bsu legato Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Whereas Temple of Doom and Last Crusade were directly written by Lucas. Lawrence Kasdan has had no further involvement with the Indy franchise This is incorrect. ToD was written by Willard Huyck, based on a story by Lucas. Crusade was done by Jeffrey Boam, again based on a story by Lucas. Lucas has no screenplay credits on all three original Indy films. Quote
JsARCLIGHT Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 It would appear that Wikipedia has boned me again. Edit: On second thought that explains quite a lot. Willard Huyck directed Howard the Duck and Jeffrey Boam wrote The Phantom and two of the Lethal Weapon movies. Now it all makes sense... Hurin has his root of evil. Quote
Hurin Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 It would appear that Wikipedia has boned me again. Edit: On second thought that explains quite a lot. Willard Huyck directed Howard the Duck and Jeffrey Boam wrote The Phantom and two of the Lethal Weapon movies. Now it all makes sense... Hurin has his root of evil. Clearly, the "root of evil" is George Lucas's adopted child. He became a father of an adopted girl after Empire and Raiders but before ToD and Return of the Jedi. It could be coincidence, but I really think that changed the dude. That and the ugly divorce he went through at the same time. Which also begs the question: Who adopts a child while going through a divorce? Young directors/producers like Lucas and Spielberg grow older and not only start making cheezier movies for the "kids". . . but also go back and alter their earlier stuff to remove things their older, more delicate political sensibilities now perceive to be offensive. Hence the guns being replaced with walkie-talkies in E.T. and all of Lucas's dumb ass decisions in the new and (retroactively) old Star Wars films. George Lucas has an uncanny ability to take his own cool ideas (from an earlier era) and somehow completely mangle them and make them utterly lame. I know it's cliche to say someone has lost their touch. . . but he epitomizes that phrase. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to go wallow in my thoroughly mediocre life where I won't ever achieve even 1% of George Lucas's success or wealth. The internet sucks. Quote
Mr March Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 Mr. March said that the latter two films are more mystical. I'd actually diagree with this as well (surprised?). Respectively, Hurin. Respectively. Meaning in the order given. Temple of Doom and Last Crusade add more mysticism and humor respectivley than the first installment, but I'm afraid I'm not seeing any major departures that drives the sequels into Spy Kids territory. Hence, Temple of Doom = more mysticism while Last Crusade = more humor. Quote
dizman Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 The reason some younger folk love last crusade so much, myself for example, is because it was the 1st indianna jones movie they watched. Nostalgia's a powerful thing. This is too true, I love the Last Crusade since its the first one I saw but in my mind Raiders of the Lost Ark will always be the best (and truly only) Indiana Jones. Temple of Doom is a representation of what is wrong with hollywood and probably Indie 4 will be too, but that doesnt mean I wont go see it anyways. I also agree with Hurin about the fact that once Lucas had a kid, his movies changed very drastically. Quote
bsu legato Posted February 2, 2008 Posted February 2, 2008 Indiana Jones and the Perilous New Pictures! Quote
bsu legato Posted February 3, 2008 Posted February 3, 2008 Looks like an old man cosplaying as Indy. No, if it was cosplay, his costume would be made of that shiny polyester crap that they seem to love. Quote
Vermillion21 Posted February 3, 2008 Posted February 3, 2008 Looks like an old man cosplaying as Indy. :lol: Quote
hirohawa Posted February 3, 2008 Posted February 3, 2008 Homeboy looks old. On the plus side he didn't get large like Shatner but he doesn't look badass the way Clint did at his age. I saw him at a burger joint with another MWer about a year ago and he looked a kinda frail. He just doesn't have that mischief in his eyes anymore. Hasn't had it in a long time. Quote
ruskiiVFaussie Posted February 3, 2008 Posted February 3, 2008 (edited) lookin forward to this movie. so is it confirmnd Sean won't be in it??? come on, that would be mighty sad if he snubbed a role. >_< Edited February 3, 2008 by ruskiiVFaussie Quote
kanedaestes Posted February 3, 2008 Posted February 3, 2008 To my knowledge he is very upset at how hollywood treated his last film the league of extraordinary gentlemen and has officially retired until things change so yes he is out. Quote
bob joe mac Posted February 3, 2008 Posted February 3, 2008 Also hes nearly 80 years old... I think he may be done movies Quote
ruskiiVFaussie Posted February 4, 2008 Posted February 4, 2008 Be good if he came out in did a 5 minute cameo or something atleast, be good for him to go out on top. That is if this movie will be of such calibur. but i am sure it will be. Quote
eugimon Posted February 4, 2008 Posted February 4, 2008 Be good if he came out in did a 5 minute cameo or something atleast, be good for him to go out on top. That is if this movie will be of such calibur. but i am sure it will be. This movie would have to be complete crap... like good luck chuck, crap... in order to be worse than the last couple of films connery did before he retired. Quote
ruskiiVFaussie Posted February 4, 2008 Posted February 4, 2008 meh, the car and Nemo's ship was cool at least. Quote
bsu legato Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 Take this with a HEAPING mound of salt, until it's actually confirmed....but this could be the titular crystal skull. uh-huh-huh-huh-huh....titular. Quote
Vermillion21 Posted February 5, 2008 Posted February 5, 2008 meh, the car and Nemo's ship was cool at least. :lol: Quote
Fort Max Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Take this with a HEAPING mound of salt, until it's actually confirmed....but this could be the titular crystal skull. uh-huh-huh-huh-huh....titular. Looks a little alien-y, don'tcha think? Quote
Fly4victory Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Looks a little alien-y, don'tcha think? Indiana X-Files? It explains the US soldiers behind Harrison Ford in one of the new photos. Quote
Roy Focker Posted February 6, 2008 Posted February 6, 2008 Wasn't there an episode of the A-Team featuring a crystal skull? Quote
dizman Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 Yeah that skull doesn't look to human does it, sigh and I was really hoping the plot wouldnt be completely stupid. Oh well, I'll still go see this. Quote
Sundown Posted February 7, 2008 Posted February 7, 2008 I found the following in a comment beneath the picture on a site somewhere. "Word has it, Lucas also was dead set on "a certain idea" that Spielberg and Harrison Ford were against, but Lucas wouldn't change his mind. It came down to, "Well, this is our last chance, are we going to do it or not?" and they gave in." I cannot corroborate the validity of this, but it sounds... well... Lucas. If it were true, you'd think Lucas would have listened to the man who made *the* movie on alien encounters. Also the man who has experience with what some see as an inappropriate use of aliens into a movie of his own. If *he* thinks it a bad idea... *cues Hurin* Quote
uminoken Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Leaked trailer. The trailer's gonna be up in about 7 or so hours, but for you night (or day) owls, here's the boot of it. Quote
Duke Togo Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Totally underwhelming. It certainly looks like Lucas was able to work in all that *great* dialog he couldn't cram into Attack of the Clones into this movie. I wonder if there will be any stepping in poo scenes? Maybe Cate Blanchett will let one rip during a particularly tense scene, and her little soviet minions will have to stifle their giggles. Wow, man, that trailer just destroyed the excitement I had about this thing. Quote
Godzilla Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Wow, man, that trailer just destroyed the excitement I had about this thing. Tell me about it. I thought it would be a whole lot better. I assume the US soldiers are not what they seem to be since Kate's character was leading them. Quote
Hurin Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 I've got nothing to say other than to point out that the trailer (which is supposed to represent the best a movie has to offer) goes out of its way to be funny above all else. . . and fails. . . and thus, for me, any residual hope that this movie could buck the Lucas trend is lost. I just smashed my spine through a windshield and am now sitting between two of my enemies. . . time for a (lame) joke while they stare at me dumbfounded instead of shooting/punching/capturing me! Lucas. . . cannot. . . make. . . a. . . decent. . . movie. Quote
Dr. Z Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 It's only a trailer guys. It doesn't tell ANYTHING. Quote
Hurin Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 It's only a trailer guys. It doesn't tell ANYTHING. I wonder why they made it then. Quote
Godzilla Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 Somehow this movie doesnt seem to capture the what the old Indy movies had. But then again, I am basing it on the trailer. Quote
JsARCLIGHT Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 I thought Indy smashing into the truck windscreen was actually pretty funny. IMHO while it does not yet "feel" Indy it has the right elements in place. The shot structure is very Spielberg and, for what it's worth, the dialog is very Lucas. Then again the only dialog we are hearing are the typical movie trailer expositional snippets... stuff that is supposed to "hook" us with catchy "one liners". On the negative side (dialog aside) the shots seem very dark, almost ominous. I know the Indy franchise has it's fair share of ominous but this trailer seems top heavy with "brooding" darks. Quote
vermillion01 Posted February 14, 2008 Posted February 14, 2008 waaaayyy too much obvious CGI for my liking. Indy movies have always had an element of believable stunts and "looked" real. This has a stink of over CGI'd just like the Starwars prequels had. I will reserve proper judgement until i see more though. Quote
Sundown Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 Lucas. . . cannot. . . make. . . a. . . decent. . . movie. Apparently Frank Darabont, of Shawshank Redemption fame, finished a screenplay for Speilberg, who that it was the best thing since Raiders and was ready to shoot. George didn't like it. You have the guy who wrote "I don't like sand. It's rough. You're soft and smooth." overriding the opinions of one of the best moviemakers alive and the man responsible for one of the best movies of all time. But to be fair, rumors are Darabont's script dealt with the same subject matter, Indy in the 50's and aliens, and there's a fair amount in the existing movie that keeps his take on things. With Spielberg around, it might not totally be unwatchable. It's going to have Lucas's fingerprints all over the place though. For what it's worth, I didn't think the "I thought it was closer" gag that horrible or juvenile. Maybe not as understated and wryly executed as I would have liked, but it didn't make me totally grimace. Quote
Hurin Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 For what it's worth, I didn't think the "I thought it was closer" gag that horrible or juvenile. Maybe not as understated and wryly executed as I would have liked, but it didn't make me totally grimace. On second viewing (cuz I may have been hasty), it's not as egregious as it could be. But, it still represents a pretty good example of the type of ass-hatery that (to my mind) ruined the latter two Indy films and every Lucas endeavor since Empire. Since they seem so proud of this "funny" moment that they chose to showcase it in the trailer, I'm willing to bet that there will be tons more moments like this throughout the movie. . . just as there were throughout Last Crusade and every other Lucas vehicle in recent (and not-so-recent) memory. Quote
UN Spacy Posted February 15, 2008 Author Posted February 15, 2008 HD trailer is out. http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/indianajon...3g1GC6bw55fVXcA Quote
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