eriku Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Yep, loser scalpers are a pain, but hopefully all your fears are for naught. Speaking of WalMart, since when did they start carrying the Encore stuff online? I tried to see of they had MP Starscream on their site-they didn't, but they did have the Optimus and Starscream Encore reissues. I noticed that yesterday too! They had all four of them for around $100 each, and all in stock. That seems like a very unlikely place for the Encore toys. And yes, I hope all of my fears are for naught as well. The Concept Bumblebee fiasco just really has my feathers ruffled right now.
emajnthis Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 I noticed that yesterday too! They had all four of them for around $100 each, and all in stock. That seems like a very unlikely place for the Encore toys. And yes, I hope all of my fears are for naught as well. The Concept Bumblebee fiasco just really has my feathers ruffled right now. I got lucky with the CC BB because a close friend of mine works at TRU, but it looks like i'm on my own with the Wal-Mart Exclusives
HoveringCheesecake Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 If they have a bunch here in Fargo I'll try and grab a few extras for you guys. It'd be cool if we all did that just in case the scalpers go crazy.
Vermillion21 Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 Yeah, the recent TF movie hype has made collecting TFs much more difficult than it was before. Finding Concept Camaro 09 Bumblebee was brutal!!! Finding Masterpiece Starscream at Wal-Mart is going to be a pain in the a$$!!! Frack.
HoveringCheesecake Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 For those of you worried and/or angry about the black streaks on the back of Hasbro MP-SS... take a look at this. (not my picture, I just mirrored it)
David Hingtgen Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Still there, and the silver on the back is all wrong. It's like they got the top and bottom of the plane confused.
eriku Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Why are all of the wing joints black? Heh, Hasbro probably thought that it "looked pretty sharp" that way. I'm sure it's no different, but if the Japanese version has grey wing joints I may just cough up the extra dough for that and skip the scalper headache altogether. When is the Japanese version coming out, anyway?
SuperHobo Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Heh, Hasbro probably thought that it "looked pretty sharp" that way. I'm sure it's no different, but if the Japanese version has grey wing joints I may just cough up the extra dough for that and skip the scalper headache altogether. When is the Japanese version coming out, anyway? Takara's version should be coming out pretty soon. Don't quote me on this, but they should be releases on November 1st according to some sources I know. However the Hasbro version at $50 is pretty awesome considering what you get. I'll continue to rampage my Wal-Mart to see if they stock this bad boy. Hehe I live a block away from Wal-Mart.
Matt Random Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 The wing joints have been black in every picture shown so far. I noticed it the first time and it has bothered me ever since. I hadn't noticed the silver over the engines before. That looks really bad.
promethuem5 Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 I'm gonna pick one up at Wally-World no matter what bc/ of the price, and I figure that at that price I can do some paint upgrades myself the likes of which I have not done to my original MP SS.
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Here's an alternative route if you wanna avoid the hunt: http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Masterp...n/dp/B000XZMKYQ
eugimon Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Here's an alternative route if you wanna avoid the hunt: http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Masterp...n/dp/B000XZMKYQ @ 2x the price? ouch.
ruskiiVFaussie Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 wtf is it with the silver? Why did they do that?
Jeremy007 Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 that two-tone silver looks like crap. It looks like a pre-production toy, as they are trying to figure out a paint app. hasbro is KNOWN for their horrible paint jobs and color choices.
eriku Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Here's an alternative route if you wanna avoid the hunt: http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Masterp...n/dp/B000XZMKYQ That's supporting the scalpers just as much as buying one on Ebay. But yeah, it's an alternative.
Vermillion21 Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 FYI: more TF Real Gear repaints .... in case you missed them the first, or second time around ..... Meh. http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default...B05FB648C362A21
eriku Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 I like the repaints of PowerUp and Reflector, but still...meh. Call me when there's a new Real Gear that isn't a repaint.
Valkyrie Hunter D Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) @ 2x the price? ouch. Yeah, ain’t that crazy? But if things get real dire in terms of finding this thing (especially for places without a WalMart), a shop like this might be the only choice. I’m thinking of waiting to see what the Japanese release looks like, but I’m sure it won’t cost $50. I’ve swung by two WalMarts up here, but found no Starscreams. Although I did find a whole slew of Classic Devastators, Rumbles and Ravages. I’ll try again later in the week. Edited October 30, 2007 by Valkyrie Hunter D
Apollo Leader Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Still there, and the silver on the back is all wrong. It's like they got the top and bottom of the plane confused. I pointed this out months ago, but it's got to be remembered that Starscream (in this incarnation anyway) is an alien robot from another world and not truly an F-15 so I think it's safe to suspend reality regarding some of the details about this toy. Of course if they were trying to truly represent a real world F-15, then I think we could be a little more picky.
Vermillion21 Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 I’ve swung by two WalMarts up here, but found no Starscreams. Although I did find a whole slew of Classic Devastators, Rumbles and Ravages. Must be nice, I never saw Alternators Rumble, nor Ravage at Wal-Mart ....
Radd Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) I pointed this out months ago, but it's got to be remembered that Starscream (in this incarnation anyway) is an alien robot from another world and not truly an F-15 so I think it's safe to suspend reality regarding some of the details about this toy. Of course if they were trying to truly represent a real world F-15, then I think we could be a little more picky. And if anyone was talking about realism, I'd be right there with you. However, I believe most people are complaining about how it's a very poor aesthetic choice. At best, it stands out as not looking right. At worst, it makes the toy look cheap. The black hinges are the same problem. Most people don't want realism, anyways. They want a toy in Starscream's very unrealistic G1 colour scheme. Edited October 30, 2007 by Radd
eriku Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Yeah, I don't care about realism, but the black joints and silver thruster covers just look odd with the rest of the jet. I can't think of any good reason the flaps are silver, it seems very random.
eugimon Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Must be nice, I never saw Alternators Rumble, nor Ravage at Wal-Mart .... no alts around here either, but there was a bunch of megatrons and brawls .
promethuem5 Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 I don't care about realism either for this SS, but the black hinges just don't look right.
eriku Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 Has anyone done recast parts for the Masterpiece Seeker mold yet? I'd be interested in recast wing hinges, assuming they're something that can be swapped without destroying the rest of the wing. Maybe recast thruster covers too, but I'm assuming the silver is painted on and thus removable.
promethuem5 Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 I don't think anyone has recasted parts, but I'm also pretty sure the wing-hinges wouldn't come out easily. I wouldn't want to replace them with resin anyways... I figure they'll paint over in grey alright.
mpchi Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 I am not as bothered by the silver. Its just like the red and the blue on it, not something to help on the realism anyway. But the black hinges really bothers me. Its another example of how bad some of those guys at Hasbro are, when it comes to toy design. Is it that hard to mold those in the off white, just like the wing? How much common sense does it really need for that?
eriku Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 I'm sure a Hasbro suit looked at it and said, "why don't you throw something in there to break up all that grey?" And then he greenlighted a few more grey movie toys because he's insane like that.
Alpha OTS Posted October 30, 2007 Posted October 30, 2007 And if anyone was talking about realism, I'd be right there with you. However, I believe most people are complaining about how it's a very poor aesthetic choice. At best, it stands out as not looking right. At worst, it makes the toy look cheap. The black hinges are the same problem. Most people don't want realism, anyways. They want a toy in Starscream's very unrealistic G1 colour scheme. I wanted the toy in realistic colors but with those colors as close to homage as possible. It could have been done, there's jet colors out there that they could have chosen as the base color that aren't that far off from Screamer's base. Unfortunately MP Screamer was waaaaaaaay off the mark with the seaweed, and was imo, ugly to boot. As has been noted Wally Screamer isn't perfect either, but it's far closer to what I wanted than MP was. MP Skywarp achieved that happy medium and is dead sexy to boot.
Vermillion21 Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 Anyone know if the Takara Starscream's issues are resolved by this new Hasbro release? I'm certain that I read on other fan boards that Skywarp had the fixes ...
Vermillion21 Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 For you die hard TF fans ... time to buy the new Nike TF shoes: http://freshnessmag.com/v4/2007/08/07/fres...nsformers-pack/
promethuem5 Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 Just curious, but how much of a fix IS there btw/ Skywarp and SS? I had a few small stress marks, but never anything really bad on my SS so what needed fixing?
Radd Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 (edited) Just curious, but how much of a fix IS there btw/ Skywarp and SS? I had a few small stress marks, but never anything really bad on my SS so what needed fixing? I've been curious about that, too, as I much preferred the Takara Starscream (though, ideally, I would have preferred more of a dark grey, or a dark grey with just a tinge of blue as the base colour). I just heard so many horror stories about the hinges on Starscream showing stress marks immediately, and then cracking after several transformations. I even asked the board if it was really that bad, or if maybe it would be fine if I just treated it with the same care I treat my Yamato Valkyries, but everyone seemed to agree that it was a design flaw that would make the toy likely to break no matter how careful you were. Now that the price has skyrocketed and most places are out of stock, I'd be disappointed to hear that it was an exaggeration after all. I can understand the nostalgia factor and I'm glad a version of MP Starscream is coming out to appeal to that, but I'd much rather the toy that I find more appealing to look at. I did pick up Skywarp. Absolutely marvelous. I've transformed him like a dozen times, no stress marks. I even took it to work with me. Edited October 31, 2007 by Radd
Guppy Posted October 31, 2007 Posted October 31, 2007 Just picked up the Alternators Prime and Rodimus.. both pretty cool. I like Prime better than Rod, thought it'd be the other way around. He's a lot more sturdy in robot mode and transformation is much easier.
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