Ignacio Ocamica Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 February is going to be a very expensive month for us Mospeada fans
protostar8 Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 (edited) HOLY CRAP!!! 6300Yen for those tiny ass things!!! CM loses my money on that one. It looks cool, but that size and the lack of other accessories (not included with MegaHouse's), etc. doesn't justify the price tag. Maybe though that's the price for a set or something. Makes me think that the Tread/Legioss is going to be WAY overpriced, like more overpriced than Toynami's Beta is going to be. Edited November 21, 2007 by protostar8
eriku Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 CMs toys are always really expensive, so it shouldn't really come as a surprise that their Ride Armors are $60+. I'm guessing the Legioss & Beta combo will be around $250.
protostar8 Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 CMs toys are always really expensive, so it shouldn't really come as a surprise that their Ride Armors are $60+. I'm guessing the Legioss & Beta combo will be around $250. Then I won't be getting that either. What the hell happened to reasonably priced toys like Transformers in Japan to make the current toys so expensive?
eriku Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 I think the deal with CMs is that they are a considerably smaller company than the likes of Bandai, Takara, Medicom, and even Yamato, and also haven't been in the toy-making game for as long. As more of a 'specialty' company, they have a higher manufacturing cost and have more at stake financially than those larger companies do. And since CM's likes to make relatively high-quality toys, that raises the price a bit too. That said, I typically can't afford CMs toys. I can understand why they cost what they do, but it is a bit of a bummer. If the legioss/Tread is over $200 I can't realistically see myself buying it. I wont even buy Yamato valks anymore because the cost has gone higher than I'm willing to pay.
Phyrox Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 The things that I don't like about the CM one are: 1.) The small cockpit area. It's just not proportional to the rest of the body. 2.) The exposed shoulder area that makes it look like a piece of the arm is missing in fighter mode. 3.) The way the missiles sit way above the fighter in fighter mode. Those are precisely the problems I have with the Tread as well. If it is as overpriced as those ride-armors though, they can count me out in all likelihood. I love Mospeada mecha, but I don't pay that kind of money for toys.
protostar8 Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 Those are precisely the problems I have with the Tread as well. If it is as overpriced as those ride-armors though, they can count me out in all likelihood. I love Mospeada mecha, but I don't pay that kind of money for toys. To be honest, it would be a stretch for me to pay $150 for the Tread/Legioss set. I just can't justify spending that kind of money on single toys anymore (especially with things like video games and local toys like Transformers Animated right around the corner, not to mention Classics 2.0 that will cost a small fraction of what a single japanese toy does).
Alpha OTS Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 I had heard this rumored sometime back, but this is the first I've seen a pre-order: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product...mp;picture=aux2 It's the Aoshima Alpha, which is Toynami's Alpha but with some extra missiles and a missile battery accessory. What's Aoshima's reputation for QC? Or is Aoshima just another word for Toynami?
protostar8 Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 (edited) I had heard this rumored sometime back, but this is the first I've seen a pre-order: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product...mp;picture=aux2 It's the Aoshima Alpha, which is Toynami's Alpha but with some extra missiles and a missile battery accessory. What's Aoshima's reputation for QC? Or is Aoshima just another word for Toynami? I'm not trying to be mean, but the thread to discuss those is on page 2 of this section of the forums. Here's a link to the thread. http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=22156 Edited November 21, 2007 by protostar8
Alpha OTS Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 I'm not trying to be mean, but the thread to discuss those is on page 2 of this section of the forums. Here's a link to the thread. http://macrossworld.com/mwf/index.php?showtopic=22156 The Toynami Alphas were also *actively* being discussed here. Thank you for correcting me.
eriku Posted November 21, 2007 Posted November 21, 2007 I had heard this rumored sometime back, but this is the first I've seen a pre-order: http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product...mp;picture=aux2 It's the Aoshima Alpha, which is Toynami's Alpha but with some extra missiles and a missile battery accessory. What's Aoshima's reputation for QC? Or is Aoshima just another word for Toynami? Avoid at all costs. The majority of reports that have been coming in for the Aoshima release have been that it's even worse than Toynami's release.
Save Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) Somebody on Mixi posted these pics they are the same ones I saw the day before yesterday at the hobby event. Only difference was the Legioss had the sword accessory in its hand. I'm just itching to get one, after being burned by my aoshima purchase. Edited November 22, 2007 by SaveRobotech
promethuem5 Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Well, I'm pretty much sold... those are great looking.
jenius Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Argh, while black might be great for showing mold problems it sure doesn't photograph well!! Ooh can't wait for color prototype pics.
SuperHobo Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Well, I'm pretty much sold... those are great looking. WoW the Legioss looks beautiful in solider mode! Nice and the Legioss connects to the Tread!!! WOOT. The chest area looks too be slightly larger and looks overall much better. In fighter mode the nose is MUCH shorter. Is that better or worse? Tread looks pretty good, but I'd like too see more of it in fighter mode. I think the Legioss' fighter mode still looks kinda funny, but solider mode looks great. Oh man this is going to cost at least $200-$250. Oh lord please be a reasonable price for these beauties. Please stop killing me with these prices for the toys of my dreams. In addition considering how CM likes too use a nice amount of die cast in their toys I wonder how much will be in these two bad boys.
EXO Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 can't really tell... kinda looks good, but look how close together the arms are in fighter mode.
Phyrox Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Until I see the Tread in Armo-Bomber mode I can't say for sure, but it looks alright. And the Legioss looks, well...worse. Maybe the long nose it used to have (which I sorta liked) distracted from the "brick with stub wings" that the rest of the Armo-Fighter mode has going on, but it doesn't look so good. It could be the lighting, but now I think we can see why the nose used to be so long; to distract the eye from the armored ball made up of the legs and arms.
Arthurius Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Well, i hope they make a Black one like that. SaveRobotech, the picture is kinda small, do you have it in bigger size??
malakite Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Oh man.... Feb's gonna hurt like a mother.......... I suppose I could live on bread and water for the next 2 or 3 months.......
Ignacio Ocamica Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) It's beautiful I'm sold on both the Legioss and Tread. Soldier mode is awesome. I think this set could turn out to be my favorite toy!!! It's a great time to be a mospeada fan Edited November 22, 2007 by Ignacio Ocamica
EXO Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 hmmm... same CMS stands on the ride armors as macross stuff, hehe. Looks badass! still can't get over how close the arms are together in fighter, now that the pics are clearer.
eyesonme78 Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 i like thread's design and such. plus i think CM corp will make a better design perhaps for legioss and thread in terms of durability and quality. Toynami's design is nice in static but i think not durable in playing.. Overall i will get CM corp's stuff. Cyclone most prob.. i thinki i will get mega house as it's better design overall in looks not so plastic.. i dun like plastic look hahhaa..
jenius Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Yeah, the Legioss looks cool but off. The combined fighter also looks off... like the legioss is sitting too far in front of the Tread instead of nestled into it. The missiles on the Tread look really impressive though Man, I better start unloading some Yamato stuff.
SuperHobo Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Holy mother of god where are all of these badass pictures coming from?
malakite Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Ya know........I actually like it in the all black color scheme..... call me strange....
SuperHobo Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Call me crazy,but the more I look at it the fighter mode is looking better and better . Nice too see both of them get nicely detailed cockpits. Missiles and detail look top notch, miles better than Toynami's strap on missiles. Sure the whole think looks a little off. but heck with all the nice details and gimmicks and hopeful CM sturdiness all of these faults can be forgiven. Hmm now to fork out $200-$300.
CoryHolmes Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 That Legioss still has the mosquito-like nose, and the Soldier mode still looks like someone put it in a vice and stretched it out. It doesn't look terrible, mind you, but not something that I'm going to spend vast amounts of money on.
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Looks great though the Armo fighter mode does look inaccurate. Still, if its durable and holds position well, I will probably pick it up. The TLEAD looks great. I only wish the article mentioned an estimated msrp.
Mog Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) Guys, can we hush up about price for just a bit?! There's still no definitive word on how solid and tight the Legioss' and Tread's joints will be. (Except for that beautiful pic near the bottom of VF5SS' post where the Tread is defiantly raising both arms parallel to the ground! ) We still don't know whether the Legioss' legs collapse in like the Toynami version or if they fold and flare out to the sides. Nor have we seen the Tread in bomber mode without the landing gear and connection piece in place. And most important of all, we still haven't seen the Legioss-Tread fighter combo from a side profile view. No doubt, I love what I'm seeing now. But I still gotta see how flush and in-line that Legioss-Tread connection is before I crown CM's the all-out winner of this "Build a Tread/Beta" contest. CM's picked some good camera angles to show off their products. But I still need to see a few more angles and views before I can pass judgement. Edited November 22, 2007 by Mog
protostar8 Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) The Toynami Alphas were also *actively* being discussed here. Thank you for correcting me. I didn't mean any harshness towards you. Sorry. I think the Tread/Legioss look okay. Definitely a unique take on the designs. I'd buy them if they were reasonably priced (I know I've said that a lot lately), but I just don't see it happening now that I see the final designs and gimmicks. I guess it's back to trying to make my own out of paper/paper to connect to my Crapnami Alpha. Also, the last pic in the bottom right of the big advertisement makes the head of the cyclone rider look HUGE. Look how much more helmet there is after his face ends. The picture next to that one also makes the helmet look way out of proportion compared to the non-armored body. And those just really don't look worthy of the price tag w/ that "plastic" look. They just look like cheap toys you might get for $30-ish bucks, not double that. Edited November 22, 2007 by protostar8
jenius Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Wow, I just noticed, look how low the nosecone dangles in armo-soldier mode. I guess that's a compromise for a better fighter mode.
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 I'm getting the combo just for the TREAD. Armo Fighter looks seriously off. I really hope that the legs are mistransformed on those pictures. Otherwise I dunno...
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 Wow, I just noticed, look how low the nosecone dangles in armo-soldier mode. I guess that's a compromise for a better fighter mode. I don't see how such a big nose makes for a better Fighter mode. The Legioss has an average to short nosecone in the lineart and looks good. Heck, even the Gakken looks good and it has a really short nose.
Mog Posted November 22, 2007 Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) One thing you gotta hand to CM's design is they made a working cockpit for the Tread that hides perfectly when the Tread is in soldier mode. .......Now, just to get everyone comparing the two prototypes: OLD PROTOTYPE (top half of picture): NEW PROTOTYPE: Major thanks to the folks (Lynx7725 and VF5SS) who originally posted these two pics earlier in this Tread thread! Edited November 22, 2007 by Mog
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