lightning, an American WWII Fighter.

Lightning II was a working name for the F-22, before they settled on Raptor. So, at the time, the VF-4 would have been the third plane to use the name.

As for the differences, the VF-4G has upgraded engines. I think I saw some lineart a few years back of a different head unit, but I'm not sure where it came from or if its canon. The one Hikaru was flying wasn't necessarily a test plane; the VF-4's mass production began in February of 2012, and the Megaroad didn't launch until September or October, if I remember right. Rather, the VF-4's production ended in 2022 and it was officially replaced by the VF-11 in 2030. A variant with newer engines is the only reason why anyone would use one in 2047, when the first VF-X game took place.

Edited October 12, 2007 by mikeszekely

[Sumdumgai]

The VF-4G, as mikeszekely said, is an updated version of the VF-4, much like the VF-1X in use during 2047.

Kawamori didn't finish the VF-4 design for battroid until Macross Digital Mission VFX (VFX2 is so much better, it's not only playable, it's fun!).

[Zinjo]

The original Lightning was the P-38 Lightning, an American WWII Fighter.

Lightning II was a working name for the F-22, before they settled on Raptor. So, at the time, the VF-4 would have been the third plane to use the name.

The F-35 was officially named the Lightning II in July of this year.

[mikeszekely]

The F-35 was officially named the Lightning II in July of this year.

Well there you go. It all worked out anyway.

[Zinjo]

The VF-4G, as mikeszekely said, is an updated version of the VF-4, much like the VF-1X in use during 2047.

Kawamori didn't finish the VF-4 design for battroid until Macross Digital Mission VFX (VFX2 is so much better, it's not only playable, it's fun!).

IIRC, Kawamori never planned to do a battroid version of the VF-4 initially (he just designed a "cool" looking fighter for the Angel Paints animation in FB2012), but when he got back involved with the Macross franchise in the 90's , he then created one as Sumdumgai said.

[azrael]

IIRC, Kawamori never planned to do a battroid version of the VF-4 initially (he just designed a "cool" looking fighter for the Angel Paints animation in FB2012), but when he got back involved with the Macross franchise in the 90's , he then created one as Sumdumgai said.

http://macross.anime.net/fallacies/index.html

Fallacy: "The VF-X-4 and VF-4 are non-transformable." "The VF-4 is tranformable, but only now as a retcon."

Explanation: Although those fighters' GERWALK mode and Battroid modes were not protrayed when first shown, mecha designer Shoji Kawamori has specifically described both the VF-X-4 and VF-4 as transformable variable fighters since the begining when they were drawn (1983 and 1987 respectively). Their stated ability to transform is not a recent retcon.

Translation: Kawamori will get to it when he gets to it.