VF11B

[port]

What scale was that 11 that Yamy made? Thanks. Dave.

[vermillion01]

the orginal Yamato Macross plus line was all 1/72 scale.

[Sumdumgai]

It was officially 1/72, but in reality it was a bit off. I forgot what it was more sized to. I'm sure someone else with a better memory can chime in.

[warpaint22]

Wasn't it close to 1/60 scale even though it was said to be 1/72, can remember it was brought up in one of the yamato threads. Think it was the anniversary 1S and 19 tread but not sure.

Edited September 21, 2007 by warpaint22

[vermillion01]

Yeah the actual size eludes me, but they were advertised and marketed at 1/72. I think like 1/65 is more realistic.

[Valk009]

The original Mac Plus Yammie line was supposedly to be 1/72 scale. But since the toy was hand sculpted without the aid of cad (correct me if I am wrong) the scaling could be a little bit off.

Furthermore, Yammie might thought that the smaller VF-11 would look odd when packaged and placed together with the YF-19 and YF-21, so they decided to make all three valks roughly the same size

[David Hingtgen]

The VF-11 ending up being 1/64, 1/65, right around there. It was enlarged from 1/72 due to fragility.

[VFTF1]

Bleh - those toys were really ugly when compared with the current crop.

The only things I appreciate are the 1/60 VFs with their attempt at perfect transformation look - so they do look good (still like my Elintseeker to date)... but in general the 1/72 Plus jets were just yucky.... particularly the yf19... bleh....

VFTF1

[vermillion01]

This aint no fashion show!!! Just a question of size...

[TheLoneWolf]

The VF-11 ending up being 1/64, 1/65, right around there. It was enlarged from 1/72 due to fragility.

Really? Yamato's VF-11B looks like a shrimp compared to Bandai's 1/65 Fire Valkyrie.

[vermillion01]

and it should... kinda. The VF-11B is smaller than the VF-19, I think the comparison would be like the VF-0 to the VF-1 (both in 1/60) it should be a bit smaller. Remeber the "19" is a next gen fighter and was bigger to accomodate the new technologies and advanced avionics.

[TheLoneWolf]

and it should... kinda. The VF-11B is smaller than the VF-19, I think the comparison would be like the VF-0 to the VF-1 (both in 1/60) it should be a bit smaller. Remeber the "19" is a next gen fighter and was bigger to accomodate the new technologies and advanced avionics.

The reason I was surprised is that in the animation it makes the VF11B look like it's around the same size. In M+ Isamu's VF-11B doesn't look that much smaller than Guld's YF-21 (which is as large as a VF-19) in episode 1. And in M7 none of the VF-11C's look significantly smaller than Basara's Fire Valkyrie. Although since it is TV animation I'm not going to give it much credit, but I would like to think that the M+ OAV would get the sizes right.

[vermillion01]

Good point... I was always of the believe that the 19 and 21 were the largest valks (with the VF-0) due to their advanced nature... hmmm time to check the compendium or M3.

[TheLoneWolf]

Good point, just checked and the VF-19 Kai is approximately 2.5 meters taller than the 11B

Edited September 21, 2007 by TheLoneWolf

[vermillion01]

According to specs..

VF-11 -

Wingspan: 11.2 meters

Overall length: 15.51 meters

Overall height: 3.49 meters

YF-19 -

Wingspan: 14.87 meters

Overall length: 18.62 meters

Overall height: 3.94 meters

YF-21 -

Wingspan: 15.36 meters

Overall length: 19.62 meters

Overall height: 4.04 meters

so says M3.

[eugimon]

The VF-11 ending up being 1/64, 1/65, right around there. It was enlarged from 1/72 due to fragility.

the 1/72 VF-11 is actually a .5 inches LARGER in toy mode than it would be had it been in 1/60 scale.

[ghostryder]

So if Yamato stays close to 1/60 scale on their upcoming VF-11B, is this what we can expect?

(Squidd's pic)

Edited September 21, 2007 by ghostryder

[eugimon]

I doubt it, like the "1/72" I'm sure yamato will just make it in the same size range as other 1/60 valks and even though it's actually 1/50 or somthing, they'll just call it "1/60"

[port]

That 11 doesn't look like a 65th scale. But thanks for the info. Dave.

[David Hingtgen]

It's hard to give an exact scale when it's not accurate in any dimension to any established figure (since the line art doesn't agree with itself, nor the animation), but I recall 1/64 or so being said by Graham way back at Alt.Fan.Macross, IIRC.

Of all things, overall length is probably the worst thing to go by to compare scales of toys to the lineart/established numbers. The noses are almost always shortened on the toys, while everything else maintains size. Generally/roughly.

[Chet]

and it should... kinda. The VF-11B is smaller than the VF-19, I think the comparison would be like the VF-0 to the VF-1 (both in 1/60) it should be a bit smaller. Remeber the "19" is a next gen fighter and was bigger to accomodate the new technologies and advanced avionics.

If that's so, then when Yamato comes around to finally making a new VF-11B...

...it will be in 1/48 scale. (runs)

[vermillion01]

If that's so, then when Yamato comes around to finally making a new VF-11B...

...it will be in 1/48 scale. (runs)

I wish! nah Yamato are infamous for doing their own version of scaling.. it will (if it ever materialises) most likely be a 1/60 that will not be quite right next to a YF-19 or YF-21, but we can always hope they dont screw up the scales

[TheLoneWolf]

Here's a pic of Jarrod's 1/100 models, the VF-11B is noticably smaller than than the VF-19S. That's what I get for relying on the animation