eugimon Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 you do realize that MW2 DOESN'T have infinitely spawning enemies, right? Also, if you actually THINK about where you're going, you can come up with some pretty novel ways of getting around firefights, instead of just running into bottle necks and dieing over and over. and it's still a better story than halo, so there you go. Actually, it does. I stayed and sat around in the bottleneck areas just to test it. There's several spawn points in the brazil slum. It's not as bad as in MW where they just kept jumping down from ledges but they still do just pop up. The baddies also spawn depending on where you are. There's several points where they're hiding behind doors or windows but you can't shoot them until you've crossed a magic line on the map and then they can take damage. This also happens during some of the myriad "breach" sequences. I put an entire clip into a guy's head and he wouldn't go down until after a few moments when suddenly the "can take damage" switch was thrown. As for going around firefights... yes, there's a few instances where you can do, as long as you go far enough to reach another "safe zone" where the game stops spawning baddies magically behind you or plopping them down magically on some rooftop where they magically know exactly where you are even though they no line of sight. Actually, the plot to this game pretty much is the plot to Halo, so there you go.
Wanzerfan Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 (edited) Well, I'm now finally playing Persona 3 FES (which arrived early, thank you Amazon.com) and was pleseantly suprised to hear a few vocal actors. Dan Woren as Igor and Ikutsuki Shuji and the actor who did Vayne Aurelius in Mana Khemia: Alchemists of Al-Revis as Sanada Akihiko. I hope to hear more recognizable actors the further I play. Why when they localize Japanese games the companies don't give the names of the Japanese characters in proper order (clan name first, given name second) is beyond me. The only localized game I've come across so far that gets it right was Front Mission 3. Edited November 19, 2009 by Wanzerfan
RD Blade Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 they magically know exactly where you are even though they no line of sight.Now THAT is aggravating. Enemies with magic radar and itchy trigger fingers is not the same thing as "improved AI".
eugimon Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 You summed up my thoughts on Modern Warfare 2 pretty well. haha, I hadn't read your review... was avoiding spoilers. I liked the game, it's fun but I guess coming off of batman, uncharted 2 and dragon age, I just wasn't as impressed by this as I was by the first modern warfare game..
Gaijin Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 Actually, it does. I stayed and sat around in the bottleneck areas just to test it. There's several spawn points in the brazil slum. It's not as bad as in MW where they just kept jumping down from ledges but they still do just pop up. The baddies also spawn depending on where you are. There's several points where they're hiding behind doors or windows but you can't shoot them until you've crossed a magic line on the map and then they can take damage. This also happens during some of the myriad "breach" sequences. I put an entire magazine into a guy's head and he wouldn't go down until after a few moments when suddenly the "can take damage" switch was thrown. As for going around firefights... yes, there's a few instances where you can do, as long as you go far enough to reach another "safe zone" where the game stops spawning baddies magically behind you or plopping them down magically on some rooftop where they magically know exactly where you are even though they no line of sight. Actually, the plot to this game pretty much is the plot to Halo, so there you go. I can't handle when people say "clip". Movies get it wrong today too. It's not a "clip". It's a magazine. There's a difference.
shiroikaze Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 (edited) If you compare with modern warfare now it is sh*t. But back then when people were still playing quake 1 it was very good. Nah, I wouldn't say that. Modern Warfare is like a totally different beast. I can't handle when people say "clip". Movies get it wrong today too. It's not a "clip". It's a magazine. There's a difference. You can partly blame counter-strike for that too. Edited November 19, 2009 by shiroikaze
eugimon Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 I can't handle when people say "clip". Movies get it wrong today too. It's not a "clip". It's a magazine. There's a difference. Sorry, I emptied a full magazine into some guy's head and it did nothing until the magic arbitrary kill switch was flipped. better?
Gaijin Posted November 19, 2009 Posted November 19, 2009 Sorry, I emptied a full magazine into some guy's head and it did nothing until the magic arbitrary kill switch was flipped. better? Thanks
anime52k8 Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 Actually, it does. no it doesn't, every level has a fixed number of enemies. if you kill a guy, he stays dead and he's never replaced. also, belated "clip" vs. magazine RAGE.
eugimon Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 no it doesn't, every level has a fixed number of enemies. if you kill a guy, he stays dead and he's never replaced. also, belated "clip" vs. magazine RAGE. just read the player forums, everyone has noticed they still spawn enemies. The game designers only said they were working on fixing the problem, not that they eliminated it. That deduction came from fanboy writers. I know for certain they still spawn, because if you backtrack they magically re-appear again. As you hit certain areas they stop spawning enemies but until you do, they just magically appear on rooftops, in closed rooms, etc. Not on every map but in Brazil... yes, they spawn.
Scream Man Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 So started playing AC2; Its pretty good. It starts very slowly, taking awhile to build its momentum. 2 Hours of play, and i have only been in the Assassins gear about 20minutes. im at the point now where I have enough to start doing some side missions i think and wandering around. The gameplay is much more varied, and the city looks and feels great. being able to blend with moving foot traffic or go over the rooftops adds a lot of variety to the game. So far I like it way more than the first one and I liked the first one!
Vegas Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 Oh well, multiplayer is still amazingly fun. it seems like mw2 focused on the mulitplayer part and added in a campaign mode. not complaining though.
eugimon Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 it seems like mw2 focused on the mulitplayer part and added in a campaign mode. not complaining though. yeah, multiplayer wise it's a huge improvement over the already excellent MW. The new player spawn system works much better, challenge tree and leveling system is much more forgiving for beginner and casual players, the initial maps are nice and diverse... I've heard more than a few people complain about weapon balance but I haven't really seen an uber weapon myself.
bluemax151 Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 ODST has the enemies with that same crazy spatial awareness. Which is ironic because the game has no radar and you're supposed to be able to sneak around in a lot of parts instead of fighting. It's a problem basically every FPS has ever had and probably always will but it's annoying as hell. Oh my complaining about the difference between clips and mags on an anime forum It's not like it matters unless someone try's to put a "clip" in a "mag" well. Everyone knows what you mean anyway. gb2 /k/
eugimon Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 ODST has the enemies with that same crazy spatial awareness. Which is ironic because the game has no radar and you're supposed to be able to sneak around in a lot of parts instead of fighting. It's a problem basically every FPS has ever had and probably always will but it's annoying as hell. Oh my complaining about the difference between clips and mags on an anime forum It's not like it matters unless someone try's to put a "clip" in a "mag" well. Everyone knows what you mean anyway. gb2 /k/ True, but in ODST they don't start shooting at you until they actually have a LOS on you. I can think of a handful of the city maps where you enter and there's patrols but they don't all just turn around and start shooting you because it's scripted that way. And the baddies in ODST don't stop chasing you because there's some imaginary do not cross line in the middle of the map. I've had hunters chase me indoors, up the stairs and back out again. You just don't see AI like that in MW2. The baddies spawn, run to their predetermined position and start firing and in some instances, don't take any damage *until* they reach their mark. And that's really the problem with MW, that in order to make for a more cinematic sequence too many of them are heavily scripted.
Wanzerfan Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 So started playing AC2; Its pretty good. It starts very slowly, taking awhile to build its momentum. 2 Hours of play, and i have only been in the Assassins gear about 20minutes. im at the point now where I have enough to start doing some side missions i think and wandering around. The gameplay is much more varied, and the city looks and feels great. being able to blend with moving foot traffic or go over the rooftops adds a lot of variety to the game. So far I like it way more than the first one and I liked the first one! Are you talking about Armored Core 2, Ace Combat 2, or some other game altogether? Because as you can see, there are mutiple games that fall under those initials.
mikeszekely Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 Are you talking about Armored Core 2, Ace Combat 2, or some other game altogether? Because as you can see, there are mutiple games that fall under those initials. He means Assassin's Creed 2. Many games with those initials, but only one released this week.
Wanzerfan Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 He means Assassin's Creed 2. Many games with those initials, but only one released this week. I forgot about that particular IP. Excuse me while I go pull my foot out of my mouth.
CoryHolmes Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 Nom nom nom? I have a new set of Dragon Age conversations, this time between Leliana and Alistar. I'm playing a male noble who's started a romance with Morrigan, but have a high approval with Leliana. Alistar: So.... did you know that he and Morrigan have- well, y'know... Leliana: I do not engage in idle gossip, especially behind his back. Hmm. Hmmmm. Hmmmmmmm... Surely he can't be serious about her, she's a vile, untrained witch! Alistar: Now who's gossiping? Mee-ow! Leliana: I'm not doing that! You... you... you started it and now I'm ending it *huff!*
Ghost Train Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 My biggest complaint thus far about MW2 is that I feel that all weapons are equally effective - perhaps this perception will change as I go further into the special ops missions or start multiplayer (which sadly I have not had the chance to ). Like any SMG is about as good as an assault/battle rifle. For instance, in the boneyard level about 1/2 way through you are perched at the top of a large hill with a pretty good view of Makarov and Shepard's men taking each other out. I didn't have to switch to my M-14, and my MP-5!!!! could easily pick off these very very far targets. But it doesn't bother me that much, I treat the game more like an arcade game with FPS characteristics.... I mean what kind of realistic game can have you carry 500+ rounds of ammo for each of your 2 weapons. You will have to carry about 34 CLIPS . + your other gear >_> .
eugimon Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 "If I feel the need to suck on anything of yours alistair, you'll be the first to know" -morrigan
CoryHolmes Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 "If I feel the need to suck on anything of yours alistair, you'll be the first to know" -morrigan ... I need to get that convo for myself
Wanzerfan Posted November 20, 2009 Posted November 20, 2009 (edited) R. Lee Ermy has the best example describing the relationship of clips and magazines (Gotta love Mail Call). He attaches a paper clip to a periodical. His definition: "A clip helps get ammunition into the magazine." Comes from the glory days of the M1-Garand, where you had to shove a full clip of ammunition into the internal magazine of the weapon. A friend of mine has a M1-Garand. Edited November 20, 2009 by Wanzerfan
eugimon Posted November 21, 2009 Posted November 21, 2009 I get it already, by muhammed, a clip binds the ammo, a magazine is a container for the ammo for the gun
Wanzerfan Posted November 21, 2009 Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) I get it already, by muhammed, a clip binds the ammo, a magazine is a container for the ammo for the gun On a semiautomatic handgun, the clip is in the top part of the magazine. Edited November 21, 2009 by Wanzerfan
VT 1010 Posted November 21, 2009 Posted November 21, 2009 On a semiautomatic handgun, the clip is in the top part of the magazine. Um, what? Are you referring to the feed lips or the follower?
shiroikaze Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 (edited) and here comes the obligatory... It was going to get posted sooner or later Anyway, I finally reinstalled MW1 just to play multiplayer (never got to in the first place). It feels just like CoD1 except with modern weapons and alot more chaotic. Hardly any grenade spamming. I have yet to find a great community server to stay with. Anyone like to suggest a server or two? Edited November 22, 2009 by shiroikaze
Ghost Train Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 I wonder if they will ever do a CoD: ANCIENT WARFARE, with slings, arrows, fire-arrows, and crossbows (ZOMG H4X0R weapon).
JB0 Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 I wonder if they will ever do a CoD: ANCIENT WARFARE, with slings, arrows, fire-arrows, and crossbows (ZOMG H4X0R weapon). Longbow is broken. It drops knights before they can even get in sword range. This piece of crap is a disaster, when are they gonna balance it?!?!?!
eugimon Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 Longbow is broken. It drops knights before they can even get in sword range. This piece of crap is a disaster, when are they gonna balance it?!?!?! more like, short bow is broken, it has the same range as a longbow but faster rate of fire!
Gaijin Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 (edited) Longbow is broken. It drops knights before they can even get in sword range. This piece of crap is a disaster, when are they gonna balance it?!?!?! This post deserves a promotion. Edited November 22, 2009 by Gaijin
Warmaker Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 Shiroikaze, funny you mention loading up MW1 again, because I did exactly that also. Installed on my PC, patched it up, went to town. Quickly went through the SP campaign, because I can't bring myself to go multiplayer before finishing the SP campaign. Call it a habit from my days of playing Rainbow 6 and Rogue Spear back in the late 90s and 2000 Anyways, it had been a LOOONNG time since I played COD4 MW1. New rig and all, gotta unlock all the stuff again. Right now sitting on Sergeant and a few unlocks. In most FPS, I prefer assault rifles, but MW has alot of MOUT / dense terrain maps. I use heavily an MP-5 or my recently unlocked M4. The one edge MW1 and now MW2 have over other FPS (console and PC) is the attachment system. I don't care much for the perks, but I really love the idea on customizing your weapon / "Create A Class" system. MW2 from what I understand now allows 2 attachments to a weapon. I really wish more developers would adopt that basic idea for their future titles, but I haven't seen it materialize yet. So, these are the current FPS installed on my computer: BF2 (still after all these years), BF2142, Operation Flashpoint 2, and a comeback for COD4 MW. Longbow is broken. It drops knights before they can even get in sword range. This piece of crap is a disaster, when are they gonna balance it?!?!?! That's nothing. How about Mongol Horse Archer Cavalry? They ride around, keep shooting you up, never allow you to get close. But when you don't want to fight anymore, they come charging right up your a**!
Wanzerfan Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 I wonder if they will ever do a CoD: ANCIENT WARFARE, with slings, arrows, fire-arrows, and crossbows (ZOMG H4X0R weapon). They already have that. It's called OBLIVION
Ghost Train Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 (edited) They already have that. It's called OBLIVION Well that is very true but minus the magic and orcs/elves/ w/e. I was thinking more in the lines of Roman Legionnaire Captain Price fighting the invading hordes near the collapse of the Roman Empire. Instead of "GET ON TEH HUNTER VICTOR!" it would be "GET ON TEH HUNTER WHISKEY WE R LEAVING LOL" (Horse Wagon)! The mandatory sneaking mission will be implemented via a scoped long-bow with integrated silencer. Edited November 22, 2009 by Ghost Train
Wanzerfan Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 And on the topic of Dragon Age: Origins... Watch at your own risk.
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