Lonely Soldier Boy Posted August 5, 2008 Posted August 5, 2008 Obviously Yamato's aim at the collectors with a taste for large toys. I just hope they include a nice pilot figure with it. I think a pilot figure with limited poseability is not much to ask at that scale, it'd be something new for Yamato tho'. Quote
dizman Posted August 5, 2008 Posted August 5, 2008 Wave's ingram isnt bad.... but it isnt entirely great either. Yamato's version looks great but its just way too big. I'll stick with my CM ingram for now. Quote
blowsperior Posted August 5, 2008 Posted August 5, 2008 (edited) Another update (2008/07/17) from Yamato 1/24: http://www.yamato-toys.com/dev/cont_055/index.html Edited August 5, 2008 by blowsperior Quote
IXTL Posted August 6, 2008 Posted August 6, 2008 Official images of WaveCorp's WHAM series Ingram 1. http://www.toysdaily.com/discuz/thread-71298-1-1.html Quote
drifand Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 Some things about the Wave Ingram just don't feel right... the molded rubber shrouds look too wrinkled; the shoulders look undersized; the head isn't 'handsome' at any angle... in fact, I haven't seen a single pic where the head isn't always pointed at the ground. Why so sad, Wave? The Yamato has a much nicer sculpt, especially for the head. I can overlook the slightly squashed proportions because of the size... the sheer presence makes up for it. That, plus the fan-pleasing use of cloth shrouds, pioneered by the CM's edition. Quote
Shaggydog Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 I almost never agree with drifand (I think our tastes are quite different), but I agree completely on this. I can't see any good reason that I should buy the Wave toy - not really good looking or innovative or anything. The Yamato, on the other hand, impresses me more every time I see it. BTW, the Wave is now up for preorder on HLJ, for those who disagree with me. Quote
yellowlightman Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 It's really looking like the Yamato is the one to get. I love the size, I just wish I wasn't so apathetic to the AV-98 Ingram design. Despite being a huge fan of the series and many of the designs therein, the Ingram (and Griffon) design is just so... meh. Quote
IXTL Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 (edited) More Pics of Yamato Ingram 1. http://www.yamato-toys.com/dev/cont_058/index.html Revolver cannon can be loaded. Riot stick actually retracts and extends. Shield attaches using the actual screws on the shield. More pics in the link. Edited August 8, 2008 by IXTL Quote
SuperHobo Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Awesome find. I'm really getting turned onto Yamato's Ingram. The only thing disturbing me is how much this going to cost. Quote
Ignacio Ocamica Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 What a great year for mecha collectors!!! I'm not a great fan of the Ingram but the level of detail is incredible. It entered my to buy list. Definitely waiting for this. Thanks for the link, awesome pics Quote
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Dude! That trigger works! That's insane! I wonder why we haven't seen the pilot yet. Maybe Yamato plans on selling it separately? I hope it's not a chunk of painted PVC, because after all the effort they've put in the gun, I'd be really pissed. Quote
renkenjutsu Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 The Wave one looks so..... fat >.< *sigh* Quote
type j9 Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 the head of the wave 's labor doesn't look very well. the YAMATO look's more agressive , and the price aswell about 18000 to 20000 yen, i think:angry: Quote
Dante74 Posted August 8, 2008 Posted August 8, 2008 Maybe I'm just being stupid, but shouldn't there be more black on the Yamato instead of all the grey? Or is that because it's a prototype. Quote
todd77 Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 Hi, first time poster here. Maybe I'm just being stupid, but shouldn't there be more black on the Yamato instead of all the grey? Or is that because it's a prototype. I think it should be a prototype. According to Yamato's official Engrish site, the "body frame" is supposed to be die-cast. Not sure if they're referring to the gray-colored parts on the chest or the toy's inner frame. Interesting that the stun stick is called the "Billy Club" Quote
Fly4victory Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 1/72 Hannibal is up for pre-order at HLJ. http://www.hlj.com/product/KBYKP-51 Quote
SuperHobo Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 Hi, first time poster here. I think it should be a prototype. According to Yamato's official Engrish site, the "body frame" is supposed to be die-cast. Not sure if they're referring to the gray-colored parts on the chest or the toy's inner frame. Interesting that the stun stick is called the "Billy Club" Interesting as the way Yamato describes it there will be some LED lights for the sirens which like the CMs sounds like nice touch. Is the diecast the skeleton inside the cloth or is on the outside? This has gotten me even more excited for this product. Quote
todd77 Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 Interesting as the way Yamato describes it there will be some LED lights for the sirens which like the CMs sounds like nice touch. Is the diecast the skeleton inside the cloth or is on the outside? This has gotten me even more excited for this product. Yeah, not too sure if Yamato's referring to the inner skeleton or outer armor with regard to die-cast content though I don't mind if it were both Having flashing Pat-lamps would be awesome though I hope they could keep the connecting wires more discreetly than CM's. Seems like they are going for a magnet for the hands as well instead of a peg to hold the accessories. The large size really affords Yamato a lot of leeway to go all out with these lavish features. Just hope it doesn't fall apart like some of their first-issue transforming Macross endeavors ( ) though at the moment, I'm really stoked for this. Quote
SuperHobo Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 Yeah, not too sure if Yamato's referring to the inner skeleton or outer armor with regard to die-cast content though I don't mind if it were both Having flashing Pat-lamps would be awesome though I hope they could keep the connecting wires more discreetly than CM's. Seems like they are going for a magnet for the hands as well instead of a peg to hold the accessories. The large size really affords Yamato a lot of leeway to go all out with these lavish features. Just hope it doesn't fall apart like some of their first-issue transforming Macross endeavors ( ) though at the moment, I'm really stoked for this. Magnet instead of peg hands for the gun? Awesome. Where is the pre-order? Quote
the white drew carey Posted August 9, 2008 Posted August 9, 2008 Magnet instead of peg hands for the gun? Awesome. Where is the pre-order? I am really not liking the Yamato Ingram. It just looks to fat/squat/rotund... Quote
IXTL Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 I am really not liking the Yamato Ingram. It just looks to fat/squat/rotund... Same here. The huge size and the squat proportions are a turn off even though the sculpting and features are awesome. Quote
todd77 Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 Same here. The huge size and the squat proportions are a turn off even though the sculpting and features are awesome. Yeah, that's my only reservation with Yamato's Ingram. You can tell that the legs are a little too short / body too large when the right hand doesn't extend as far as it should, IMO, in order to grab the gun. Quote
yellowlightman Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 I'm having a hard time seeing the problems with the proportions. Checking it against the lineart from the movie, the only problems I see the the chest is a little too snub nosed and should be more rounded and the legs could be just a little bit longer. But otherwise it looks pretty spot on. I'm guessing you guys are forgetting the Ingram is kind of a squat looking design... Quote
Noyhauser Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 I'm having a hard time seeing the problems with the proportions. Checking it against the lineart from the movie, the only problems I see the the chest is a little too snub nosed and should be more rounded and the legs could be just a little bit longer. But otherwise it looks pretty spot on. I'm guessing you guys are forgetting the Ingram is kind of a squat looking design... Have to agree with you there, especially when you put it around some of its predecessors. Quote
the white drew carey Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 I'm having a hard time seeing the problems with the proportions. Checking it against the lineart from the movie, the only problems I see the the chest is a little too snub nosed and should be more rounded and the legs could be just a little bit longer. But otherwise it looks pretty spot on. I'm guessing you guys are forgetting the Ingram is kind of a squat looking design... The lineart from the movie is what I'm comparing it against, and it doesn't look very spot on to me. Quote
Scream Man Posted August 10, 2008 Posted August 10, 2008 if the legs were a tiny bit longer it would be perfect. But its close enough and so damn cool that I dont care. Quote
IXTL Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 CM's M.A.S. (Mecha Action Series) Brocken PVC and ABS construction. From the same series as Peacemaker. Thanks to Cybergundam. Quote
QuinJester Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 It's a pity the Brocken isn't in the brave line like the Ingrams or Griffon. Hopefully CM's have stepped up the QC from the Peacemaker though, otherwise I'll have to pass Quote
drifand Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Oh yes! Brocken will be mine Despite all the problems with the AV-0 (most significantly, the easily dislodged joints), they look great on the shelf and I believe the Brocken will be a beautiful addition, especially with the trademark cloth shrouds. I really wonder how long the WHAM labors can last before WAVE bows to pressure and comes up with a better solution than the restrictive PVC shrouds. Best if they act on the Helldiver before it's released. The WHAM Ingram is already DOA. Quote
olivers Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Knew I saw something I meant to post: http://www.dannychoo.com/adp/eng/1547/Akihabara.html Looks like 2 versions can be made, a normal and WW2 version. Prefer the normal version. Glad they are doing a removable head. Quote
Lonely Soldier Boy Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 (edited) The Brocken is my fave. And this one comes with loads of extras, unlike the Revo one. I don't own any CM's Patlabor toys, so how tall are this one expected to be? Edit: This is a toy, right? Edited August 26, 2008 by Lonely Soldier Boy Quote
IXTL Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 The Brocken is my fave. And this one comes with loads of extras, unlike the Revo one. I don't own any CM's Patlabor toys, so how tall are this one expected to be? 17cm. Quote
drifand Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 The Brocken is my fave. And this one comes with loads of extras, unlike the Revo one. I don't own any CM's Patlabor toys, so how tall are this one expected to be? Edit: This is a toy, right? It's safer to think of it as an (expensive) completed poseable model. The joints are detented (clickity), but can be easily pulled off from the slots in the various limbs. It CAN be frustrating trying to put them back under the cloth covers. We can all wish for a more durable/better-built solution from CM's, but I'll take this over WAVE's rubber/PVC covered joints. Also, while the prototype pics of the previous AV-0 release looked good, the actual product had a slightly iffy sculpt (some details were not crisp), and the paint applications were a bit sloppy, although the tampo-markings were perfectly fine. Overall, I'd have to say that CM's 1/35-ish VOTOMS figures seem to have better QC and finishing than the Mecha Action AV-0. Again, the less than perfect level of finishing is something I'm willing to live with just to have a toy of a mecha I really like. (see the picture links in my sig.) Quote
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