kensei Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Holy Jesus, this company's first effort at a transformable toy will be a ride armor? That has disaster written all over it... although I hope to God I'm wrong. Was Toynami's version 1/10 or 1/12? It's the same size standing as a Toynami Alpha in Battloid. EDIT - Those bastids have the 1/72 Japanese version of the Gakken Legioss I want in their display. SaveRobotech, go steal it for me! Toynami's efforts are those of amateurs as well. So the difference will be hardly noticable if it doesn't work out.
do not disturb Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 more good news! more competition usually means better toys...or atleast one would hope. i'll wait to hear the good word after they come out before making any rash decisions.
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 (edited) I just found this pic of that "Vince" version among my junk. The file name says "devastator", I don't remember where I got it from, but it was a looooong time ago. You sure it's a Robotech design? Edited March 27, 2007 by Lonely Soldier Boy
jenius Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 (edited) I'm wrong Edited March 27, 2007 by jenius
Jasonc Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 What I'm thinking is that this could very well be a distribution type deal. What leads me to think so is that the scales are the same, and the number of versions coming out are the same. Beagle says 4 versions, Toynami has 4 versions. As for reasons they wouldn't have prototype pics is probably because Toynami hasn't approved their prototype pics as of yet, and they are waiting for that to send to them. Late 4th quarter release of the Toynami toys would mean a release in 2008 for Beagle in a distribution, as Toynami would get them first, then approve shipping from the factory to the Japanese distributor. If not, then this is gonna be one interesting business move for Beagle, as they are doing a toy that is already in production, albeit, from another company in another country. It's still a strange move if that's the case.
Roger Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 It's happened before, though. Epoch imported the Toynami Super-Poseable Alphas into Japan and they were released at roughly the same time.
lord_breetai Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 I just found this pic of that "Vince" version among my junk. The file name says "devastator", I don't remember where I got it from, but it was a looooong time ago. You sure it's a Robotech design? Hmm... I think it looks a little bit different. I never watched all of MOSPEADA but I didn't remember it showing up in the original series AFAIK. Could have been an unused design maybe?
JsARCLIGHT Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 I've never seen that design outside of Robotech, I've always assumed it was a Robotech creation.
Totoro242 Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 I just found this pic of that "Vince" version among my junk. The file name says "devastator", I don't remember where I got it from, but it was a looooong time ago. You sure it's a Robotech design? The chest is the same as this design but thats about it. Tommy Yune definately uses unused concept art in his new stuff. He has used a few other designs in the Invasion game and comic including elements of the Devastator ride armor in the video game. He also uses the name for a ride armor, but the ride armor doesnt look like this
EXO Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 I just found this pic of that "Vince" version among my junk. The file name says "devastator", I don't remember where I got it from, but it was a looooong time ago. You sure it's a Robotech design? I've never seen that design outside of Robotech, I've always assumed it was a Robotech creation. Nope... not robotech. I scanned that from my artmic bible book. long ago in a MWforum far far away.
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) That means it's not HG exclusive. That's good news tho' I doubt Beagle or any other company releases this version any time soon. It'd make a nice custom project tho' Edit: Hey, EXO. Can you post a bigger picture of that ride armor? Maybe I'll do that custom some day. Edited March 28, 2007 by Lonely Soldier Boy
EXO Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 just because Toynami isnt making them doesn't mean that HG isn't involved... I guess we'll see when that Legioss and Beta comes out.
Save Posted March 28, 2007 Author Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) What I'm thinking is that this could very well be a distribution type deal. What leads me to think so is that the scales are the same, and the number of versions coming out are the same. Beagle says 4 versions, Toynami has 4 versions. As for reasons they wouldn't have prototype pics is probably because Toynami hasn't approved their prototype pics as of yet, and they are waiting for that to send to them. Late 4th quarter release of the Toynami toys would mean a release in 2008 for Beagle in a distribution, as Toynami would get them first, then approve shipping from the factory to the Japanese distributor. If not, then this is gonna be one interesting business move for Beagle, as they are doing a toy that is already in production, albeit, from another company in another country. It's still a strange move if that's the case. On the last day of TAF I talked to the director of Beagle, well with help from a translator that is. We talked a bit about Toynami, and they where only aware of the Alpha and not the Cyclones. They didn't even know about RTTSC either. They say that they are fans of Mospeada, and many other Japanese fans want new Mospeada toys. Not really a strange move, because if Toynami's version comes to Japan they will cost 3 times more than the US retail price since it will be an import, until they go on clearance 4 years later. Plus I'll be happy to see the Japanese Mospeada toys in boxes that actually represent whats inside the box. Edited March 28, 2007 by SaveRobotech
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 (edited) I hope they are not just toynami distributors. The more versions of the cyclone/ride armor we get, the better. They could steal idea off each other to make the best ride armor possible. Edited March 28, 2007 by 1/1 LowViz Lurker
Fort Max Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 On the last day of TAF I talked to the director of Beagle, well with help from a translator that is. We talked a bit about Toynami, and they where only aware of the Alpha and not the Cyclones. They didn't even know about RTTSC either. They say that they are fans of Mospeada, and many other Japanese fans want new Mospeada toys. Not really a strange move, because if Toynami's version comes to Japan they will cost 3 times more than the US retail price since it will be an import, until they go on clearance 4 years later. Plus I'll be happy to see the Japanese Mospeada toys in boxes that actually represent whats inside the box. Great news, thanks Save Robotech.
JsARCLIGHT Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 Nope... not robotech. I scanned that from my artmic bible book. long ago in a MWforum far far away. So it actually was an unused design? Wow... it totally clashes with the feel and flow of the other Ride Armors. I can see why they left it on the cutting room floor.
Jasonc Posted March 28, 2007 Posted March 28, 2007 Save Robotech, thanks for the update. By strange, I meant that they are all coming out roughly around the same time. It'll be nice to see variations of the two, and figure out which one is better. Either way, I would love to still see swappable heads. As for the So it actually was an unused design? Wow... it totally clashes with the feel and flow of the other Ride Armors. I can see why they left it on the cutting room floor. It is an unused design by the original artists. There are tons of those designs that were never used, like the space armor. Unfortunately, that never made it either. Tommy's design is based off that Artmic picture, from what many have thought and perceived, but it is somewhat original. Only using the rail gun looking piece, it's been redesigned as well. Both versions look quite good.
konimon Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 (edited) I am not sure this needs it's own thread, but I've stumbled upon an update scan from the Megahouse Ride Armor. I think this is discussed at Aoshima Legioss or cm tread thread. This is not the Beagle one, but it is much smaller 13cm tall. Tiny? Well, someone make a jumbo in-scale Legioss like old matchbox then my quest for Mospeada toy is over (beside invids i guess...). Megahouse isn't receiving warm welcome from Japanese fans, but hey, I see a nice Ride Armor here. This features retractable thruster fin. Text says joints will be different and visor will be made of clear part. Oh, 60mm beam cannon will be included too. Edited May 23, 2007 by konimon
Ignacio Ocamica Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 Thanks for the scan!!! The sculpt looks great. It's in my buy list
yellowlightman Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 13cm is a little small for my liking, but it looks good.
danth Posted May 23, 2007 Posted May 23, 2007 It looks gorgeous, and I like the size. I hope it's cheap enough for me to buy lots. Looks better than the Toynami for sure.
promethuem5 Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 13cm is a good solid size for a nice playable figure, and the sculpt looks amazing...
jenius Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 I wonder where the front shock absorbers go. Probably under the gauntlets but it doesn't seem to show them.
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 Oh, man. This could be the ride armor I was waiting for, looks very dinamic in sculpt and poseability and the size doesn't bother me at all.
drifand Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 13cm for the Megahouse MOSPEADA would make it about 1/15 scale... approx the same as Bandai's TransArmor Kamen Rider figures. I think the scuplt looks good but since the design is inherently top-heavy, the toy will either need hips-of-steel or at least a bit of metal in the lower legs for stability. Is that likely from Megahouse? The scan only says ABS/PVC...
Sebastian Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 Well, considering the size maybe in ABS can hold the weight and even pose. Anyways, the sculpt looks GREAT. I am toatlly getting one as long as they dont make it 80% PVC and 20% ABS. That would be horrible.
UN Spacy Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 I've never heard of Beagle but if they release a quality product I'll pick it up.
1/1 LowViz Lurker Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 Looks good. Can the figure support the weight of the stuff hanging off the back?
ShadowerV2 Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 Thanks for the scan!!! The sculpt looks great. It's in my buy list Yeap. That thing is on my to get list too! Now all we need is a painted prototype.
eugimon Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 wow... I'm passing on the toynami ride armor but this looks pretty darn good. I just hope it can hold a pose.
EXO Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 13cm = 6" that's 1/12 scale... that's pretty good. Looks good so far. treads on rubber tires would be nice though.
Fort Max Posted May 24, 2007 Posted May 24, 2007 Is this the same one we saw in last months scanned page, under the CM's jets? It's very impressive regardless, even more so at such a small size. Beagles one will need to have more then just extra shelf presence to beat this.
Recommended Posts