Macross DVD questions

[sqidd]

I tried searching for the answer to this, and I swear I have seen part of my answer somewhere so I apologies if this is one of those noob questions.

I want to watch all of the Macross stuff start to finish. I found where to get the first 36 episodes in English, but I don’t know what comes next in the “series” and if it can be had in English. So how about a hand?

What is the order of all the Macross stuff and the name of it? Is it available in English? A good place to purchase it?

I would like to get everything “Macross” in English and to have a weekend of it.

Thanks

Jason

[miriya]

Hi there Sqidd,

I must somehow convince you to watch the 36 episodes of macross in Japanese with English subtitles. This is the BEST way to see it. You can get it here for $39.99 http://www.robotech.com/store/viewproduct.php?id=93

The original Japanese show newly dubbed into english is available but really just watch the above. It is available for $34.99 here http://www.robotech.com/store/viewproduct.php?id=243

Of course you could watch Robotech. After watching the entire Robotech macross saga and then watching the original Japanese with english subtitles. I formally renounced Robotech and became a macross purist. I grew up on Robotech and had loved it for decades but after seeing the original with eng subs I now think that Robotech is really cheezy crap (with a huge amount of sentimental value). I implore you to watch it in its original form with eng subs. It is quite amazing how HG and Carl Macik butchered the show.

Macross timeline coming up.....

[miriya]

First in the timeline is macross zero, which is a tie at best macross ever with the original show for me. IT IS JUST AMAZING!!!

WARNING: Do not buy it from ebay or an anime store. The only commercially available macross zero DVDs contain the WORST SUBTITLING EVER! I just could not understand it! It is screwed up because it was translated from Japanese into chinese and then from chinese into english and it is just rubbish!

There is a perfect translation available fan sub version by ANBU which is the BEST!!! You can not get this on DVD but you can torrent it to your computer and burn a DVD from there. You can find this on many torrents around. I think this one has it here: http://old.sharemanija.net/modules.php?op=...le&sid=8837

More soon....

[sqidd]

Hi there Sqidd,

I must somehow convince you to watch the 36 episodes of macross in Japanese with English subtitles. This is the BEST way to see it. You can get it here for $39.99 http://www.robotech.com/store/viewproduct.php?id=93

The original Japanese show newly dubbed into english is available but really just watch the above. It is available for $34.99 here http://www.robotech.com/store/viewproduct.php?id=243

Of course you could watch Robotech. After watching the entire Robotech macross saga and then watching the original Japanese with english subtitles. I formally renounced Robotech and became a macross purist. I grew up on Robotech and had loved it for decades but after seeing the original with eng subs I now think that Robotech is really cheezy crap (with a huge amount of sentimental value). I implore you to watch it in its original form with eng subs. It is quite amazing how HG and Carl Macik butchered the show.

Macross timeline coming up.....

I am hoping that Macross does the same thing to me! I got the Robotech box set a month ago (that’s what started the toy thing) and I have watched two discs ad the only reason I am still watching it is sentimental value. The purists on this board are purists for a reason, Macross has got to be great.

The subs on the other hand…………..I won’t survive! As much as I agree with you that to get the whole experience I need to watch the dubbed version, I can’t do it. It’s just not in my DNA. I have tried watching all sorts of great movies that were dubbed and I can’t make it past a half hour. Your urgings are very appreciated.

The timeline and some direction towards a place to purchase would be great (assumptive close ).

[miriya]

Ok so first is macross zero (not yet available in dubbed verision - best sub is ANBU)

Then there is the TV show Super Dimensional Fortress Macross (best is the original Japanese with english subtitles)

Then there is Macross Do You Remember Love (DYRL) the movie which has several versions available. I got this one and am happy although some other members may be able to point you in to the direction of a better quality release. Link is here http://discountanimedvd.com/detail.asp?dvdno=117

Then there is Macross 2012 which kind of goes simultaneously with SDF Macross TV, the movie, and then a little tid bit more story that happens after the DYRL movie. It is mainly Minmay music videos with some flash backs and some added stuff. Link here http://discountanimedvd.com/detail.asp?dvdno=220

Then there is Macross Plus OVA with 4 episodes and then a movie version that is those episodes condensed with stuff taken out and a little bit added. I personally like the OVA best but I own both and enjoy both. I really love Macross Plus! It is second after Zero and SDF Macross for me. It is available in Japanese with English Subtitles as well as english dub. OVA Link http://www.amazon.com/Macross-Plus-Collect...1148&sr=1-8

Movie version link http://www.amazon.com/Macross-Plus-Movie-B...1148&sr=1-7

More soon....

[miriya]

Next after Macross Plus is Macross 7, Macross 7 Dynamite 7, and Macross 7 the movie. You can get them all here http://discountanimedvd.com/detail.asp?dvdno=14607 but it is subbed and I do not know if there is a dubbed version available.

Debatable after that is Macross II Lovers again and Macross II the Movie but some would say that this comes right after DYRL. Can someone more knowledgeable let me know too. There is an english dub of the movie link http://www.amazon.com/Macross-II-Dub-Hirok...a/dp/6303695345 and the OVA Lovers again is very hard to find. You can maybe torrent is somewhere or find on ebay. Mine does not have a dub version only subs.

Another cool think is the 20th aniversary DVD which is not even subbed as far as I can tell. It actually crashes my computer but it is worth it for all the cool scenes. Link http://discountanimedvd.com/detail.asp?dvdno=1637

Maybe some other members can correct me on some of this stuff?

[miriya]

If you have to go with dubbed version of SDF macross go with this one instead of robotech. http://www.robotech.com/store/viewproduct.php?id=243

[sqidd]

Wow, thanks for the homework. I didn't know there was that much stuff! I'm excited

[valk1j]

There is no dub of Macross 7. The best set for Macross 7 are these by FX:

http://www.discountanimedvd.com/detail.asp...ateName=Macross

http://www.discountanimedvd.com/detail.asp...ateName=Macross

Macross II the Movie is the same as Macross II Lovers Again, there is no difference the Movie just puts each episode together. Macross II is not part of the Macross continuity it is an alternate universe of Macross.

Macross continuity:

Macross Zero : 5 episode OVA

SDF Macross : 36 episode TV series

Macross Flashback 2012 : 30 minute OVA music compilation with about 5 minutes of new footage

Macross Do You Remember Love? : 2 hour movie that takes place in the Macross universe c.2031

Macross Plus: 4 episode OVA and 2 hour movie with added footage and re-arranged scenes for better flow in movie format, some scenes from OVA are removed.

Macross 7 : 49 episode TV series

Macross 7 Encore : 3 sort of missing episodes from series - they take place during the series

Macross 7 Movie : 1/2 hour movie - OVA type animation but takes place during the series as well

Macross 7 Dynamite : 4 episode OVA that takes place a year after the events in the above series

All the Macross 7 stuff above is included in the 2 sets that i linked.

[sqidd]

What does OVA mean?

[Mr March]

Original Video Animation. A term used for anime titles that are released direct-to-video, without prior showings on TV or in theaters

Edited August 13, 2007 by Mr March

[Zinjo]

If you have to go with dubbed version of SDF macross go with this one instead of robotech. http://www.robotech.com/store/viewproduct.php?id=243

Unfortunately that version takes A LOT of liberties with the dialogue from the original show, which does affect how the audience view the characters...

Better to stick with subtitles and get used to them, because if Macross 25 is released here through Bandai Visual, they don't do dubs....

[Zinjo]

Debatable after that is Macross II Lovers again but some would say that this comes right after DYRL. Can someone more knowledgeable let me know too. There is an english dub of the movie link http://www.amazon.com/Macross-II-Dub-Hirok...a/dp/6303695345 and the OVA Lovers again is very hard to find. You can maybe torrent is somewhere or find on ebay. Mine does not have a dub version only subs..

Mac II takes place approximately 60 years after the events depicted in DYRL and has a very different vision of the Macross universe post SW1 as opposed to the Studio Nue continuity.

However with the release of the time/space slip of 1995 in the Stuido Nue continuity, who knows if that will somehow make Mac II a canon series, but in an alternate reality from the Nue continuity, as well as open the door to other AU Macross stories.

[Keith]

I seriously doubt there will be AU Macross stories, as II proved, it just doesn't work. Besides, we already have Gundam. How many damn times do you want to see the Zentradi invade?

[John Focker]

Mac II takes place approximately 60 years after the events depicted in DYRL and has a very different vision of the Macross universe post SW1 as opposed to the Studio Nue continuity.

[C O R R E C T I O N]

Macross II takes place approximately 80 years after the First Space War, not 60.

[orguss01]

Unfortunately that version takes A LOT of liberties with the dialogue from the original show, which does affect how the audience view the characters...

Better to stick with subtitles and get used to them, because if Macross 25 is released here through Bandai Visual, they don't do dubs....

Zinjo-Just to clarify, you're talking about the english dub thats on this dvd or the sub? How are the subs?say compared to the other relese, the black cases without the english dub?.

Edited August 14, 2007 by orguss01

[sqidd]

Do you guys kow if one of these Macross Zero DVD's are worth getting?

Door #1

Door #2

Door #3

Door #4

I got....

Macross Plus episodes 1-4 english

Macross II the movie english

SDFM (36 episodes) english

......today. I need to fill some blanks i so I can start watching. I am comfortable with subs if I can't find english dubs, but I will still look for them

[miriya]

Do you guys kow if one of these Macross Zero DVD's are worth getting?

Door #1

Door #2

Door #3

Door #4

I got....

Macross Plus episodes 1-4 english

Macross II the movie english

SDFM (36 episodes) english

......today. I need to fill some blanks i so I can start watching. I am comfortable with subs if I can't find english dubs, but I will still look for them

Sqidd, definitely do not get the ones that have chinese subtitles too. Those are the ones that have the horrible translation for subtitles that make no sense whatsoever. I hold to my original statement that the best way to see Macross Zero is to watch the ANBU fansubs.

[Keith]

True the translation is bad, but the ones with just English are DVD-R's, at least with the chinese subtitle versions, he'll get a real DVD with better video quality.

[Chopped50ford]

I tried to get the Macross 7 series from the Discount Anime site and im having trouble through the checkout...anyone else having this problem?

i really want to purchase these (is there anywhere else that I can get these?):

Then there is Macross Do You Remember Love (DYRL) the movie which has several versions available. I got this one and am happy although some other members may be able to point you in to the direction of a better quality release. Link is here http://discountanimedvd.com/detail.asp?dvdno=117

There is no dub of Macross 7. The best set for Macross 7 are these by FX:

http://www.discountanimedvd.com/detail.asp...ateName=Macross

http://www.discountanimedvd.com/detail.asp...ateName=Macross

Edited August 23, 2007 by Chopped50ford

[sqidd]

Well I am half way through the SDFM series right now. I watch 2-3 a day. Strangly enough my wife got into them! Which is cool. I have to wait for her to be home to watch and episode now though I am sooooooo impressed with the series over R%$&*$#@!. I'm glad that I only watched the first 6 episodes of the re-issue last month before I got the SDFM series. It's cool that I watched those episodes so the Macross series could be put in perspective. As in, how much better it is. I had not seen a R%&^*%$#@$ episode since I was 15, so I don't remember much of the story line, which is cool because SDFM is all surpises for me.

I just saw a clip from Zero ad I had no idea that the anumation was so much more advaced, I can't wait to watch it!

I thought of something the other night though that I didn't ask in this thread. I asked for the timeline and the order of Macross, but what I didn't ask for is in what order they were released. I am assuming that SDFM was first ad at some point Zero was a pre-quil. Is that correct? What order were they released in?

I curretly have:

Zero

SDFM

Plus vol 1

Plus vol 2

Macross II

I am thiking I need to get my hands on DYRL at this point. It's not like I need another DVD yesterday or anything, I am ot watchig them that fast. But I do want to start lookig for more soon so I have them in waiting.

thanks again for your help!

[sqidd]

Then there is Macross Do You Remember Love (DYRL) the movie which has several versions available. I got this one and am happy although some other members may be able to point you in to the direction of a better quality release. Link is here http://discountanimedvd.com/detail.asp?dvdno=117

Is there a consensus that this is the version to get?

[vermillion01]

Hi folks.. could do with some advice on this one... does anyone have this set, or know if its any good?

http://www.uk2usa.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=0001110

i like the idea of dual languages ( i know, i know.... watch it with subs... but i can get others into it easier with a dub too)

EDIT- i have already ordered the 25th ltdEd box of DYRL... but the series box is too expensice right now... maybe get it later.

Edited September 9, 2007 by vermillion01

[bankrupt]

EDIT- i have already ordered the 25th ltdEd box of DYRL... but the series box is too expensice right now... maybe get it later.

You aren't kidding. At CD Japan, the series is listed as 38000 yen. Yikes!

I'm guessing these don't have English subtitles?

[Keith]

Well I am half way through the SDFM series right now. I watch 2-3 a day. Strangly enough my wife got into them! Which is cool. I have to wait for her to be home to watch and episode now though I am sooooooo impressed with the series over R%$&*$#@!. I'm glad that I only watched the first 6 episodes of the re-issue last month before I got the SDFM series. It's cool that I watched those episodes so the Macross series could be put in perspective. As in, how much better it is. I had not seen a R%&^*%$#@$ episode since I was 15, so I don't remember much of the story line, which is cool because SDFM is all surpises for me.

I just saw a clip from Zero ad I had no idea that the anumation was so much more advaced, I can't wait to watch it!

I thought of something the other night though that I didn't ask in this thread. I asked for the timeline and the order of Macross, but what I didn't ask for is in what order they were released. I am assuming that SDFM was first ad at some point Zero was a pre-quil. Is that correct? What order were they released in?

I curretly have:

Zero

SDFM

Plus vol 1

Plus vol 2

Macross II

I am thiking I need to get my hands on DYRL at this point. It's not like I need another DVD yesterday or anything, I am ot watchig them that fast. But I do want to start lookig for more soon so I have them in waiting.

thanks again for your help!

Release order:

1982 - Macross

1984 - DYRL

1987 - Flashback 2012

1992 - Macross II

1994 - Macross Plus / Macross 7

1997 - Macross Dynamite 7

2003/4 - Macross Zero.

Looks like what you really need to get is 7.

Edited September 10, 2007 by Keith

[sqidd]

Release order:

1982 - Macross

1984 - DYRL

1987 - Flashback 2012

1992 - Macross II

1994 - Macross Plus / Macross 7

1997 - Macross Dynamite 7

2003/4 - Macross Zero.

Looks like what you really need to get is 7.

No wonder Zero looks so bad a$$, that makes sense.

DYRL and 7 and I'm good to go

thanks

[DestroidDefender]

I tried to get the Macross 7 series from the Discount Anime site and im having trouble through the checkout...anyone else having this problem?

You can also find good Fansubs for Macross 7 by download. I'd check the iMacross share thread pinned at the top. The subs on the HK import/bootleg anime are irredeemably awful.

[Alpha OTS]

No wonder Zero looks so bad a$$, that makes sense.

DYRL and 7 and I'm good to go

thanks

Try to sample some 7 episodes before buying a large amount of it. It's not everyone's cup of tea. DYRL is a must-have though, as is Zero and Plus.

[Keith]

Try to sample some 7 episodes before buying a large amount of it. It's not everyone's cup of tea. DYRL is a must-have though, as is Zero and Plus.

That's true for everything. And hell, if he bought Macross II, he can sure as hell buy 7.

[MilSpex]

Anybody who isn`t willing to even try to watch Macross subtitled or learn Japanese isn`t a true Macross fan.

[lechuck]

Anybody who isn`t willing to even try to watch Macross subtitled or learn Japanese isn`t a true Macross fan.

And anybody that proclaims this kind of rubbish cannot call themselves a true and tolerant Macross fan!!!

[big F]

I have serveral of the chinese dubs and they are at best o.k but at worst un-understandable, the only thing that saves them for me is the fact that I can speak a fair ammount of Japanese so I dont read the subs as much as others might do.

[Keith]

And anybody that proclaims this kind of rubbish cannot call themselves a true and tolerant Macross fan!!!

Sure they can!

[sqidd]

Anybody who isn`t willing to even try to watch Macross subtitled or learn Japanese isn`t a true Macross fan.

And anybody that proclaims this kind of rubbish cannot call themselves a true and tolerant Macross fan!!!

Sure they can!

I’m getting so controversial

For the record never said I wasn't willing to watch subs, just that I prefered not to. I will most certainly be doing it when I watch Zero here later this week when I am done with SDFM.

[sqidd]

TTT