Twoducks Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 GG....now look what you've done. (refer to warpaint22's post) And this is just the beginning BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Someone was asking for a Rick Maguire? Found this (sorry, no hair showing but the huge helmet can give you an idea).
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 (edited) Even though they can't use the designs from macross I still would prefer they have a movie set during macross saga. The movie doesn't have to follow robotech the cartoon and just retell the story from hollywood's perspective. Just as TF isn't trying to be G1. (starscream's f-15 form is out of date anyway) So similarly, make a new macross, new "very-tech", but take it seriously. Change the cheesy stuff from the toon and ground it in realism. (no people jumping out of the plane as it is diving to the ground to rescue a fallling person) HG don't have to rip off existing anime shows anymore, so I don't see the problem macross fans have with them getting successful? In fact if they manage to get to the third war with the invid done in CG, and then get some decent alpha and beta fighters on toy shelves, I bet you would all be the first in line to buy these up. (provided they had the quality to actually withstand a bit of punishment - get a different toy company to do the alpha, beta and cyclone instead of toynami. *laughs at the lack of will power of the macross purists who have helped make HG stronger from buying the toynami alphas even though they can't stand RT*) Edited September 9, 2007 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker
BeterHans Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 no ............ i want my TOMCATs back....... or a SU looking VF????? :ph34r:
the white drew carey Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 I hate to say it, because Tobey Maguire isn't a bad guy, but I started thinking a bit about big budget vanity projects based on obscure source material, and Battlefield Earth came to mind. Ugh...
Roy Focker Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Okay I think we all owe Tobey an apology. Don't you get it? Tobey had to have posted here years ago under another name. He started a "Cast a Live action Macross topic." You made a few cracks and us mods said, we don't do these sort of topics here. Upset at us Tobey went to get the rights for a live Action Robotech movie out of spite. Now look at us. Here are talking all about the possiblity of a Robotech Movie. Tobey is having his revenge.
EXO Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Okay I think we all owe Tobey an apology. Don't you get it? Tobey had to have posted here years ago under another name. He started a "Cast a Live action Macross topic." You made a few cracks and us mods said, we don't do these sort of topics here. Upset at us Tobey went to get the rights for a live Action Robotech movie out of spite. Now look at us. Here are talking all about the possiblity of a Robotech Movie. Tobey is having his revenge. sorry tobey. (noob)
ruskiiVFaussie Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 And this is just the beginning BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Someone was asking for a Rick Maguire? Found this (sorry, no hair showing but the huge helmet can give you an idea). Urrrrhhk, i'm not liking tobey as Rick.... he atleast needs the hair right.
bankrupt Posted September 9, 2007 Posted September 9, 2007 Apparently I'm a little slow as I just heard about this today. My thoughts say "yuck ". The Hollywood track record for bringing animation "live" is enough to give me a big pause. Then add thoughts of what they would have to snip out of the story to make what will probably only be an hour and a half movie. I guess it has potential for some good mech porn considering how CGI is these days, but that will probably eat 90% of their budget. Leaving 10% for a swiss cheesy plot. I think I would much rather see no attempt made at a live action Robotech than a bad one.
warpaint22 Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Okay I think we all owe Tobey an apology. Don't you get it? Tobey had to have posted here years ago under another name. He started a "Cast a Live action Macross topic." You made a few cracks and us mods said, we don't do these sort of topics here. Upset at us Tobey went to get the rights for a live Action Robotech movie out of spite. Now look at us. Here are talking all about the possiblity of a Robotech Movie. Tobey is having his revenge. Well that says it all. If thats the case then revenge for him will be sweet, he's proberbly reading what we say all the time thinking, "well it could have been macross, you shot me down so suffer in your jocks".
DestroidDefender Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Actually I kind of feel sorry for Tobey because he has to be a fanboy to be interested in Robotech (one of us! one of us!) Most fans have got to agreed the best part of Robotech was Macross. He's done all the legwork and investing time and money to start production on a Robotech movie. Now he discovers the shitstorm that is the Macross international licensing agreement. It's hard to believe the producers would bother licensing the Robotech intellectual property without clear license to include Macross. "Inconceivable!" as Vizzini the Sicilian would say.
CF18 Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Just some fanboy dream like that Eva live action movie. No one is going to invest big bucks in it. Probably end up in a stright to DVD 'TV movie' with crappy 3D.
reddsun1 Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 (edited) Honestly, if you want to know what Robotech [or Macross for that matter] would look like on screen as live-action, then you need look no further--unfortunately--than Independence Day. I HATED Independence Day. Independence Day sucked donkey's balls. To this day, I still wanna throw up a little in my mouth when I think of watching that crap-tastic fecal stain of a flick, an utter disappointment, considering all the pre-release hype it got. But I'm still convinced that at least some of the production/effects crew that worked on ID4 were fans of Robotech and/or Macross, though. There are some elements in that movie that seem a bit too similar to be coincidence. Take for instance: 1. Opening battle, ID4 / opening battle, DYRL: the F-18 pilots initiate by firing a huge volley of missles at the alien ships, and everyone anxiously waits/watches them converge on their monitor screens as the missles speed to their targets, much the same way Hikaru, Max & co. do when they loose their opening salvo at the incoming battlepods. 2. Situation room, ID4 / Control room, Macross ep. 1: When the president and his attending generals are in the situation room in ID4 watching the progress of the initial battle, they're all standing around a status board, with icons representing ea. plane in the attacking sqn. As they listened to radio chatter from the battle, the icons would go out for each plane/pilot lost in the battle. IIRC, "Capt. Gloval" and the bridge crew also listened to the pilots' transmissions during the Alien attack on Ataria Island, and they too observed a status board with icons for each plane, that would go out when they were lost. The pacing of the battle in ID4 was somewhat like an ep. of Robotech too, with wide-angle shots showing a frenzy of planes and alien craft zig-zagging across screen, with missile trails and orange fireball explosions going off all over in the backgound. I couldn't get screencaps, but I found something that seemed a bit uncanny. They're from the opening animation for the Saturn/PSX "Do You Remember Love" game, and from ID4. Notice the shot of Ataria Island, when Skull Sqn to take on the Zentraedi [at about 1:48s in the 1st clip]: Sorry, this 2nd clip is that "Macross Live Action trailer" that floated around the net a while ago, but the shot in question is from ID4. Notice the shot of the mountain range in the b'ground behind the fleet of fighter planes, as they wing their way towards their final battle with the aliens [at about 0:28s in this clip]: Coincidence? You be the judge. OMFG, I just realized: I must sound like one of those hopeless conspiracy-theory-losers on pub-access, endlessly ranting and juxtaposing on all the movie trailers. Edited September 10, 2007 by reddsun1
kamikaze_kamujin Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 In this night episode of Space Station Liberty, when asked about the Macross rights issue, Kevin Mc Keever said several times they have all rights to Robotech and in they can do whatever they want in the live action movie.
mikeszekely Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 I bet you would all be the first in line to buy these up. (provided they had the quality to actually withstand a bit of punishment - get a different toy company to do the alpha, beta and cyclone instead of toynami. *laughs at the lack of will power of the macross purists who have helped make HG stronger from buying the toynami alphas even though they can't stand RT*) Don't look at me. I'm one Macross purist who hasn't bought anything with the Robotech label on it since that coloring book I had when I was a little kid.
Zinjo Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 IGN did their version of casting the movie I'm agreed with Clive Owen as Breetai, like I had, but some of their other picks are kinda weird. Amanda Bynes as Minmei? IGN Robotech Cast Nah, Clancy Brown as Vritai! Much better choice and he has the voice for it too!
Zinjo Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 If this plane gets out of the hangar I'll be shocked. Lots of projects get greenlit for development... only a handful ever make it past that stage. Anyone remember all the press releases and stories in fan magazines about the WB and the Watchmen movie development back in the mid nineties that had Joel Silver to helm it with his pick of Arnold Schwarzenegger for Dr. Manhattan? That got really far. You are aware that "Watchmen" is being filmed as we type, right?
Keith Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 In this night episode of Space Station Liberty, when asked about the Macross rights issue, Kevin Mc Keever said several times they have all rights to Robotech and in they can do whatever they want in the live action movie. Exactly. Whatever they want, without using a Macross design
Zinjo Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 I think that what most are forgetting is that WB may not be willing to deal with the legal issues surrounding Macross and opt to base it on Mospdeada. Joe Sixpack, won't care what the first transforming fighters looked like, he's in it to see giant robots kick the hell out of each other like in Transformers and Macross doesn't have that. Macross has transforming fighters that kick the hell out of giant chicken legged pods! Then there is the reality that the movie may not resemble the original animation of any of the RT series'. This will be an "adaptation" and with that Hollywood has no obligations to use anything beyond the name Robotech! They could abandon all the stories and characters and do an expensive crap job with the property, essentially turning the RT franchise name into mud in the minds of the general public. They will no doubt re-design most if not all the equipment and wardrobe for the movie, whether it is based on an REF story, Mospeada, Shadow Chronicles or Macross (which I find doubtful). How many crap scifi films followed Star Wars in the 70's and 80's? So long as they stay away from Macross, I don't care what they put up on the screen. The film's FX budget is going to be a fortune as it is, I can't see WB being willing to spend even more on securing the intellectual rights from Studio Nue and Big West as well... HG only owns their share of the animation of SDFM and the trademark for the the name "Macross" (as of 2003), that's it. That is also the reason why they can't release DYRL in any way shape or form... Proof of this is that in the new HG production, all references and graphics from Macross are absent, yet the latest production from Studio Nue and BigWest has everything Macross in it.
Keith Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Hell, HG is so scared of using Macross footage, they didn't include any in the making of SC feature, just brief mentions with Mospeada footage going over it
Apollo Leader Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 In this night episode of Space Station Liberty, when asked about the Macross rights issue, Kevin Mc Keever said several times they have all rights to Robotech and in they can do whatever they want in the live action movie. As the guy who was the one to ask those questions, I think you're grossly misstating Kevin's answers. The thing is the movie is so early in its life, it is not known yet if its going to be a direct live action retelling of any of the three parts of Robotech, something in the vein of the Transformers live action movie (taking familiar things from the past cartoon - character names and personalities, Peter Cullen as Optimus, etc. - but making it brand new when it comes to plot, mechanical designs, etc.), or something all together new. As for how Macross may come into play, if something that they want to do or use comes from Macross (ie. mechanical designs like the VF-1 Valkyrie) and if there is anything that is legally in question somewhere during the scrpt writing process or in production, they will adjust accordingly. Add to it that there's no telling what may transpire with the Big West/Tatsunoko case in the upcoming months, again it's way too early to give a specific answer or details.
Zinjo Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 As the guy who was the one to ask those questions, I think you're grossly misstating Kevin's answers. The thing is the movie is so early in its life, it is not known yet if its going to be a direct live action retelling of any of the three parts of Robotech, something in the vein of the Transformers live action movie (taking familiar things from the past cartoon - character names and personalities, Peter Cullen as Optimus, etc. - but making it brand new when it comes to plot, mechanical designs, etc.), or something all together new. As for how Macross may come into play, if something that they want to do or use comes from Macross (ie. mechanical designs like the VF-1 Valkyrie) and if there is anything that is legally in question somewhere during the scrpt writing process or in production, they will adjust accordingly. Add to it that there's no telling what may transpire with the Big West/Tatsunoko case in the upcoming months, again it's way too early to give a specific answer or details. Well unless it is critical to the story, no studio is going to spend money fighting for an element they could create themselves, especially when it is common practice to redesign and change everything when adapting a property for the big screen. They will put together the most visually exciting script they can, and it may well not resemble any of the animation or have any of the characters from the original animations at all! This is common practice. They have bought the right to use the RT name, the concept of transforming planes and any elements they want from the shows, or none of the elements. They could opt to do a film about transforming fighters and blatantly rip off Macross Plus, like Stealth did. Whatever gives them the "wow" factor and fills the seats, is all they'll care about, if it resembles the original stories, well that's just a happy coincidence....
lord_breetai Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Actually I think the REF idea could be highly possible, and we don't know how much control HG has over this... but It would certainly tie into the Shadow Chron story arc and give sentinels fans what they're after. They can skirt most of the Macross-issues and give Sent fans what they want. Plus it gives them a ton of freedom in the story department, aside from the fact that certain characters have to come out alive, we can have almost any story imaginable. Plus focusing on the Sent characters (Jack Baker, Karen Penn et all) would allow Hollywood to introduce us to the characters without fans getting bored. And it wouldn't be too hard to explain the story thus far to new people, who might not even realize that stories based of an existing product.
Roy Focker Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Exactly. Whatever they want, without using a Macross design well that does sounds like bok.
kamikaze_kamujin Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 As the guy who was the one to ask those questions, I think you're grossly misstating Kevin's answers Did he say when asked about the Macross rights we have all rights to Robotech, yes or no?
JsARCLIGHT Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 You are aware that "Watchmen" is being filmed as we type, right? Yeah but not ten years ago when it was first reported to death... and not with Joel Silver directing... or Arnold Schwarzenegger starring... The Watchmen movie has been in development hell for nearly two decades now, as has the "new" Indiana Jones movie that is finally being filmed. Hell they even made a "fake" Fantastic Four movie just so they could make a "real" one ten years later. My point was that people should not instantly assume when they hear about a movie being made in the press that it is being made right now, right this instant by the people reported to be involved. How many times have we heard Ghostbusters 3 is "in it's early stages of development" or "started filming"? People just get so ramped up and bent out of shape with hollow reports on Hollywood's shopping list. All a celebrity has to do is mention something and the news rags run with it. Most of the time it's all rumor and conjecture, or some celebrities' pet project that goes nowhere until more "important" people get behind it.
CoryHolmes Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 My point was that people should not instantly assume when they hear about a movie being made in the press that it is being made right now, right this instant by the people reported to be involved. B-but... the media would never lie to us! It's just unthinkable.
Mechwarrior Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 I read this Robotech movie thing in yahoo news and came over to check details and was surprised to see so many bashing the idea. I am excited of an adaption one way or the other, sorry to hear so many hate the idea I think it would be kewl, maybe get some more fans of Macross too, I came from a Robotech background. Guess ill go see whats going on over at robotech.com, been about 5 years since I been their but hopefully I can find some positive opinions, cuz i am excited about the idea
Zinjo Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 My point was that people should not instantly assume when they hear about a movie being made in the press that it is being made right now, right this instant by the people reported to be involved. How many times have we heard Ghostbusters 3 is "in it's early stages of development" or "started filming"? People just get so ramped up and bent out of shape with hollow reports on Hollywood's shopping list. All a celebrity has to do is mention something and the news rags run with it. Most of the time it's all rumor and conjecture, or some celebrities' pet project that goes nowhere until more "important" people get behind it. True, however Hollywood is infamous for bandwagon jumping. Look at all the crap that came out after Star Wars in 1977! Anything set in space was greenlit until about 1984 when they started to get a bit more selective. LOTR propagated how many fantasy films in the last few years? The iron is hot for giant robot movies, and Hollywood will strike as much and as often as they can before it cools. Actually I think the REF idea could be highly possible, and we don't know how much control HG has over this... but It would certainly tie into the Shadow Chron story arc and give sentinels fans what they're after. They can skirt most of the Macross-issues and give Sent fans what they want. Plus it gives them a ton of freedom in the story department, aside from the fact that certain characters have to come out alive, we can have almost any story imaginable. Plus focusing on the Sent characters (Jack Baker, Karen Penn et all) would allow Hollywood to introduce us to the characters without fans getting bored. And it wouldn't be too hard to explain the story thus far to new people, who might not even realize that stories based of an existing product. WB could combine the events of Macross with Mospeada and have the aliens be the Invid from the start. This way they can use the Mospeada designs and get the mecha on mecha combat they'll want. If you notice they are not specific as to what the "aliens" are. The idea of getting technology from a crashed space ship is so generic that it can't really be attributed to the Macross story directly. There is no reason to believe they'll have to use the SDF-1 since subsequent "chapters" of RT show it as being a heap of wreckage, unlike the Macross franchise. A quick dialogue bite about how they stripped the ship down to barebones, could explain it's absence in the movie.
TheLoneWolf Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 I hate to say it, because Tobey Maguire isn't a bad guy, but I started thinking a bit about big budget vanity projects based on obscure source material, and Battlefield Earth came to mind. Wing Commander came to my mind. Like Robotech 3000, this new Robotech movie is never going to make it past pre-production.
JsARCLIGHT Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 True, however Hollywood is infamous for bandwagon jumping. Look at all the crap that came out after Star Wars in 1977! Anything set in space was greenlit until about 1984 when they started to get a bit more selective. LOTR propagated how many fantasy films in the last few years? The iron is hot for giant robot movies, and Hollywood will strike as much and as often as they can before it cools. Yes but that first "push" for the Silver/Schwarzenegger Watchmen was back when "the iron was hot" for superhero movies and nothing came of it for years and years. And think of how many totally crap movies get made when there is a fad timetable to try and hit. I still expect this "project" to go nowhere outside of a manila folder placed into a filing cabinet labeled as "future possibility". On the off chance that it does indeed proceed unabated it will most likely bear no resemblance to anything we know and like anyway. Basically, as already stated, if it does indeed clear the runway when boiled down it will be just another rush job "me too!" giant fighting robots movie with bad acting, a simplistic fourth grade fanfic-ish script, tons of blurry jumpy camera work and an audience of hardcore fanboys complaining that it was not a 100% faithful adherence to the original which itself was not 100% faithful to it's original source material. So I guess the long and the short of all I have to say is wait for production photos... model shots... costume shots... and all the other myriad of online leak material before getting all psyched or bummed about this project.
Mr March Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 True, however Hollywood is infamous for bandwagon jumping. Look at all the crap that came out after Star Wars in 1977! Anything set in space was greenlit until about 1984 when they started to get a bit more selective. I know this may be a stretch, but even the lousy Battlestar Galactica series did spawn...eventually...the 2003 reimagining which is, at last, a quality production
007-vf1 Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 Whoa!! I just looked in this tread today and found out some exciting news... So when is this Robojox movie you all are talking about coming out..??
azrael Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 On a related note, considering that work on Transformers 2 has come to a deathly silence due to an impending strike, who thinks work on RT will make it to May/June 2008? Considering that there's no script/screenplay, and nothing much beyond producers and a studio...I don't think this production can make it to May 2008 cutoff assuming that there is a possible strike on the horizon and assuming the worst.
Ranger565 Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 This is sad you guys rape a movie for comming out. Should be happy in my opinion. But then you cant make people happy no matter what you do. I have been around here a long time now and I keep my mouth shut. But man You guys have to rape something thats entertainment. If you dont like it dont go see it. <-- Shakes head at this stuff
Mr March Posted September 10, 2007 Posted September 10, 2007 What's sad is focusing on the negative. Sure there are always a few screaming for blood, but for the most part this thread has intelligent and insightful discussion. You get out of it what you put in.
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