Zentrandude Posted June 13, 2005 Posted June 13, 2005 For all m1903 owners/fans found a nice site dedicated to them. Didn't relized my rifle was made in december of 1918 it the number was any lower it would been in the dangerous batch. m1903 website
Noriko Takaya Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 My new sling, sling adapters, and M4 handguards came in today and I have them installed on my rifle as I speak. I guess I'm stuck with the Izzy flash supressor unless I get a new M4 upper. I have a question for those who are AR nuts who have used these in the field or who have had previous experience with them. Rock River Arms makes a decent sleeve which was specifically designed for the EOTech sights (See first image), but I am kind of leaning toward the A.R.M.S. sleeve (2nd image) because I like the idea of the rear sight aperture being able to fold back. There is also a $25 difference between the two. Let me know what you think.
JsARCLIGHT Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 (edited) I'm not a giant fan of optics myself, never had any when I was in the army... then again I was an elite schmuck in a truck . I learned to shoot on iron sights, shot in the army with iron sights and to this day prefer irons. If I had to pick an optic I'd go with the EOTech or the Elcan, the 'tech being half the price of an Elcan. I think it is because my eye is used to iron sights that I have a hard time using sight-through optics like the EOTech and I end up preferring sight-alone optics like the Elcan. It looks like that RRA sight rail is built for the newer EOTech that runs AA batteries, is that the 'tech you plan to get? I wonder if the older N type 'tech will mount to that base. One thing I did get a few weeks ago was an ATI digital Holosight for my Smith "muthuh" revolver and the thing is a blast to shoot (pun intended). Just like video games! My fun with that holosight has me wanting to buy a Docter holosight for my Uzi along with a custom topcover mount for it. For some reason the non-can heads up holosights I prefer to the canned red dots... but the holos are just for target practice as they'd smash like a china cup in combat. Edited June 15, 2005 by JsARCLIGHT
Cdr Fokker Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 Hey, I like the A2 grip! And I have quite small hands, too. I can barely reach the controls of a USP or a P99, even if I shift hand position, and can hardly operate an M9 or SigPro with my hands in position. Glocks are tolerable, but so wide. And forget Desert Eagles...Anyone got recommendations on that, by the way? It'll be a while until I can buy a handgun, but I'd like something I'm not fumbling with. I was thinking Sig P239? Have you tried any of the Sig 220 series? Not sure myself how well those with smaller hands deal with them (I'm the type who finds the Berettas with their larger grip circumference), but definitely worth a look. Everyone I know who I've gone shooting with has shot one of my friends' 220-series (either a P228 or P229 - basically the same anyway, IIRC its just a difference in metals used) really likes them. I myself am looking to get a P226 when I can afford it (being a college student who's into Macross and primarily a shotgunner as far as firearms are concerned, I haven't had enough "spending money" to start getting into handguns for myself that much yet) Also, if I recall correctly, there is a single stack or two in the 220 series. Isn't there a single-stack compact Glock as well? That may be something to consider. I'm not a terrible glock fan though; while good guns, I myself prefer a USP or Sig. My new sling, sling adapters, and M4 handguards came in today and I have them installed on my rifle as I speak. I guess I'm stuck with the Izzy flash supressor unless I get a new M4 upper. I have a question for those who are AR nuts who have used these in the field or who have had previous experience with them. Rock River Arms makes a decent sleeve which was specifically designed for the EOTech sights (See first image), but I am kind of leaning toward the A.R.M.S. sleeve (2nd image) because I like the idea of the rear sight aperture being able to fold back. There is also a $25 difference between the two. Let me know what you think. Are you going to stick with the standard front sight / gas block? If so, I say go with the former. Not terribly useful to have a folding rear right when your big front sight is still there. If you're going with folding sights, I'd go all the way and replace the front with a folding sight gas block too. At least that's my opinion, and I also haven't tried an AR with only a rear folding sight and optics, so it's probably not much. Regardless, EOTechs are the way to go.
Noriko Takaya Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 It looks like that RRA sight rail is built for the newer EOTech that runs AA batteries, is that the 'tech you plan to get? I wonder if the older N type 'tech will mount to that base. Yeah, I was planning on getting the EOTech 552 HDS with the AA battery capability since the N type batteries are kind of a pain to come by and more expensive. Plus, the AA version's battery output lasts longer. As for whether the N type sight will fit the sleeve, it should. It's a tad bit shorter in length than the AA. Like you, I am used to iron sights, and am pretty good at using them (Qualified as Rifle Expert 2 times while in the Corps, the other two were sharpshooter), but I am wanting to try something new, which is why I got my new carbine with the A3 upper. And on another subject, I really don't have a problem if my front sight post is in the way. I just like the option of moving the rear sight down to use the optics and popping it back up to go to the iron sights.
Duke Togo Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 Jesus, this is the first time I have looked at this thread in ages. Whats up with all the guns, you guys starting your own MW militia? I wonder if the FBI or ATF follow this thread...
Noriko Takaya Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 Jesus, this is the first time I have looked at this thread in ages. Whats up with all the guns, you guys starting your own MW militia? I wonder if the FBI or ATF follow this thread... Just for you: NEW FBI CRIME REPORTS REINFORCE GUN OWNERSHIP SUPPORTERS ALBANY, NY -- (06/13/2005; 1400)(EIS) -- Recently released FBI crime data validates statements by gun ownership advocates that last year's expiration of the so-called "assault weapons ban" would not impact crime and may, in fact, help improve community safety. According to an FBI report, the national homicide rate has declined for the first time since 1999. The report shows that homicides declined 5.4 percent in cities with more than 1 million people and overall murder rates dropped 3.6 percent. "I think this justifies our statements that the expiration of the ban would not have a negative impact on crime in this country or in New York," said Tom King, President of the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association. When the ten year old ban on certain semiautomatic firearms expired last September, gun control advocates and media outlets warned of increases in violence, especially against children. "Unfortunately, those same people trying to draw the connection between crime and gun ownership have apparently stopped trying to make such a connection public. And, apparently the media is not as concerned with publicizing these truths." said King. "Violent crime has decreased since the weapon ban expired. What can be more telling than that?" You hear that? Crime went down. Everyone out there get MORE guns! By the way, I now have a set of handguards used on the shorter CAR and M4 type carbine rifles. These are not the larger M4 handguards. PM me if you want to buy them. Or if you have something to trade...
Duke Togo Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 I don't have a problem with gun ownership, its just some of you guys are starting to scare me.
Noriko Takaya Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 I don't have a problem with gun ownership, its just some of you guys are starting to scare me. No, we are the sane ones. Those guys on the Mylene pedophilia forums are the scary ones.
JsARCLIGHT Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 While I revel in my hobbies some people don't see firearm ownership or sport shooting as a "good" hobby to have. Thus I try to keep my firearm ownership secret from people I personally know for just this reason. Folks overreact when they see my collection in it's entirety. They see a "normal" person... and then they see a gun safe with enough hardware to topple a small country and an ammo stash that looks like the armory at Fort Benning. I know that owning as many firearms as I do freaks a lot of people out... heck it freaks me out sometimes. In the end it's a hobby just like collecting toys, but the dark side is tha these toys can kill. It takes a lot more maturity and responsability to own firearms... and a lot of gun owners don't posess either thus we all get a bad rap from the screwups. Just like how everyone thinks every Star Trek fan lives in their Mom's basement wearing Spock ears and every Anime fan likes tenticle porn and underage girls everyone thinks "gun stockpilers" (as they call us) are up to no good, plotting world domination or worse. But most of us are law abiding citizens... heck, I have the federal background checks and ATF investigations to prove it! (You have to be cleaner than tilex to pass a Form 4) ... and I have a torn out of a notebook piece of paper written in crayon with many spelling errors and poor punctuation stating the same, complete with crude drawing of me standing on the world with an AR in each had saying "mine, all mine".
Noriko Takaya Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 It takes a lot more maturity and responsability to own firearms... and a lot of gun owners don't posess either thus we all get a bad rap from the screwups. Word. I have a friend or two who I would never trust to hold a firearm, even if I personally checked to see if it was unloaded. I have to make sure my safe is locked up nice and tight when they come over.
Lynx7725 Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 Most of the post I read here are about mods to weapons, increasing reliability, optionals, discussing rep etc. Nothing really different from a car discussion really, is it? I see no issues there. But if we ever get around to talking about stopping power, ballistics of bullets over absurd distances, how to conduct proper suppressive fire, breaching and entering -- then yeah, I would get concerned. Frankly, the discussion here is not much different from say those in the Toys section about modding a Valk. Both Valk and gun (and car!) can kill if used correctly.. JsArclight -- just how many do you own?
kalvasflam Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 Just curious, has anyone ever used a P90 before? I've seen a lot of specs and pics, and it looks like a sweat gun. Anyone knowledgable about that one?
Noriko Takaya Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 Just curious, has anyone ever used a P90 before? I've seen a lot of specs and pics, and it looks like a sweat gun. Anyone knowledgable about that one? Try reading through the thread. Someone around here has fired one of the things before. I'm pretty sure JsARCLIGHT has fired one; I seem to remember his views on the weapon were kind of so-so. But I could be wrong.
Noriko Takaya Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 (edited) Just curious, has anyone ever used a P90 before? I've seen a lot of specs and pics, and it looks like a sweat gun. Anyone knowledgable about that one? Ooops! Double post! Edited June 15, 2005 by Noriko Takaya
JsARCLIGHT Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 (edited) JsArclight -- just how many do you own? Short answer without giving an actual number: a lot. I've been buying firearms on and off, trading and selling and buying new ones for going on a good ten years straight now. I own a few in every category, carbines, rifles, pistols, one SMG, two sniper rifles, a few shotguns and on and on and on. Also it should be noted that a few of them are my wife's firearms... we keep them in the same safe so they look more impressive. Seeing as the number in my collection varies from month to month I look on it in a dollar value rather than hard numbers. My current collection is insured for $30K if that gives you any indication... but bear in mind that my UZI alone is around an $8K weapon and my PSG1 is about $9 1/2K. Edited June 15, 2005 by JsARCLIGHT
JsARCLIGHT Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 Just curious, has anyone ever used a P90 before? I've seen a lot of specs and pics, and it looks like a sweat gun. Anyone knowledgable about that one? I myself did not shoot one but saw one demonstrated for the SLCPD. I think I posted about it in this thread somewhere... I'll have to go back and try to find it when I get a chance.
UN_MARINE Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 (edited) I was told the P90 couldn't operate too well in hot climates. The story goes... It was presented to the local law enforcement brass (asian country) as a 'potential replacement gun'. they went over to a firing range on a very hot day, & the general at the camp emptied the 50 round mag in 1 pull. after 50 rounds, the receiver had overheated & caused the gun to lock up. This was told by a friend who's got roots in the military, so it's 'pretty much' credible. then again... this is the same guy that said the local air force pilots use barrel rolls to shut non-working landing gear on certain planes... Edited June 15, 2005 by UN_MARINE
JsARCLIGHT Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 I have not heard of any heat related reliability issues with the P90. From what I saw at the demo here for our guys, the P90 ran flawlessly. I'm not sure how simple environmental heat (which usually does not go above 110) could cause receiver issues. The principal receiver and breech assembly of the P90 are forged metal that would not warp or distort under the pressures of firing so I don't see how climate heat would affect them. I have heard however that if you leave the loaded magazines out in the sun the heat can cause warping of the polymer magazine body which may result in a poor fit in the weapon when inserted... but even that would not cause stoppage issues.
UN_MARINE Posted June 15, 2005 Posted June 15, 2005 (edited) I see... I guess it's another one of my friend's 'mostly true' stories. that, and he's not really a fan of polymer frame guns... The local armed forces have a couple of polymer guns here & there, hell, I've even seen a FA-MAS G2 being carried by the police! but MOSTLY surplus M16's / AR15's. I guess in the end, 2nd hand guns are much more economical, maybe that's why they just dismissed the P90. what a shame... Then again, dumping 50 rounds is hazardous (on both ends of the gun) Edited June 15, 2005 by UN_MARINE
Noriko Takaya Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Well, here it is, my Bushie M4-gery all souped up as of right now. All things are subject to change in the future. The sling is Specter Gear's SOP deployment rig, which I am finding will work out pretty good. I also went ahead and got the RRA EOTech sight rail, and the EOTech 552-AA HDS to go with it. I still have one more sling adapter to get, which will go on the telestock, so I will be moving the sling down to that adapter when it arrives. So, as of now, I can't wait to take it to the range to get it zeroed out.
CoryHolmes Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Any more news or new pictures of that civilian P90? I keep trying to convince my family that it would be an appropriate Christmas present
Commander McBride Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Wow, beautiful M4! Really makes me wish I wasn't in California.... Is it pretty much done? I would have considered putting a RIS on it, but maybe that's the airsofter in me talking. Still, I do like to have a vert foregrip if I can. Be nice to have a Surefire M900 on there, maybe a PEQ, too.
bsu legato Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 Any more news or new pictures of that civilian P90? I keep trying to convince my family that it would be an appropriate Christmas present Count on it being prohibited in Kanuckistan, Cory. There's no way in hell the Liberal gov't would want that in the hands of any law abiding citizen.
JsARCLIGHT Posted June 16, 2005 Posted June 16, 2005 From what I have been hearing that civilian P90 may have it's first production run all accounted for soon. People are pre-ordering them like crazy on many sites and from a lot of distributors who claim to have them on order. Heck, the price of the 50 round magazines alone have skyrocketed in the last few months due to anticipation of the civilian version... and it is still unconfirmed if the civvie P90 will take the same mags as the SMG (many sources are saying no). But then again the civvie P90 is still in design right now and has yet to pass BATF for manufacture and sale in the US. Add to that the increasing threat that states and possibly the fed will ban the 5.7mm round (in any capacity) in the near future and the civvie P90 may die before it sees the streets. Plus from a purely cost standpoint who wants to spend $18+ on a box of 50 bullets anyway for a carbine? I burn through ammo like crap through a goose and my firearms that cost more than $15 for a box of 50 bullets stay on the shelf for a long time. I personally cannot justify going to the range and dumping $18+ on one magazine of ammo. That's rediculous. IMHO that is why you should ignore the civilian P90 and get the civilian F2000 instead. 5.56 ammo grows on trees in the US practically and the F2000 will take AR mags (of which I have boxes). $18 gets me about 150 rounds of AR ammo (or 5+ mags). ... plus the civvie P90 looks like ass with that giant barrel sticking out of the front.
Noriko Takaya Posted June 17, 2005 Posted June 17, 2005 Wow, beautiful M4! Really makes me wish I wasn't in California....Is it pretty much done? I would have considered putting a RIS on it, but maybe that's the airsofter in me talking. Still, I do like to have a vert foregrip if I can. Be nice to have a Surefire M900 on there, maybe a PEQ, too. I considered putting a grip on the front, but since the carbine is semi-auto only, I felt I didn't need it. I've got a tactical light for my USP .45, but I am not a big fan of it. I don't think I would get one for my rifle.
CoryHolmes Posted June 17, 2005 Posted June 17, 2005 Add to that the increasing threat that states and possibly the fed will ban the 5.7mm round (in any capacity) in the near future and the civvie P90 may die before it sees the streets. 5.56 ammo grows on trees in the US practically and the F2000 will take AR mags (of which I have boxes). $18 gets me about 150 rounds of AR ammo (or 5+ mags). ... plus the civvie P90 looks like ass with that giant barrel sticking out of the front. What's the difference between a 5.7mm round and a 5.56mm round that would make the former bannable? And yes, it does look ass, but a simple hacksaw should fix that Count on it being prohibited in Kanuckistan, Cory. There's no way in hell the Liberal gov't would want that in the hands of any law abiding citizen. That doesn't stop me from wanting one
JsARCLIGHT Posted June 17, 2005 Posted June 17, 2005 What's the difference between a 5.7mm round and a 5.56mm round that would make the former bannable? I guess you have not seen all the hullabaloo in congress and in many state governments in the US over the "horrible and child killing armor piercing capacity" of the FN 5.7 round. It started with the FN Five seveN pistol and has only gotten worse in some parts of the country. Legislators are touting the things as "jacket breaker" and "cop killer" weapons and munitions... along with the .50 cal rifles. They technically are right that the original FN 5.7 armor piercing round did indeed go through body armor as that is what it was intended to do... but the "training ammo" version of the bullets that have been for sale in the states to civilians where almost akin to a .22 magnum in their power. Civilians cannot buy the true armor piercing 5.7 ammo and it is heavily controlled still. In a nutshell, the scare over the 5.7mm round is manufactured. People started applying names to it like "cop killer" and "armor breaker" and the American public, not being known to actually research something, take the media's and their congressman's word for it that these guns will instantly show up on their streets in the hands of drug dealers and pimps and start shooting police at random.
Warmaker Posted June 17, 2005 Posted June 17, 2005 I prefer my weapons fairly simple. Iron sights, a simple sling, and uncluttered. Is that old fashioned? Maybe it was because of the training when I joined the USMC. Even today, namely due to my occupation, I've never had optics or fancy schmancy gear for my M16. The configuaration's been the same since I joined the Corps in '93. And I'm comfortable and more importantly, extremely confident with my Rifle. Even though I'm not a grunt.
Noriko Takaya Posted June 17, 2005 Posted June 17, 2005 I prefer my weapons fairly simple.Iron sights, a simple sling, and uncluttered. Is that old fashioned? Maybe it was because of the training when I joined the USMC. Even today, namely due to my occupation, I've never had optics or fancy schmancy gear for my M16. The configuaration's been the same since I joined the Corps in '93. And I'm comfortable and more importantly, extremely confident with my Rifle. Even though I'm not a grunt. Oh, I still have my full size AR-15, and fire it religiously. And my training in the Corps went back further than yours to 1983, so I am kind of old fashioned too. Hell, I love my M1 Garand. I just wanted something different, and different is what I got. I'm happy with my new toy. Hopefully I can take it to my buddy's farm this Saturday and BZO it. However, the little woman has things to do on her mind, and that may not happen.
Commander McBride Posted June 17, 2005 Posted June 17, 2005 I personally like the fancy stuff on small guns, and simple on long arms. Reflex sights, foregrips, custom stocks, etc, can all be useful in CQB. For a rifle, though, I leave things mostly stock, the only possible modification being a good optical scope, like an ACOG, if it's needed for the situation.
Noriko Takaya Posted July 14, 2005 Posted July 14, 2005 (edited) Wow, beautiful M4! Really makes me wish I wasn't in California....Is it pretty much done? I would have considered putting a RIS on it, but maybe that's the airsofter in me talking. Still, I do like to have a vert foregrip if I can. Be nice to have a Surefire M900 on there, maybe a PEQ, too. 307064[/snapback] Just because you wanted it, here you go. I added this just last week. Edited July 14, 2005 by Noriko Takaya
JsARCLIGHT Posted July 14, 2005 Posted July 14, 2005 That's a nice M4gery. So how does the 'Tech shoot? Are you liking the look-through?
Noriko Takaya Posted July 14, 2005 Posted July 14, 2005 That's a nice M4gery. So how does the 'Tech shoot? Are you liking the look-through? 310477[/snapback] Actually, I am very pleased with it. It took a while to get used to the two-eyes open method of shooting since I've used iron sights all my life and my left eye just has a habit of closing when I look through a sight. And the damn thing is accurate too. I had to do very little (and I mean very little) zeroing on it since the sights are adjusted at the factory. As for the iron sights, I had to do a lot of work getting those zeroed. I last heard Bushmaster was having indexing problems because they overtorqued the barrels. I fortunately got one of the barrels that was fine. The sling I got for it was also a good purchasing decision and well worth the $37 I spent for it. And I do find that I like the foregrip as well. That and the underforearm rail I got from GG & G was well worth it. Hell, I may just ditch the shotgun I use for home defense and use this instead, but then I do not want to have lead flying through my walls into the street. Maybe some type of frangible ammunition? The Silverado Gun Show is this weekend in Upper Marlboro, Maryland, and I'm going to go for a few hours to see what I can get. Basically all I'm looking for this time around is a M7 bayonet to replace the one I lost.
Noriko Takaya Posted July 20, 2005 Posted July 20, 2005 Well, got my new bayonet, but the gun show sucked this time around. Not as many vendors there as in times past, and not a very large selection. I also managed to cart off 2 ammo cans of 5.56mm for my AR's and 1 can of 30.06 for my M1 at a fairly decent price, so I'll have plenty of ammo to last me for a while.
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