chowyunskinny Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 (edited) Umm... he was always Lt. Falcon... even in the movie... count the number of times he was addressed by rank. There is No Lt. on the front of the original figure, which according to David, matched the movie perfectly and if it doesn't match the movie, it isn't Falcon. That was what I was referring to. Like how Flash is now Sgt. Flash. And no, I won't count the number of times in the movie because I don't own it. For me the movie was where G.I. Joe started to suck and never quite recovered. The Intro was great though. Edited June 23, 2008 by chowyunskinny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_breetai Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 There is No Lt. on the front of the original figure, which according to David, matched the movie perfectly and if it doesn't match the movie, it isn't Falcon. That was what I was referring to. Like how Flash is now Sgt. Flash. And no, I won't count the number of times in the movie because I don't own it. For me the movie was where G.I. Joe started to suck and never quite recovered. The Intro was great though. I didn't expect you to litterally count... But I think it's a rights issue probably. Same reason why it's Nemesis the Immortal, Spirit Iron Knife, G.I. Joe Hawk etc etc etc... but he was always a Lt. and he was called by his rank much more often then other characters like Duke (how come Lt. Falcon kept getting bossed around by two Sgts anyway). The cartoon was all downhill from the movie anyway, I mean the DiC episodes were just gross. But yes the intro is the best part of the GI Joe movie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowyunskinny Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 (edited) I didn't expect you to litterally count... But I think it's a rights issue probably. Same reason why it's Nemesis the Immortal, Spirit Iron Knife, G.I. Joe Hawk etc etc etc... but he was always a Lt. and he was called by his rank much more often then other characters like Duke (how come Lt. Falcon kept getting bossed around by two Sgts anyway). The cartoon was all downhill from the movie anyway, I mean the DiC episodes were just gross. But yes the intro is the best part of the GI Joe movie... no worries, was just trying to differentiate between the original figure and the new comic 2 pack figure on a technicality so that our resident color obsessed mod can lower his blood pressure a little bit Edited June 23, 2008 by chowyunskinny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Um, I was just abbreviating. I consider his "full" codename to be Lieutenant Falcon. But that's a lot longer to type and harder to spell. Same for General Hawk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_breetai Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Um, I was just abbreviating. I consider his "full" codename to be Lieutenant Falcon. But that's a lot longer to type and harder to spell. Same for General Hawk. let's put all of Hawks codenames together! General Clayton "Tomohawk GI Joe Hawk" Abernathy.... how's that for long to type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion21 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Define "better", the Storm Shadow/Firefly comic was just a serious of witty comebacks that felt like they belonged in an issue of Cable and Deadpool... and the Shipwreck/Leatherneck comic was totally pointless (havn't picked up Duke/Redstar yet)... I prefer the "inbetween the pages of the marvel comics" comics that actually add something new (granted the Firefly/Storm Shadow did but only a few panels of import)... Though in terms of artwork these ones blow the other exclusive comics away. The Duke/Redstar comic had a semi-ok plot, cheesy, and stereotypical ... but better than the others Hama has written. And I didn't mind the other two either, although I agree that the Storm Shadow/Firefly comic was like an issue of Cable and Deadpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_breetai Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 So I finally got caught up on my Devils Due stuff... M&A II, All the Transformer crossovers (I really dig that continuity) and of course I picked up America's elite where I left off... from issue 12... wow I shouldn't have left off there everything from 13 to 30 (last issue I read, I will pick up the last 6 issues tomorrow... is 36 out yet?) was pure gold. It's not just some of the best GI joe writing ever, it's some of the best comic wirting I've ever read. wow, double wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cschell Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I finally received my Doc earlier this week. Only had to wait 11 weeks from the time i sent the order form in until the time Hasbro finally got it to me. I had actually given up on ever receiving it. I wonder what the typical turn around time is for these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Thanks for the comic pack pics. Just kinda bums me that the standard IG's are packed with a repainted Destro. I'm sure it ain't gonna stop folks from troop-building though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southpaw Samurai Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I finally received my Doc earlier this week. Only had to wait 11 weeks from the time i sent the order form in until the time Hasbro finally got it to me. I had actually given up on ever receiving it. I wonder what the typical turn around time is for these things. Well, my experience isn't the best example because they both went in before the actual start of shipping, but my original Doc order from at the end of January shipped at the end of April (among the first batch) and my second (done as a backup) was put in at the beginning of April and arrived mid-June. If nothing else, it gives you an idea of the backlog they had from before the first shipping date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 That back log in no excuse. I think it said 6 to 8 weeks. If Hasbro can't deliver what they claim they should stop offering promotional offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion21 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I sent my order in mid-April and still haven't rescued Doc yet .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uxi Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Just haven't been interested in much since I got my Snake Eyes v3. If they do some real Army Builders, I'll be down. Especially some Iron Grenadiers to go with my IG Destro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Focker Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Just haven't been interested in much since I got my Snake Eyes v3. If they do some real Army Builders, I'll be down. Especially some Iron Grenadiers to go with my IG Destro. I got good news and bad news for you/ There will be some IG. Bad new is that they come in a comic pack with a variant colored IG Destro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermillion21 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 FYI: lots of cool 25th Anniversary Cobra army builder packs coming: news from JoeCon dealer room: - 5 pack Cobra desert assault set - 5 pack Cobra arctic set - techo viper - night viper - 5 pack firefly vs. greenshirts set - 5 pack crimson guard set - 3 pack IG destro with IG senior command - 3 pack with cutter, yellow torpedo?, some other guy? - 3 pack Wild Bill & 2 other guys?? Checkout pics gallery at Hisstank here: http://hisstank.com/gallery/Hasbro-Dealer-Room?page=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Oooooh, Techno-Viper: http://hisstank.com/gallery/albums/Hasbro-...r_Room_0090.jpg Plus Paraviper design sketch: http://hisstank.com/gallery/albums/Hasbro-...r_Room_0071.jpg I'm not sure about the Night-Viper, awfully big helmet. Is there a name for the "Cobra truck"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mog Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Thanks for the link, Vermillion21. I'm guessing Wild Bill's crew is Ace (in pilot get-up) and Grand Slam. And I'm guessing that the dude with Torpedo (seriously, yellow?! ) and Cutter is Deep Six. Of course, these are just educated guesses on my part. Techno-Viper looks interesting. But Hasbro, please. Can you guys stay clear away from the science-fictiony/Cobra-La stuff for a little while longer? I know a bunch of us would rather have Airborne, Quick Kick, Dusty, Low Light, Mutt & Junkyard, Covergirl, Crazylegs, Ripcord, Eels, Blowtorch (porkchop sandwiches!!), Monkeywrench, Zarana, Strato-Vipers, Steeler (w/VISOR), Zap, Short Fuze, Leatherneck, Wet Suit, Alpine, Kwinn, Outback, Tunnel Rat, Sgt. Slaughter, and a whole host of others BEFORE we see some of these other custom figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 (edited) Guys most of the stuff on page 3 of the 1st set of Hasbro booth images from HissTank like the Night Viper and Cobra-la people aside the Nemesis Immortal are customs. The repainted indy truck is a custom too, as is the detailed Buzz Boar. Edited June 27, 2008 by Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Bad new is that they come in a comic pack with a variant colored IG Destro. And in a 3 pack with another repainted IG Destro. - 5 pack Cobra desert assault set - 5 pack Cobra arctic set They are actually 7 packs Quick Kick/v2 Snake Eyes Arise Serpentor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 FYI: lots of cool 25th Anniversary Cobra army builder packs coming: news from JoeCon dealer room: - 5 pack Cobra desert assault set - 5 pack Cobra arctic set - techo viper - night viper - 5 pack firefly vs. greenshirts set - 5 pack crimson guard set - 3 pack IG destro with IG senior command - 3 pack with cutter, yellow torpedo?, some other guy? - 3 pack Wild Bill & 2 other guys?? Checkout pics gallery at Hisstank here: http://hisstank.com/gallery/Hasbro-Dealer-Room?page=1 Ok, why Purple for what looks like to be the IG Officer? Yuck. Lemme guess, Gold goggles of the Snow Serpent is an officer? Looks like Star Duster and a new ?Ace? with Wild Bill. Also looks like deep Six with Cutter and ?Torpedo?. We got another Flint in desert color? They have Sci-Fi and Big Boa too. Golobulus and the Cobra La soldiers? Man, Movie was bad enough and now we get the 25th toys? Army builder pack looks cool except for the desert pack set. Who is this Predacon and Black Banshee? Also we getting the Indiana Jones WW2 2 1/2 ton truck now painted with Cobra markings? And Steeler without his binoculars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 (edited) Panel Images They have Sci-Fi and Big Boa too. Golobulus and the Cobra La soldiers? Man, Movie was bad enough and now we get the 25th toys? Army builder pack looks cool except for the desert pack set. Who is this Predacon and Black Banshee? Also we getting the Indiana Jones WW2 2 1/2 ton truck now painted with Cobra markings? And Steeler without his binoculars? Customs Also, I doubt the Terrordome or Flagg will ever come out again. It wasn't likely a few years ago, I doubt will happen now or anytime soon. Edited June 27, 2008 by Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Panel Images Customs Also, I doubt the Terrordome or Flagg will ever come out again. It wasn't likely a few years ago, I doubt will happen now or anytime soon. According to HISSTANK: Larger vehicles will be shown tomorrow as well, possibly the rumored Rattler. The panel mentioned no promises on the Flagg, Terrordrome, or the Defiant, but if they can get someone to pick them up, they do want to do them. Still a small possibility... but yeah very unlikely, esp. seeing as how the BMF (Big Millinieum Falcon) is already retailing for $150+, A Flagg would probably ring up in the neighborhood of $300, the Terrordrome and the Defiant maybe $200+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream Man Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 i would pay virtually anything for a Flagg It is the toy I have wanted my whole life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I'd love to have the Defiant but I would settle for the Crusader Shuttle, that thing was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Night Raven. Period. Would rather have that than ALL OTHER VEHICLES COMBINED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_breetai Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Wraith is cool! http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/default.cfm?pa...FEF25A15A351B34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Way too much news to summarize, just go to HISStank.com now. Read this especially: http://www.hisstank.com/gi-joe-news/a-real...holy-crap-7427/ Anyways---Rattler confirmed, Target exclusive. Comes with Wild Weasel--who looks EXACTLY the same as the one already released. Means I wasted every penny I spent on the comic 2-pack. http://hisstank.com/gallery/Joecon-2008-Sa...rday_2008_00006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) Anyways---Rattler confirmed, Target exclusive. Comes with Wild Weasel--who looks EXACTLY the same as the one already released. Means I wasted every penny I spent on the comic 2-pack. Now I am wondering how in the hell Hasbro figured out a way to shove Wild Weasel into the cockpit, must have remolded the entire interior. Edited June 28, 2008 by Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chowyunskinny Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 As far as small vehicles go, I hope they get around to reissuing the Polar Battle Bear, Chameleon Swamp Skier, Sky Hawk and Ferret. I've sifted through all the info at Hisstank and YoJoe and didn't see any mention of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 As far as small vehicles go, I hope they get around to reissuing the Polar Battle Bear, Chameleon Swamp Skier, Sky Hawk and Ferret. I've sifted through all the info at Hisstank and YoJoe and didn't see any mention of these. I think the Skyhawk was announced with Lift Ticket. Also, the new Skystriker in the cartoon has been said to be a YF-23. Pray we get a toy that is not a remold of the tiny Storm Eagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Porkchop Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Seems odd that it would be a YF-23, since it never made it past the prototype. I know the Joes always got experimental/high-tech stuff, but the F/A-22 would make more sense to me. But please no http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/04/thunderwingjet/ at the very least come up with a new mold. I'm still holding out hope for the Skystriker to get re-issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyryder Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 I could see the Joes using a modified version of the 23. The only place it was beat by the 22, was in low speed handling. Fix that one flaw, and I could easily see the Joes fielding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 (edited) Seems odd that it would be a YF-23, since it never made it past the prototype. I know the Joes always got experimental/high-tech stuff, but the F/A-22 would make more sense to me. But please no http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/04/thunderwingjet/ at the very least come up with a new mold. I'm still holding out hope for the Skystriker to get re-issued. Its confirmed by Hasbro that the original Skystriker tooling it no longer available. The joes did have the YF-23 once, as the Storm Eagle but it was too small. Proportion wise, it was much better than the Thunderwing though. The 23 along with other Northrop planes is known as one of the "best ones they never made". Its one hell of a Skystriker update, as the company that made the 23 merged with Grumman years ago. IF we do get a skystriker I think it will be the new 23....if its a classic one in addition to that, its got to be a new mold, since the old tooling isn't available. I don't want one over the other, I want both. Keep the 23 sleek and proportionate and don't give it any gimmicks that will bloat it like the thunderwing. Edited June 30, 2008 by Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hingtgen Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 I read YF-22 somewhere. Who's right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Densetsu Kai 7.0 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 I read YF-22 somewhere. Who's right? I'm leaning on YF-23, I read YF-22 at first but it was at a site that rushed to get their reports in quickly and completely overlooked grammatical errors. The guy that told me it was the 23 definitely knew the difference between the 2 planes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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